What do Nazi and Confederate Flags have to do with ending the lockdown?

[BattleofHodow]

Off the top of my head, a Nazi would be a member of a group that formed before the death of Hitler, while a Neo Nazi would be a member of a group that formed after the death of Hitler. There are still a few Nazis getting caught from time to time, mostly very old men.

There are even some Nazis that are younger. Sebastian Gorka was trump's deputy assistant. He was also a member of Vitezi Rend a WWII era Hungarian Nazi group. That makes him technically a Nazi, not a Neo-Nazi. He lied about his membership to get US Citizenship, because the US bans any members of this group from getting citizenship. He then openly wore a pin proclaiming his membership within the trump white house.

Night is going to argue that Gorka only joined the Nazi Party in Hungary because he comes from a long line of Nazis who supported the destruction of America... But is that really a defense? Gorka needs to be denaturalized and deported, NOW!!!

Why just "Gorka"
What about another Hungarian born person, the Globalist Jew George Soros, why does he get to stay here?

Gorka certainly doesn't have the power Soros does.

 

[Walt]

Neither the family in Ruby Ridge nor the Branch Davidians were extremists. All of them were murdered by federal agents acting under Janet Reno, an appointee of Bill Clinton.

Ruby Ridge happened before Clinton was elected. Clinton was the Governor of Arkansas, and Reno was the Attorney General of Florida. Neither had any power over federal agents acting in Idaho. Whatever happened it happened while papa Bush was President, and William Barr was Attorney General....

WAIT A SECOND!!! William Barr, I know that name. Isn't that the current Attorney General under trump?

Yes, the Attorney General that was in charge of the attack at Ruby Ridge and planned the attack on the Branch Davidian is the current Attorney General under trump. If he ordered murder, as you claim, why would trump appoint him as Attorney General?

Both situations started with the supposed non-extremists murdering law enforcement agents, and escalated into them taking their own families hostage. Killing law enforcement agents seems very extreme to me, and using your own children as human shields is downright crazy.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Diminishing Nazism as merely a political belief lends Nazism legitimacy it doesn't otherwise have.

It is not a "political belief", it is a genocidal cult.

Genocide is not a "political belief".

I don't support killing anyone for beliefs, not Nazi supporters, not Soviet supporters, not Communist Chinese supporters, not British Empire Imperialist supporters, etc. etc.

 

[BattleofHodow]

I don't understand why you don't think all Nazis should be killed.

The Neocons are the most deadly in the modern era.

200,000 + killed by famine the Blockade in Yemen.

500,0000 + killed in the Syria Civil War.

Millions killed between the Wars in Iraq, Afghanistan & Libya.

How are the Neo-Nazis the main deadly problem?

Neocons are the problem, Neo-Nazis are just some powerless group in comparison.

 

[Walt]

He'd still have had more than enough influence to prevent the amendment from passing.

I really agree with many things that StoneByStone says, but he is technically wrong here. Lincoln definitely supported the ideas in the 14th Amendment before he died, but he died before it was technically proposed, so had no power to influence the amendment.

Or no earthly power. I will not debate whether he was guiding it from heaven, or some such thing. He was the former President, and a dead former President, so had no earthly powers.

What Lincoln did do while he was alive was speak out for citizenship and equal rights for all blacks, which was the basis of the 14th Amendment. Booth saw Lincoln say the most definitive support for this in person, and it was the immediate trigger of Booth going through with his plan to kill Lincoln.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Diminishing Nazism as merely a political belief lends Nazism legitimacy it doesn't otherwise have.

It is not a "political belief", it is a genocidal cult.

Genocide is not a "political belief".

Zionism is a genocidal political belief too.

About 100,000 Arabs have been killed by Israel since WW2.

Why should they get a free pass?

 

[StoneByStone]

I really agree with many things that StoneByStone says, but he is technically wrong here. Lincoln definitely supported the ideas in the 14th Amendment before he died, but he died before it was technically proposed, so had no power to influence the amendment.

We were talking about what led up to the Civil War.

Of course, after Lincoln died, he had a difficult time continuing his political ambitions.

 

[LV426]

Because it's cuckoo, Neo Nazis killed a few dozen Jews, or Blacks.

Meanwhile, the USA government has killed millions since WW2.

Why does George W. Bush get a pass?

Because he killed for the Zionists?

Hey, I think Bush should be sent to The Hague for War Crimes, and I thought it was the worst mistake in the world for Pelosi not to impeach over the Iraq War when the Dems retook the House after the 2006 election.

The FBI says Nazis are "a national threat".

What do we do to national threats?

 

[LV426]

The real Nazis were a Global threat, Neo-Nazis aren't.

Nazis are a "national threat", per the FBI.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Hey, I think Bush should be sent to The Hague for War Crimes, and I thought it was the worst mistake in the world for Pelosi not to impeach over the Iraq War when the Dems retook the House after the 2006 election.

The FBI says Nazis are "a national threat".

What do we do to national threats?

Killing someone for bad actions like massacring people is not terrorism.

Killing someone for just their beliefs is terrorism.

 

[LV426]

Zionism is a genocidal political belief too.

About 100,000 Arabs have been killed by Israel since WW2.

Why should they get a free pass?

Hey, I think Israel should withdraw from the occupied territories and allow the Palestinians self-determination.

 

[LV426]

Killing someone for bad actions like massacring people is not terrorism.

And Nazis have massacred people, and the FBI says they are "a national threat".

What do we do to national threats?

Killing someone for beliefs is terrorism.

Nazism isn't merely a belief, it's a genocidal cult. Reducing Nazism to a belief lends it legitimacy.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Nazis are a "national threat", per the FBI.

A lot of the killers of Jews in this country have also been Black too.

Are these Blacks, Neo-Nazis too?

Like in the Crown Heights Riots, Monsey attacker, the Jersey City shooting, etc.

 

[Walt]

There was no outbreak related to the Trump rally there was a mass outbreak and mass death in NYC.

You cannot prove that claim. We have no contact tracing, so we have no idea how Covid-19 spread in the first few months. We still do not know for sure. We probably never will know.

Pelosi is from San Fransisco, not NYC. Her Chinatown is in San Fransisco. San Fransisco is a major hub of Pacific travel, so would be expected to have a huge number of Covid-19 cases. It has a surprisingly low number, compared to what would be expected. They got serious about having a lockdown early, and that has done them well.

It's not racist to believe Chinese nationals would disproportionately visit their families in Chinatown compared to other locales. Not to mention millions of Chinese Americans had traveled to and from China to visit family in January for the Chinese lunar new year.

And yet it did not happen, so why not? San Fransisco's Chinatown is apparently enough removed from China that families are not visiting each other. You might visit your brother, but will you visit your 23rd cousin?

Under Trump we developed, got approval for, mass produced, and mass distributed tests in record time.

Now that is a lie. Obama did a million tests in the first month. trump did 147 tests in the first month. The only record there is a record big failure.

 

[BattleofHodow]

And Nazis have massacred people, and the FBI says they are "a national threat".

What do we do to national threats?




Nazism isn't merely a belief, it's a genocidal cult. Reducing Nazism to a belief lends it legitimacy.

The 1st Amendment protects freedom of speech.

Why should people be killed for their beliefs, exactly?

That's definitely Terrorism.

 

[Walt]

The Nazis did have the purest, most industrial genocide.

That's a good thing?

Definitely not. Most genocides are a form of neglect or at worst semi-targeted. The Nazis brought a level of industrial organization to genocide never before, and never again seen.

 

[LV426]

The 1st Amendment protects freedom of speech.

Genocide isn't speech. It's a call to action.

Why should people be killed for their beliefs, exactly?

Nazism isn't a belief, and neither is genocide. Nazism is a genocidal cult that the FBI says is "a national threat".

Why do you want to elevate Nazism to a belief? Doing so only lends it legitimacy. Do you think Nazism is a legitimate belief?

 

[BattleofHodow]

Genocide isn't speech. It's a call to action.




Nazism isn't a belief, and neither is genocide. Nazism is a genocidal cult that the FBI says is "a national threat".

Why do you want to elevate Nazism to a belief? Doing so only lends it legitimacy. Do you think Nazism is a legitimate belief?

I don't care what Neo-Nazis, Neo-Bolsheviks, etc. etc. do, so long as they don't bother people.

 

[LV426]

I don't care what Neo-Nazis, Neo-Bolsheviks, etc. etc. do, so long as they don't bother people.

But the entire point of Nazis is to kill other people.

So you should care. If you don't, it means you don't really care about anyone else and are just posturing on a message board.

 

[Irish]

Why should we believe your lies?

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WHat lies?