What do Nazi and Confederate Flags have to do with ending the lockdown?

Walt said:
We may well have reached "a" plateau, but how would we know if we reached "the" plateau. As pandemics expand out from the hubs they tend to have a second rise. Also there are often second waves.

I do not see a logical reason for "the" plateau to be happening now.
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I don't care what you see the fact remains that all reporting says we have flattened the curve.
 
Legion said:
Like that one of "Hillary with a Confederate flag in her office, back when it was fashionable"?
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It was faked. The original photo did not contain a Confederate Flag. Hillary Clinton was from Illinois and was going to college in Massachusetts. She would not have been connected to the Confederate Flag.

Even D'Souza admitted he was wrong by saying, "Disregard the photoshopped Confederate flag in the background of the Hillary photo and simply focus on those glasses and hairdo." Neither would have been considered weird at the time.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-background-confederacy/
 
Walt said:
It is a common German saying. It means that talking to Nazis as if they are reasonable is the same as being a Nazi. It means trying to use reason to change a Nazis views just helps normalize Nazism.

Here is another German saying, "everything has an end, except for sausages, they have two ends."
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How many Neo-Nazi members are in the USA?

Something in the few thousands?

Certainly not very worrysome.
 
Flash said:
Complete BS. Police cannot shoot people who may or may not be a member of a group seen as a national threat. Police can only shoot if they are in immediate danger of being harmed.
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I almost completely agree with Flash. The police should not shoot people who are members of a Nazi group, or any other terrorist supporting group. For the most part, I would even say it is legal to be a Nazi, as long as they do not directly support the terrorism. Even if they directly support, or even are a terrorists, the police should try to arrest them, not kill them without a trial. Only when there are no other reasonable options should killing terrorists happen. Letting the terrorists blow up a school bus is not a reasonable option.

Now the US Army is a completely other matter. If there is an actual war, they can, and will kill anyone in an enemy uniform who is not obviously and immediately surrendering. If the US Army came across some Confederates soldiers during the Civil War, they would be killed if they did not surrender quickly. If the Alt Right actually starts the war they say they want to, it will be legally acceptable to kill every idiot one of them in an enemy uniform.

Something for the Alt Right to think about before taking up arms against the US Government.
 
Into the Night said:
They are not threatening anyone. They are not Nazis.
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Showing weapons is an implicit threat. You can no more armed protest than you can armed pan handle.

If you ask me for a dollar, that is pan handling (begging). If you point a gun at me, and ask me for a dollar, that is armed robbery. I do not have to withhold the dollar, and get shot to prove it is a threat. The same is true with protesting. If you demand the government changes its policy, while unarmed, you are protesting. If you demand the government changes its policy, while pointing a gun, that is armed insurrection. In short, taking up arms against the US Government does not require you to actually shoot those arms, just take them up.

Are they Nazis or Neo-Nazis or just people who enjoy wearing swastikas to look like Nazis... I guess there is a difference, but all are scumbags, so I do not bother worrying about it much.
 
Walt said:
First and foremost, STOCKPILES!!! Lots and lots of "wasteful" government stockpiles of medical equipment. This is not the "big one" of pandemics, so whatever we would have needed for this one times ten or one hundred. Times one thousand would be silly, but you get the point.

Second, more integration with the world community. We used to have a US CDC office literally in the Chinese CDC. American epidemiologists used to travel with the Chinese epidemiologists. We do not know where the next pandemic will come from, so we should have similar offices in Africa, Central Asia, Southern Asia, and of course China.

Third, enough infrastructure to make all types of vaccines and all types of medicines. This is basically an extension of the first point, stockpiles. It looks wasteful, until it is not wasteful. We can use it to make vaccines and other low cost medicines, but will lose money on it... Until it saves the USA. Remember we also lose money on the military.

And fourth, planning... This is real. Evolution is real. We need to plan for it.
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China refused to allow the CDC in, globalism caused this pandemic, hell the WHO aided the CCP in their cover up for months.
 
Walt said:
Showing weapons is an implicit threat. You can no more armed protest than you can armed pan handle.
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Bullshit, there is no threat implied by one exercising their inalienable right of self defense to safeguard their inalienable rights of freedom of assembly and speech.
 
FreeSpeech said:
Bullshit, there is no threat implied by one exercising their inalienable right of self defense to safeguard their inalienable rights of freedom of assembly and speech.
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If you brandish a weapon at me, I am fully justified to kill you thanks to Stand Your Ground because you have made yourself a threat by brandishing your weapon. So you could march with your gun, and I could shoot you dead and get off totally scot free.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
How many Neo-Nazi members are in the USA?

Something in the few thousands?

Certainly not very worrysome.
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Except that those few thousands routinely act on their fascism and murder people, like what happened in Pittsburgh, El Paso, and Charleston.

All Nazis should be killed. Period.
 
LV426 said:
Except that those few thousands routinely act on their fascism and murder people, like what happened in Pittsburgh, El Paso, and Charleston.

All Nazis should be killed. Period.
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Murdering people because of their political beliefs, isn't anti-Terrorism, it is Terrorism.
 
Into the Night said:
There are no Nazis. The Nazi party was in Germany, and was destroyed during WW2.
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Off the top of my head, a Nazi would be a member of a group that formed before the death of Hitler, while a Neo Nazi would be a member of a group that formed after the death of Hitler. There are still a few Nazis getting caught from time to time, mostly very old men.

There are even some Nazis that are younger. Sebastian Gorka was trump's deputy assistant. He was also a member of Vitezi Rend a WWII era Hungarian Nazi group. That makes him technically a Nazi, not a Neo-Nazi. He lied about his membership to get US Citizenship, because the US bans any members of this group from getting citizenship. He then openly wore a pin proclaiming his membership within the trump white house.

Night is going to argue that Gorka only joined the Nazi Party in Hungary because he comes from a long line of Nazis who supported the destruction of America... But is that really a defense? Gorka needs to be denaturalized and deported, NOW!!!
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Murdering people because of their political beliefs, isn't anti-Terrorism, it is Terrorism.
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Diminishing Nazism as merely a political belief lends Nazism legitimacy it doesn't otherwise have.

It is not a "political belief", it is a genocidal cult.

Genocide is not a "political belief".
 
LV426 said:
I don't understand why you don't think all Nazis should be killed.
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Because it's cuckoo, Neo Nazis killed a few dozen Jews, or Blacks.

Meanwhile, the USA government has killed millions since WW2.

Why does George W. Bush get a pass?

Because he killed for the Zionists?
 
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