At Least 1 Dead in Shooting at Texas Church

[Saudade]

Trained well qualified security guard with a hand gun. GOOD.

Lunatic with an AR. BAD.

How hard is this concept for Republicans?

What about a security guard with an AR? The feds use them.

 

[Saudade]

Well, I guess I can understand needing to protect your home from hillbillies high on meth, or opioid-addicted trash people.

But honestly, a strong security system, kick-guards on your doors, and strong locks are all you need to prevent break-ins. Most break-ins occur when no one is home...so unless you're a hermit who stays in your house 24/7 and never leaves, the chance of your weapon deterring a robbery or break in is pretty low...In fact, having your gun in your home just gives thieves something else to steal. 200,000 guns are stolen from homes, cars, and businesses just like that. I don't understand the logic of having another thing someone can steal from your house, then use to harm someone or sell it to someone who will.

People buy guns to protect their homes and cars from criminals armed with guns they stole from homes and cars.

And while you might say that no one has ever stolen a gun from you, I would say that no one has stolen a gun from you yet. No one is infallible. People make mistakes, particularly "responsible gun owners" who made the first mistake of bringing the gun into their home for it to be stolen.

Faulty logic again. I could offer you an equivalent platitude that you shouldn't have to lock your doors if you live in a safe neighborhood. The odds of a break in are very low for many areas.

But that brings us to the simple fact that people typically create defenses for situations that are unlikely. Most of us never have our homes broken into, but we still lock our doors. Most of us never have a housefire, but we still have fire extinguishers.

Ironically, the second part of your post is the same logic for why people have guns. Maybe you've never had an armed break in while you were at home "yet."

 

[Saudade]

I've used both and I find the gun best suits lazy people who want to project strength to mask their weakness.

A crossbow is something you need actual strength to use.

Are you Joe Rogan? That guy has a fetish for crossbows.

 

[Saudade]

The real reason you want guns is because you want to kill people.

The real reason you want a crossbow is because you want to kill people.

See, I can do that too.

 

[Saudade]

I am happy to have a trained, responsible person with a handgun around, but remember the good guy with the gun that was shot dead by the police after killing the lunatic who had the AR?

Also take note how good it was that the guy who attacked the Jewish people in New York was unable to get his hands on an AR.

What about how it would have been better if the Jewish people had guns to defend themselves from the attacker?

 

[Saudade]

Irony of all this is that one's odds of being murdered in a break in is even greater than dying from slipping in your bathtub, and the mere probability of being a victim of gun violence increases considerably by just having a gun in the house

http://www.lifeinsurancequotes.org/additional-resources/deadly-statistics/
https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-mortality-risk

The self defense "argument" supposedly justifying guns is inane, just the fact that we now have more guns out there in circulation than any other developed nation and yet still have the highest gun violence statistics of developed nations proves it is bogus, more guns haven't made anyone safer

Correlation doesn't equal causation. Plenty of nations with far fewer guns than us have higher gun homicide rates. Mexico is just one of many examples.

We do have a higher gun death rate than most other countries, but 60% are suicides.

 

[Saudade]

Well I do agree it is capitalism on steroids, the gun manufactures has a large segment of the country convinced we are still living in the last half of the 19th Century and the "intellectual" rationale they've sold to go along with the fear mongering is that it is all about Constitutional rights

The fearmongering is coming from your side. It's a requirement for any side that uses the state to seize property or restrict people's rights.

 

[Saudade]

Or some White Nationalist looking mother fucker walking into a Mosque, Synagogue, or Black Baptist Church.

Or a black person in NY or NJ walking into a Jewish store or synagogue while wielding a knife.

 

[Saudade]

Is the answer to drug problems- More Drugs! NO!

The answer isn't more of a War on Drugs. Decriminalization would be best.

Neither is the answer to gun problems- More Guns!

The answer also isn't more gun laws. Most problems regarding guns in a legal sense require improving enforcement. You can pass all the gun laws you want, but criminal background checks aren't very effective if many state governments don't reliably report crimes to the FBI. We've seen the military lack in this as well.

 

[Saudade]

If Jesus had to worry about a sword wielding crazy attacking the church, would he

a. preach banning of swords
b. preach arming of Christians
c. support the pagan Roman legions standing guard at all times
d other


He was a fucking learned hippie Jewish pacifist and you are armed to the hilt during your max 1 hr slated worship of him before the Cowboys game in your "Christian" churches. LMFAO

You worship Abbie freaking Hoffman, and you do it with guns cocked, hillbillies.

I'm not a Christian myself, but I was raised with the religion. I don't remember Jesus saying anything about weapons.

Even though Christ was a pacifist in some regards, his message was not that you should let yourself be killed by criminals. He did get killed by the state, but his death was not intended to suggest that his followers should martyr themselves.

 

[moon]

Even though Christ was a pacifist in some regards, his message was not that you should let yourself be killed by criminals. He did get killed by the state, but his death was not intended to suggest that his followers should martyr themselves.

He was murdered at the request of other Jews. Your whitewashing speaks volumes.

 

[Saudade]

He was murdered at the request of other Jews. Your whitewashing speaks volumes.

How is what I said "whitewashing?" Just because I don't hate Jews like you do, it's not whitewashing. Yes, the Pharisees used the state to kill Christ. Are you happy now?

 

[moon]

How is what I said "whitewashing?" Just because I don't hate Jews like you do, it's not whitewashing. Yes, the Pharisees used the state to kill Christ. Are you happy now?

Happier- but your assertion that I ' hate Jews' ranks you with all the other JPP ecocidal, gun-promoting, pro-semitic ass-heads.
Like them- you won't find any reference to any of your fabricated ' Jew-hatred ' anywhere in any of my contributions. However, your error does warrant reminders of your penchant for Eskimo-sodomy. I'll be happy to provide them.

 

[Saudade]

Happier- but your assertion that I ' hate Jews' ranks you with all the other JPP ecocidal, gun-promoting, pro-semitic ass-heads.
Like them- you won't find any reference to any of your fabricated ' Jew-hatred ' anywhere in any of my contributions. However, your error does warrant reminders of your penchant for Eskimo-sodomy. I'll be happy to provide them.

Eskimo sodomy? That's creative, I'll give you that.

Nevertheless, you'll have to forgive me for assuming you don't care much for Jews when you have a signature that literally says "ProSemitism is racist."

If I've mistaken your motivations, then I apologize, but you should probably change your signature or at least add to it in order to avoid confusion.

 

[moon]

Eskimo sodomy? That's creative, I'll give you that.

Nevertheless, you'll have to forgive me for assuming you don't care much for Jews when you have a signature that literally says "ProSemitism is racist."

If I've mistaken your motivations, then I apologize, but you should probably change your signature or at least add to it in order to avoid confusion.

What sort of a fool would think that promoting one ethnicity over another wasn't racist ? You're dummer than you think.


Go sodomize an Eskimo.

 

[Into the Night]

Here comes that squawking parrot headed fool again running it's beak for the NRA again!

The NRA did not write the 2nd amendment, dumbass.

 

[Into the Night]

Nothing stupider than a guntoting parrot!

YALIFNAP

 

[Into the Night]

EXCEPT you are talking about a well regulated militia- and you cannot have a well regulated militia without REGULATIONS!

I am not talking about any militia. YOU are. Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

The regulation is you must own a gun.

Nothing says anyone must own a gun.

 

[Into the Night]

What do you have against the NRA?

He thinks the NRA is somehow automatically considered dangerous and ridiculous. It's just bigotry again.