At Least 1 Dead in Shooting at Texas Church

The police have not said much. All we have heard from the police is the man was a homeless man, a mentally challenged person according to family members of the shooter, concealed a shotgun in his coat, entered the church, got into a conversation with a member, pulled out his gun, shot the member, and a voluntary security officer pulled his gun and shot the homeless man.

It could have been a single-shot shotgun for all I know! An innocent man died. And there are several members there in the Church that are voluntary security for the church who happen to be church members and also work as Peace Officers in their careers!

That's a good thing. Churches are targets for shootings today. Every Church should by now, have something worked out with members willing to provide armed security for these churches.

BUT SHOULD EVERY MEMBER IN THE CHURCH GO OUT AND BUY A HANDGUN TO BRING TO CHURCH? FUCK NO!

This church was fortunate to have actual Police officers as members to provide security, and it paid off- and maybe even saved one or more lives- WE JUST DON'T KNOW!

It would be nice to know how this mentally challenge homeless person acquired a gun.

To me, that is more of a concern than arming all the fucking choir boys and deacons with guns!

Sorry, but it is just the nature of this thread that OPie is using to push his Pro-Gun Agenda!
The shooter shot and killed two people. Many shotguns hold one in the chamber and 6 in the tube feed. We know the shooter shot two rounds I have not seen whether he had additional rounds in the shotgun.
 
The shooter shot and killed two people. Many shotguns hold one in the chamber and 6 in the tube feed. We know the shooter shot two rounds I have not seen whether he had additional rounds in the shotgun.

Thanks! My Franchi is plugged, but it could hold one in the chamber and 5 more in the sleeve as you said.
 
The police have not said much. All we have heard from the police is the man was a homeless man, a mentally challenged person according to family members of the shooter, concealed a shotgun in his coat, entered the church, got into a conversation with a member, pulled out his gun, shot the member, and a voluntary security officer pulled his gun and shot the homeless man.

It could have been a single-shot shotgun for all I know! An innocent man died. And there are several members there in the Church that are voluntary security for the church who happen to be church members and also work as Peace Officers in their careers!

That's a good thing. Churches are targets for shootings today. Every Church should by now, have something worked out with members willing to provide armed security for these churches.

BUT SHOULD EVERY MEMBER IN THE CHURCH GO OUT AND BUY A HANDGUN TO BRING TO CHURCH? FUCK NO!

This church was fortunate to have actual Police officers as members to provide security, and it paid off- and maybe even saved one or more lives- WE JUST DON'T KNOW!

It would be nice to know how this mentally challenge homeless person acquired a gun.

To me, that is more of a concern than arming all the fucking choir boys and deacons with guns!

Sorry, but it is just the nature of this thread that OPie is using to push his Pro-Gun Agenda!
I have been a deacon and I can assure you that I could competently engage a shooter with lethal force but I shoot 200 to 400 rounds a month at a range.. I shoot with my son who is on the North Tarrant County SWAT team. I CC regularly. I admit that you wouldn't want someone that does not practice the skill of shooting.
 
Thanks! My Franchi is plugged, but it could hold one in the chamber and 5 more in the sleeve as you said.
I have and old Savage 3 shot bolt action that I have had over 50 years I just keep it for nostalgia. I also have a side by side double barrel 20ga that I use for quail and dove and a Citori over under 12ga I shoot skeet and trap and ducks with. I also have a Pump Mossberg 88 for home defense. The pump will hold 6 shells.
 
Say what you want, but the man who shot him works for the Tarrant County Sheriff's Department.

I don't have a problem if someone professionally trained to carry a firearm, and a professional trained police officer, carries his gun to church!

Do I think the choir or deacons should be armed? FUCK NO!

YOU don't get to decide, dumbass. You are not the king.
 
YOU don't get to decide, dumbass. You are not the king.

Nothing stupider than a guntoting parrot!

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That's the last thing this country needs. MORE RACIST WHITE MEN WITH GUNS.

What about the racist black men that have been knifing Jews in NY and NJ?

I guess we're lucky they don't have guns, but the Jews haven't been so lucky without them.
 
Not only do we have more mass shootings, we have the highest gun death rate in the civilized world. Year in and year out.

Try to figure out why that is and propose something that can reduce that rate. That is, unless you're satisfied with being #1 in that category.

I did propose something in that very post that would solve that issue -- public mental healthcare facilities and funding.
 
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