A great first step to ending Abortion!

[evince]

So you haven't stopped beating your wife?

Im a married hetro chick you fucking idiot

 

[TOP]

You're moving the goal lines. The question was whether fetuses have a right to life. They do not.

Yes.. unborn children do. have rights, in many states, many circumstances......no goalposts moved.... '
(I've got to ask...do your friends have fetus showers these days?)

 

[USFREEDOM911]

all we need to do to stop abortion is to control the flow of sperm


why attack the problem at the end of the deal when the situation becomes far more dangerous for human bodies



attack the problem at the very source

control SPERM

Stop spitting and swallow, instead.

SPERM

 

[TOP]

Im a married hetro chick you fucking idiot

Is that a hateful metro chick?

 

[evince]

So you haven't stopped beating your wife?

you wish EVERY female including your mother, daughter, sisters and all females you have ever known to be prisoners of unwanted pregnancies



You want to tell the drs of women that a needed medical procedure for MANY health reasons should put you and her in prison



all so you don't have to control sperm



you are an idiot who obviously hates women

 

[USFREEDOM911]

SPERM causes all pregnancies


controlling sperm is simple



it will mean not one unwanted pregnancy will ever exist again



But it scares the Fuck out of men



its simple to control sperm




there are many ways to do it

So all barren women, like you, need to get pregnant, is sperm!!

Stop spitting and swallow.

SPERM

 

[Oneuli]

You're purposely phrasing those options in a way which makes one sound much better than the other.

That's because one is much better than the other.

It's about whether or not purposely taking away the life of one's own child is wrong

Purposely taking away the life of a fetus is neither right nor wrong. It's like taking away the life of a clump of fat cells during liposuction -- ideally you'd avoid it by not getting fat in the first place, but since an unthinking clump of cells have no right to life, it's not a great tragedy, either.

It is also about the sanctity of life

Individual life is not, in itself, sanctified. We destroy it in the millions each and every time we wash our hands, for example. It is CONSCIOUS life that is special.

Nope. Abstinence is much more effective.

Abstinence-focused education is less effective.

Abstinence isn't a "no sex forever" type of deal... It simply encourages people to WAIT until they are married

Yes, and education that focuses on encouraging people to do that is less effective at preventing disease and unwanted pregnancy than education that focuses on prophylaxis.

OR you teach both?

Teaching both an effective lesson and an ineffective lesson is, of course, better than only teaching the ineffective lesson. But it's also worse than spending the whole time on the effective lesson. It's akin to spending time in biology class teaching creationism. The more time you spend on it, the less time available for something worthwhile.

Yes, they do.

What makes you think that?

 

[CharacterAssassin]

So all barren women, like you, need to get pregnant, is sperm!!

Stop spitting and swallow.

SPERM

Why do you masturbate to the thought of raping your own father?

 

[evince]

Is that a hateful metro chick?

to all of you assholes who hated their mother so now they hate and distrust all women

 

[TOP]

Stop spitting and swallow, instead.

SPERM

...another version of the spitting story...lol

 

[evince]

So all barren women, like you, need to get pregnant, is sperm!!

Stop spitting and swallow.

SPERM

Im a 61 year old Mom of an adult child you fucking unimagining idiot



see you cant think of women as your equal
'

you want them punished for having a womb

 

[TOP]

Yup, that's her argument. She's being serious about it.

Apparently, an unborn child only counts as a child if the mother wants it, but it does not count as a child if the mother doesn't want it. "Desire" or "want", contrary to science, can supposedly change a child into a non-child... can supposedly change a life into a non-life... can supposedly change a life into a void.

An example is when someone murders a pregnant woman and gets charged with double homicide. Why does that unborn child count as another person in that case, but not count as a person in the case of abortion? The difference is "want"... In one case, the child is "wanted"... In the other case, the child is not wanted. What I want to know is how does "want" magickally change a life into a void?

You are correct about everything that you mention......She's pretty confused when it comes to this particular subject=she's sees to think liposuction and abortion are the same ("Purposely taking away the life of a fetus is neither right nor wrong. It's like taking away the life of a clump of fat cells during liposuction -- ideally you'd avoid it by not getting fat in the first place, but since an unthinking clump of cells have no right to life, it's not a great tragedy, either.")
‘....and apparently she doesn't consider pets to be a part of the family. So.... that kind of says it all...

 

[evince]

control your sperm injection mechanism



its as simple as that

 

[evince]

many women can DIE from a pregnancy


its fucking scientific FACT


but all you care about is making sure you can imprison a woman with refusal to medical procedures

 

[Oneuli]

If she doesn't want a pregnancy, then she shouldn't have sex.

That's a bit like saying that if you don't want to drown, don't go swimming. That would work, but there are better alternatives. And if you focus on not going swimming as the way to prevent drowning, you're just increasing the chances that when people ignore you and swim anyway, they won't be armed with the practical information that could keep them from drowning.

Humans are INHERENTLY religious, Oneuli...

It's true that superstition is common enough that it's probably hard-wired, to some extent... and not just in humans. Studies have shown that even pigeons behave religiously. BF Skinner showed that if you feed pigeons at random times, they'll start to recognize non-existent patterns and engage in meaningless prayer-like behavior to try to trigger the feedings. Fortunately, some humans are smart enough and open-minded enough to rise above the sin of faith.

 

[Oneuli]

Yes.. unborn children do. have rights, in many states, many circumstances....

You're moving the goal lines. The question was whether fetuses have a right to life. They do not.

 

[gfm7175]

The only war right now is on men, it's everywhere, especially advertising, all those commercials making look men look stupid, and incapable.

I see you've noticed that too then... It's funny that those types of people speak of "equality" and "love trumps hate" and similar language, yet they are the ones who are waging war against men, who are supporting the exact opposite of what they preach...

 

[gfm7175]

you are an idiot who obviously hates women

Yup, you got me pegged to a tee... women suck... they are useless, except for making sammiches in the kitchen where they belong...

Too bad there's hundreds of different genders now, and women looking like men, and vice versa, to where I barely even know who's supposed to be in the kitchen and who's supposed to be mowing the lawn...

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Im a 61 year old Mom of an adult child you fucking unimagining idiot



see you cant think of women as your equal
'

you want them punished for having a womb

But you said that all a women needs to get pregnant, is sperm; so you feel you can still get pregnant, if you could find someone to give you sperm.

 

[gfm7175]

You are correct about everything that you mention......She's pretty confused when it comes to this particular subject=she's sees to think liposuction and abortion are the same ("Purposely taking away the life of a fetus is neither right nor wrong. It's like taking away the life of a clump of fat cells during liposuction -- ideally you'd avoid it by not getting fat in the first place, but since an unthinking clump of cells have no right to life, it's not a great tragedy, either.")
‘....and apparently she doesn't consider pets to be a part of the family. So.... that kind of says it all...

Yup... She seems to be carefully choosing words like "fetus" and "clump of cells" in an attempt to dehumanize the child to make it seem okay to terminate it's life. It's amazing that she thinks that a baby 8 months into the pregnancy cycle is a "clump of cells"...