The Saudis and our government are guilty as well.
Saudi Arabia’s bitch!
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It's a defensive war for KSA at least -their border guards were getting shot and missiles were flying into the kingdom.
what's Iran's excuse?
I don't care what he knows or doesn't know about the oil biz but yes he understands the ME.
He certainly gets Iranian hegemony, and our security partnerships with KSA.
You should be happy Trump has stood up to the mob cries for breaking off relations;
as well as his measured response to the murder
moon
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Iran hasn't invaded anybody- and ' a defensive war cannot be aggressive of itself ' That's the legal position- not that that would bother you much. You're a cheerleader for garottes and bone-saw diplomacy.
what legit interests does Iran have in arming the Houthis?
No.. Trump doesn't know anything about KSA or the ME or the oil business.
moon
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You mean that the US, the Brits, French, Canadians, Belgians, Russians, Chinese and the fucking Izraelis can sell arms to whoever they like and the Iranians CAN'T ? Do you even know what hypocrisy means ?
I’m not excusing any of them, you are
Iran wants to control the Persian Gulf and Red Sea.. Yemen and Socotra... They hate the Saudis because the Saudis have prospered, moved forward and enjoyed good international relations... while Iran have not.
Iran is focused on hate.. They hate Israel, the US and Saudi Arabia..
Since 2003, the Houthis' slogan "God is great, death to the US, death to Israel, curse the Jews, and victory for Islam" has been their trademark.
How many attacks and suicide bombs do you think the Saudis should put up with before they fight back?
As many as the Israeli's.
I stand with the Yemeni people, the innocents who suffer while these various groups fight each other. 85,000 children have died of starvation. It is criminal. You act as if I do not find Iran guilty as well, I do, but the Saudis are causing undue suffering to the poorest of the poor. They are not blameless in this.
OK fine. I can't get past your hatred of Trump, and it's not my business to try.
whether he "knows" or doesn't know, would you agree or not that he took the correct course here?
( limited sanctions - not breaking off relations)
Yes.. I think he did the right thing. In all likelihood MBS will be replaced by Prince Ahmad bin Abdulazzis ibn Saud.
actually I've been critical of the saudi air war only. they HAVE armed forces -pretty good ones at that.
But KSA will not use them as an expeditionary force despite all this talk of a "Sunni coalition"
I have said they "have a tiger by the tail" in Yemen -they can't let go, and they can't escalate without getting bogged down in trying to hold territory in Yemen ( ideal geographics/players for a protracted guerilla war.)
so the beat goes on. by default. i certainly have no answers
I hate to see MbS go..I had high hopes for reform
I would expect him to support 'American Values'. (Like killing Reporters is NOT what we support)
moon
Satire for Sanity
The Don's Consiglieri Khashoggi Scandal Completes Trump-Netanyahu Symbiosis
Trump's donning of an Israeli flak jacket to deflect international criticism and coming to the defense of a key client of the American arms industry completes the definition of Israel’s role
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.pr...ighlights-trump-netanyahu-symbiosis-1.6676683
The president is a fucking Izrael Firster. This ' America first ' is a goddam sham.
he didn't support the murder, in fact he set sanctions on those known to have been a part of it.
But as you know Jack -you are fairly smart on geopolitics- we don't just jettison a close "special relationship"
over 1 murder no matter how gruesome.
Trump made a big boy call