You do realize he has gone full fascist in his speeches

kudzu said:
The Difference Between Nationalism, Patriotism, Sectionalism, and Jingoism

Nationalism has a number of near-synonyms, each of which carries its own distinct meaning. Patriotism is similar insofar as it emphasizes strong feelings for one’s country, but it does not necessarily imply an attitude of superiority.

Sectionalism resembles nationalism in its suggestion of a geopolitical group pursuing its self-interest, but the group in question is usually smaller than an entire nation. Jingoism closely resembles nationalism in suggesting feelings of cultural superiority, but unlike nationalism, it always implies military aggressiveness.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalism
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I keep waiting for them to say Merriam Websters is a left wing mob
 
GuilleX said:
Go jill off to pictures of dead Syrians you nazi bitch.
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Nationalist leaders of 20th-century nation states

Adolf Hitler (Germany)
Michel Aflaq (Arabs)
Abdullahi Issa (Somalia)
Kemal Atatürk (Turkey)
Eleftherios Venizelos (Greece)
King Ghazi (Iraq)
Norodom Sihanouk (Cambodia)
Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam)
Mykhailo Hrushevsky (Ukraine)
Miklós Horthy (Hungary)
Alija Izetbegović (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
Mohammad Ali Jinnah (Pakistan)
Mohammad Iqbal (Pakistan)
Chaudhry Rehmat Ali (Pakistan)
Modibo Keita (Mali)
Jomo Kenyatta (Kenya)
Kim Il-sung (North Korea)
Syngman Rhee (South Korea)
Patrice Lumumba (Democratic Republic of the Congo)
Nelson Mandela (South Africa)
Norman Manley (Jamaica)
King Muhammad V (Morocco)
Mujibur Rahman (Bangladesh)
Juan Domingo Perón (Argentina)
Gamal Abdel Nasser (Egypt/Arabs)
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (India)
Kwame Nkrumah (Ghana)
Sam Nujoma (Namibia)
Milton Obote (Uganda)
Sylvanus Olympio (Togo)
Sir Lynden Pindling (The Bahamas)
Louis Rwagasore (Burundi)
Thomas Sankara (Burkina Faso)
Antanas Smetona (Lithuania)
Sukarno (Indonesia)
Ahmed Sékou Touré (Guinea)
Eric Williams (Trinidad and Tobago)
Ziaur Rahman (Bangladesh)
 
kudzu said:
Nationalist leaders of 20th-century nation states

Adolf Hitler (Germany)
Michel Aflaq (Arabs)
Abdullahi Issa (Somalia)
Kemal Atatürk (Turkey)
Eleftherios Venizelos (Greece)
King Ghazi (Iraq)
Norodom Sihanouk (Cambodia)
Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam)
Mykhailo Hrushevsky (Ukraine)
Miklós Horthy (Hungary)
Alija Izetbegović (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
Mohammad Ali Jinnah (Pakistan)
Mohammad Iqbal (Pakistan)
Chaudhry Rehmat Ali (Pakistan)
Modibo Keita (Mali)
Jomo Kenyatta (Kenya)
Kim Il-sung (North Korea)
Syngman Rhee (South Korea)
Patrice Lumumba (Democratic Republic of the Congo)
Nelson Mandela (South Africa)
Norman Manley (Jamaica)
King Muhammad V (Morocco)
Mujibur Rahman (Bangladesh)
Juan Domingo Perón (Argentina)
Gamal Abdel Nasser (Egypt/Arabs)
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (India)
Kwame Nkrumah (Ghana)
Sam Nujoma (Namibia)
Milton Obote (Uganda)
Sylvanus Olympio (Togo)
Sir Lynden Pindling (The Bahamas)
Louis Rwagasore (Burundi)
Thomas Sankara (Burkina Faso)
Antanas Smetona (Lithuania)
Sukarno (Indonesia)
Ahmed Sékou Touré (Guinea)
Eric Williams (Trinidad and Tobago)
Ziaur Rahman (Bangladesh)
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And? You hate Mandela?
 
anatta said:
Trump was actually clear on this for once.
He showed globalism vs.nationalism explanation that nationalism puts the nations best interests first -while globalists consider the overall well being of the world as an equally important factor.
Obviously a POTUS must be a nationalist in that sense

Nationalism is a long used word look it up. The Chinese are nationalists..why not the USA?
it's nothing more then advocating for one's country - it has nothing to do with what you Dems/libs are trying to attach like "white nationalism"and dog whistles.
If you had bothered to do any research about the rally - Trump was very clear on this.
Trump is rarely clear on anything,but he actually broke it down as i explain
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"Why not the USA?"
UHM, because we aren't Chinese?
WTF
 
reagansghost said:
the term 'nationalism' can be benign as is in pride in one's country

as opposed to Trump, Franco, Mussolini et al's usage, extreme nationalism

....as in the Nazi party's usage "National Socialism" which is code for extreme nationalism for all........and terms like European 'Democratic Socialism' which is code for sharing the national wealth/productivity with all (capitalism very much a part of that mix)
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The word would be patriotism.
 
anatta said:
The difference is narrowing the wage gap mean less out sourcing and more decision making about auto assembly factoring other concepts the just the default "cheap Mexican labor" that has already driven much of the outsourcing
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No, it doesn't. Narrowing the wage gap doesn't solve the wage gap. The wage gap is the problem, and narrowing it nominally isn't going to solve that problem because ultimately, the wage is still lower. The only way is to universalize the wage so that it's consistent between the three countries. Then and only then would there be a viable and legitimate debate about outsourcing. But nominally increasing Mexican wages to a level still below that of US wages isn't going to change the opportunity costs of lower-wage labor. It might not be as low wage, but it's still lower than the wage in the US. So it accomplishes exactly nothing.
 
anatta said:
stupid. you are arguing better quality control doesn't add value to auto parts.
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Quality control is something the businesses are already doing. And you haven't explained how this was changed by Trump. To me, it sounds like you're just winging this.

So you're not accomplishing anything.
 
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