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Thing1 said:
LOL

Sorry - you clearly don't understand what the stimulus accomplished. You also seem to have a very limited understanding of economics in general.
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did it accomplish something in 2009?.......2010?.......2011?.......2012?........if I recall, somewhere around 2015 the economy finally got back to where it was when Obama got elected..........I don't consider that much of an accomplishment........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
dude, if the stimulus worked why did it take six years for recovery?........
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Dude, both the stock market & economy grew starting in late 2009 and lasting all the way through Obama's admin.

I forgot - you think we were in "recession" that whole time. Laughable - the longest string of consecutive growth quarters in decades...
 
Thing1 said:
Dude, both the stock market & economy grew starting in late 2009 and lasting all the way through Obama's admin.

I forgot - you think we were in "recession" that whole time. Laughable - the longest string of consecutive growth quarters in decades...
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It was actually March of 2009, not late 2009 that the stock market recovery began. A whole month after Obama was elected.
 
Thing1 said:
Can you imagine if Trump did for the economy what Obama did after taking over when it was spiraling downward, after the biggest crash in decades?
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If Obama had done nothing, the economy would have rebounded and we wouldn't have had to amass ten trillion in additional debt.

What SPECIFIC policy did Obama pass/implement that caused the economy to rebound?

Thing1 said:
Tripling the stock market, bringing the unemployment rate back to where we were just a few months from full employment when he left office, creating millions of jobs, a near-record # of quarters in a row where the economy grew, saving the auto industry - if that was Trump, there would be 24x7 tweetstorms where he proclaimed himself the greatest leader in the history of mankind.
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See above.
 
Thing1 said:
LOL

Sorry - you clearly don't understand what the stimulus accomplished. You also seem to have a very limited understanding of economics in general.
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You do? List them out specifically and what they did to spark the most anemic non-recovery in our history.
 
Getin the ring said:
yea, I read you fu@kin nut-bag, suggest you do the same.

the 800 billion "stimulus" was a waste of money. Even the staunchest of defenders, real defenders , not triggered nut-bags on a forum, are reduced to saying it "saved" jobs, not created. which is quite a stretch for justifying 800 billion dollars.

I cited Solyndra, I cited the broadband debacle, I cited the states wasting most of their monies on bankrolling their bankruptcy due to fiscal irresponsibility, I'll cite the CBO report that a 100 billion of it was lost to waste and fraud, that unemployment continued up for 3 years after the "stimulus", we as a country were 10 trillion more in debt when Obama left office than we were when he got there. the "stimulus" was throw money at a problem, that's not a policy, anyone could have done that. ya think? It's like taking a credit card and saying "here, go fix what you need to fix, whatever it takes, pay the other credit cards off, clean energy ideas, go for it, it's on the card".
And then the idiot put regulations on companies that killed the jobs he was trying to create. Obama did not know what he was doing, it wasn't his fault it was the affirmative action campaign that put him in that position.

and I've yet to hear one lasting good thing from a liberal that the "stimulus" did
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Thing1 said:
Well, as long as you're citing the CBO, you can reference the 3 million jobs that the CBO reported that it saved AND created (not just "saved", though that stat is equally as important). And you can cite the economists and investors who affirm that without it, the economy would have kept spiraling downward.

The stimulus turned things around. It wasn't responsible for all of the recovery, but it paved the way for the private sector to take over and gave investors and employers confidence again. The proof is in the results - again, the stock market tripled and we were less than 1% away from full employment by the time Obama left office.

Trump is also creating huge debt, but I don't hear you whining about that.

You just hate giving Democrats - and specifically Obama - any credit. Like I said, if Trump had the kind of results Obama had in terms of stock market growth, consecutive quarters of job creation, almost achieving full employment - after the huge Bush crash - we wouldn't hear the end of it.
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CBO?????

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Thing1 said:
Dude, both the stock market & economy grew starting in late 2009 and lasting all the way through Obama's admin.

I forgot - you think we were in "recession" that whole time. Laughable - the longest string of consecutive growth quarters in decades...
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The ONLY reason the stock market "grew" was because they were riding on the free money Quantitative Easing provided....which helped NO ONE but the fat cats in Wall Street.
 
Loving91390 said:
Anybody but Obama ... he quadrupled my healthcare premiums and lowered my healthcare benefits . I hope he dies !
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He gave me 5 grand towards a new car for my POS and saved the global economy and restored a half million of real estate equity to me that Bush stole.
 
Micawber said:
He gave me 5 grand towards a new car for my POS and saved the global economy and restored a half million of real estate equity to me that Bush stole.
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You think Obama did that? Were Bernanke and Yellen just his puppets?
 
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