Simple solutions to school shootings

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
My God man, its bad enough that you display ignorance....that you are seemingly proud of it and then condescend to others is so much more to pity you. Small wonder Trump, Bush and Reagan love fools like you.

But hope springs eternal. You need to understand the difference between fraudulent ID & registration, and actual voter fraud. For your education:

http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork.o...ican-elections

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/voter-fraud

No moron, you need to learn reading comprehension skills.

You're quick with the insults, but totally FAIL to provide any valid, documented facts that disprove the information provided. Carry on, McDuff!

 

[RB 60]

Translation: another Super Freaking Dumb smoke blowing and insipid stubbornness. Anyone with an 8th grade reading comprehension skill can understand the clear statements of the OP and subsequent responses. But rather than just concede a point, SF just displays the usual intellectual dishonesty we all expect from the rabid fringe gunner/conservative.

The point is that the AR-15 (style) rifle(s) sold commercially are ASSAULT RIFLES....originally designed for military use and is highly adaptable for modifications....but STILL an assault rifle.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-a-scaletta/ar15s-are-basically-assau_b_10469112.html



The firearms industry itself introduced the term "assault weapon" to build interest in new product lines.[8] Phillip Peterson, the author of Gun Digest Buyer’s Guide to Assault Weapons (2008) wrote:

The popularly held idea that the term 'assault weapon' originated with anti-gun activists is wrong. The term was first adopted by manufacturers, wholesalers, importers and dealers in the American firearms industry to stimulate sales of certain firearms that did not have an appearance that was familiar to many firearms owners. The manufacturers and gun writers of the day needed a catchy name to identify this new type of gun.[23]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Huffingtonpost and Wiki...

 

[rjhenn]

So let me get this straight.....you're against a ban on assault weapons as they are manufactured like the AR-15 because a bunch of yahoos can convert other weapons to a similar status?

Well then guess what? Merely ban those conversion "kits" gunners were putting out on e-bay and such...as their intent is to construct an ILLEGAL (if the law was in effect) weapon. Now don't waste my time with some BS about innocent kits, because I do recall the sales of specific tools were being put out....and if it's so damned easy to do, then the average gunner wouldn't need to buy a kit off the 'net. Same goes for the bump stocks.

But I digress...do you agree that if the law was in place, then Cruz would NOT had this weapon?

Sorry, but a bump stock can be made with any 3D printer. The technology for those is rapidly advancing to the point where it will be entirely possible to print a machine gun. The restrictions mentioned here, and more, are already in effect in countries like Mexico and Brazil, where they are proving entirely ineffectual. Guns are not the problem, and this obsessive focus on them is only preventing us from determining what the actual problem is or are.

Oh, and such a law would not have kept Cruz from obtaining his weapon. It might, only might, have made it a bit more difficult. An "assault weapon" is just a semi-automatic rifle that scares the bejesus out of the ignorant because it looks like a military weapon.

 

[RB 60]

Try reading carefully and comprehensively, my intellectually impotent friend. I did not "make up" the terms....the military did and the gun manufacturers followed suit...definitions that did NOT depend solely on the rifle being fully automatic...a matter of fact, a matter of history documented time and again. But do continue to be willfully ignorant....most entertaining.

It was the Germans who coined the phrase "Assault Rifle." It referred to their recently developed MACHINE GUN! Look it up.

 

[rjhenn]

More ignorance. An "assault rifle" is a selective fire military weapon. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic only clone of an assault rifle design. Assault rifles are legally considered machine guns and, as such, have been severely regulated and restricted since the 1930s. They've been essentially banned for civilians since the '60s. Legal machine guns have rarely been used in crimes, and were only restricted in the first place because of their use by the criminal organizations spawned by Prohibition. Similarly, much of our current problem with gun violence is due to the criminal gangs spawned by the War on Drugs.

 

[CFM]

Okay, listen up NRA flunkies and republican/conservative wonks. To prevent shootings like what recently happened in Florida, you do the following:

1. Reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. Had this been in place, Cruz would NOT have had an AR-15 in his possession.

2. Treat ALL weapons like an automobile. This means that they have to be licensed and registered, and the owner has to pass a written and physical competency test. This will severely cut down on the trafficking of illegal gun sales and greatly assist in the tracking of guns used in a crime.

Got that?

1) How about we reinstate the 18th amendment so no alcohol can be in anyone's possession and drunk driving will no longer kill people?

2) Since criminals don't follow laws, how do you suggest we address those that won't comply and for which no means of knowing exists?

While we're at it, why don't we pass laws saying murder is wrong and bringing guns onto school property is illegal. Wouldn't that stop such things?

 

[CFM]

now that's a damned stupid thing to say. believe me or not but you believing me doesn't matter to me at all. it happened, prove it didn't.

YOUR claim, YOUR responsibility to prove it.

 

[CFM]

No moron, an assault rifle has the ability to switch from semi to fully automatic. The AR15 does not. You fucking idiot. They are not 'highly adaptable'. You are simply making shit up.

But it's scary looking.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
So let me get this straight.....you're against a ban on assault weapons as they are manufactured like the AR-15 because a bunch of yahoos can convert other weapons to a similar status?

Well then guess what? Merely ban those conversion "kits" gunners were putting out on e-bay and such...as their intent is to construct an ILLEGAL (if the law was in effect) weapon. Now don't waste my time with some BS about innocent kits, because I do recall the sales of specific tools were being put out....and if it's so damned easy to do, then the average gunner wouldn't need to buy a kit off the 'net. Same goes for the bump stocks.

But I digress...do you agree that if the law was in place, then Cruz would NOT had this weapon?

Sorry, but a bump stock can be made with any 3D printer. The technology for those is rapidly advancing to the point where it will be entirely possible to print a machine gun. The restrictions mentioned here, and more, are already in effect in countries like Mexico and Brazil, where they are proving entirely ineffectual. Guns are not the problem, and this obsessive focus on them is only preventing us from determining what the actual problem is or are.

Oh, and such a law would not have kept Cruz from obtaining his weapon. It might, only might, have made it a bit more difficult. An "assault weapon" is just a semi-automatic rifle that scares the bejesus out of the ignorant because it looks like a military weapon.

Did you just put out a version of "guns don't kill people, people kill people"? I mean, you do realize how stupid that is, right? Because again, IF CRUZ DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PARTICULAR WEAPON, HE WOULD NOT OF USED IT! Yes, he could have gotten any other type of weapon, but he chose the one most effective for his crime, as other mass shooters have in the last 20 some odd years.

And PLEASE read my other posts on this thread were I prove in no uncertain terms that the AR15 was originally designed as an assault rifle for the military. A matter of fact, a matter of history.

And just because Mexico & Brazil are having difficulty (of which you give no details) does not mean other countries cannot can do better....because those countries don't exactly have sterling crime stats you can compare to other industrialized nations in the world.

 

[Taichiliberal]

More ignorance. An "assault rifle" is a selective fire military weapon. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic only clone of an assault rifle design. Assault rifles are legally considered machine guns and, as such, have been severely regulated and restricted since the 1930s. They've been essentially banned for civilians since the '60s. Legal machine guns have rarely been used in crimes, and were only restricted in the first place because of their use by the criminal organizations spawned by Prohibition. Similarly, much of our current problem with gun violence is due to the criminal gangs spawned by the War on Drugs.

You are as ignorant as a like minded compadre of yours with your myopic responses. Here's how I schooled him https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ons-to-school-shootings&p=2269251#post2269251

 

[CFM]

Did you just put out a version of "guns don't kill people, people kill people"? I mean, you do realize how stupid that is, right? Because again, IF CRUZ DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PARTICULAR WEAPON, HE WOULD NOT OF USED IT! Yes, he could have gotten any other type of weapon, but he chose the one most effective for his crime, as other mass shooters have in the last 20 some odd years.

And PLEASE read my other posts on this thread were I prove in no uncertain terms that the AR15 was originally designed as an assault rifle for the military. A matter of fact, a matter of history.

And just because Mexico & Brazil are having difficulty (of which you give no details) does not mean other countries cannot can do better....because those countries don't exactly have sterling crime stats you can compare to other industrialized nations in the world.

I have FOUR of what you want banned. Why do you want to punish me for something I didn't do by banning something I haven't misused?

By the way, I also have a Ruger Mini 14. It shoots in the same semi-automatic manner, the same caliber round, and has the same size magazine as the AR 15. In other words, IF CRUZ HAD USED ONE OF THOSE, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN USING THE SAME THING YOU WANT TO BAN. Get over yourself. The AR 15 looks scary to you and that's what you use to judge it.