Carbon Loophole: Why Is Wood Burning Counted as Green Energy?

Bigdog said:
The European demand, driven by carbon credit costs, is keeping American wood pellet prices artificially elevated.

As more pellet burning plants are built, which is the new liberal craze, more forests will need to be cleared to supply them.

You can thank The Goracle :palm:
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I don't know what the exact numbers are, but I'm willing to bet that most of the sawdust used for pellets comes from sawmills. The building/manufacturing trades account for most of the logging. Unless you have evidence that entire trees are used for pellets.
 
Our house is just under a 1000 square feet.

When we used to use our fireplace; I would start the fire going by using some pine, then when it was burning I would use mesquite.
Just before going to bed, I would put on a piece of ironwood and then when I got up in the morning all I had to do is stir the coals and put on another piece of mequite.
 
Shape Shifter said:
We are subsidising those pellet imports to the tune of £1.5 million per day at Drax power station, it is the economics of the madhouse. Drax is the biggest biomass power station in the world.

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That's what this ia really about you cheap fuck.
Oh and Thanks Lol.
 
Althea said:
I don't know what the exact numbers are, but I'm willing to bet that most of the sawdust used for pellets comes from sawmills. The building/manufacturing trades account for most of the logging. Unless you have evidence that entire trees are used for pellets.
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I was googling some articles and the consensus seems to be that about 35% comes from waste wood, the rest is grown.

This whole thing smells like another European Carbon Credit boondoggle disaster like the Mount Elgon fiasco.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Yeah, husband just calculated yesterday that we only have enough to last till the end of February at the rate we're using it.

Thanks for all the info, plus the link, much appreciated.
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You will be fine. The cold spell will snap this weekend and your usage will decrease.
 
Rune said:
Buy a good set of knee pads, make all the money yourself. Tile is easy for one with your skills.
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I'm tempted, and I have a great set of knee pads. Home Depot ran a beautiful wet saw on sale this year. I'm doing the GF's bathroom this spring. I might start with her job, as I really don't want to learn on a paying job. I've seen quite a bit of it lately, and actually assisted on a few to move the job along. Floors are a breeze. Shower walls are what I don't want to screw up on. I do all the prep on my jobs, and leave only that actual tile install to my guy.

But 8"x48", and 36" 'planks' are all the rage. They're all crowned a bit, and my cabinetmaker's mentality would have me obsessing over where to make up the slack.

60 is a tad old to start a new skillset... ;)
 
Althea said:
I doubt it. There is no shortage of pellets. They're just raping us because they can.
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You're getting raped because you believe in the Goracle's and Big Corp's advertising marketing scam that appeals to virtue signaling liberals. This is what it is all about.

:rofl2:
 
Bigdog said:
The European demand, driven by carbon credit costs, is keeping American wood pellet prices artificially elevated.

As more pellet burning plants are built, which is the new liberal craze, more forests will need to be cleared to supply them.

You can thank The Goracle :palm:
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Bullshit.
As pellet demand increases, more of the former paper mill acres will be recultivated.
 
Rune said:
Bullshit.
As pellet demand increases, more of the former paper mill acres will be recultivated.
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Well, IDK about that. I'd like to see some significant stats and see why that land should not be "returned" to nature. Those power plants devour an enormous ... enormous amount of wood.
 
Althea said:
I'm tempted, and I have a great set of knee pads. Home Depot ran a beautiful wet saw on sale this year. I'm doing the GF's bathroom this spring. I might start with her job, as I really don't want to learn on a paying job. I've seen quite a bit of it lately, and actually assisted on a few to move the job along. Floors are a breeze. Shower walls are what I don't want to screw up on. I do all the prep on my jobs, and leave only that actual tile install to my guy.

But 8"x48", and 36" 'planks' are all the rage. They're all crowned a bit, and my cabinetmaker's mentality would have me obsessing over where to make up the slack.

60 is a tad old to start a new skillset... ;)
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As a fabricator all materials are virtually the same to me as long as I have the tools to work the material.
 
Bigdog said:
Well, IDK about that. I'd like to see some significant stats and see why that land should not be "returned" to nature. Those power plants devour an enormous ... enormous amount of wood.
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Such abject hypocrisy.
Why don't we 'return' some of your net worth to the treasury?
 
Bigdog said:
I was googling some articles and the consensus seems to be that about 35% comes from waste wood, the rest is grown.

This whole thing smells like another European Carbon Credit boondoggle disaster like the Mount Elgon fiasco.
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This is from the pellet fuel industry, which might be at the opposite end of the spectrum where I'm sure you will go for info.

Somewhere in the middle lies the truth. Or perhaps you're talking about Europe?

http://www.woodpellets.com/heating-fuels/pellet-sources.aspx
 
Rune said:
As a fabricator all materials are virtually the same to me as long as I have the tools to work the material.
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Yep. In the shop, it's similar, with hardwood being a bit more of a pain than soft. Installing is also pretty much the same across the board. I'm hearing a lot of my tile guys talk about these porcelain tiles being a whole new animal. I do know that drilling holes in them is much tougher than ceramic tile.
 
Bigdog said:

You're getting raped because you believe in the Goracle's and Big Corp's advertising marketing scam that appeals to virtue signaling liberals. This is what it is all about.

:rofl2:
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This came about because that useless twat Ed Milliband got the Climate Change Act passed in Parliament in 2008.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...ood-chips-really-worse-than-burning-coal.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...-we-have-to-scrap-the-Climate-Change-Act.html

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Althea said:
A freekin men. I always thought that using a hammer/maul was faster, but you spend so much time chasing the pieces after you hit them the first time. And for those twisted chunks, nothing beats hydraulics. I've got a system down now. It seems slower than by hand, but after an hour or so...I have a much bigger pile of split wood than I used to.

And the body is much happier.
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I have a 27 ton and it rips through hickory which can be the knottiest pain in the ass.

Using a maul and hammer is good for maple and oak. Hands down a splitter is the way to go
 
countryboy said:
Yeah I try not to put it on my skin too, unless I'm going to be out after dark wearing shorts and short sleeves, then I use the weaker stuff. I also cut mostly dead standing. But I will cut the occasional live tree, if it's unhealthy, or needs to be removed for land clearing or whatever.

What type of work do you do, are you in the trades?
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Be careful putting your saw to a dead standing tree. The tops/dead limbs have been know to drop of them.

We call them widow makers here.
 
Darth Omar said:
Be careful putting your saw to a dead standing tree. The tops/dead limbs have been know to drop of them.

We call them widow makers here.
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Lol, that's what we call em too.

You have to be careful felling trees period, they can do some very unpredictable things.
 
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