Carbon Loophole: Why Is Wood Burning Counted as Green Energy?

I know some people that burn pine in their wood burning stoves and swear they get no creosote from it. They claim to let it season for almost two years before burning. I only burn pine in my outside pit. It lights quick, burns quick and is a really intense flame that I like for outdoors. Most of the research I have done on creosote buildup is that it is due to unseasoned wood with slow burns.

This cold snap is forcing me to turn on the furnace a bit. Don't like it, but the wife hates to be cold. Really going through the wood this year.
I'm going through the wood too, but I should be ok for the season. I'm of the thought that a lot of the creosote is due to damping down the stove. I know those hydronic systems auto damp, but the stack is so short, and at times it runs full bore, so that should typically negate any buildup per se.
 
Ah, you're like me. Jack of all trades, master of one. :D

I'm a tile guy for about twenty years now. But I was a carpenter before that.
Huh...I was going to mention that the frustration I have with the bathrooms is waiting on my tile guy! I refuse to start doing tiles...despite my tile guys telling me I should.

If I were hungry, I'd consider it, but I'm not there yet. And these new porcelain tiles are a pain in the ass!
 
Lol, my wife is the Official Stacker too. But in all these years I haven't been able to teach her how to stack straight. She always makes what I call, the Leaning Tower of Pisa, LOL. No biggie, I keep a piece of plywood handy to straighten out her stacks. :D She also helps me load and haul the rounds.

I love your woods! Aren't you in NE Ohio, you said?
 
This is the unit I have. Actually came with the house.

http://www.fireplacesandmoreinc.com/brunco.html
Hmm...as you said, I think that's primarily meant for coal, which probably makes for a smaller firebox? I love mine. I used to rig up a blower system using old scroll cage motors from kitchen renovations. I NEVER throw out fans/motors. My unit has a huge blower that's thermostatically controlled...not unlike yours.
 
My husband found that he enjoys it too. Last year and this we ordered a couple cords of wood. He also cut up some downed trees and split the wood to supplement that. He's getting a log splitter in a couple of weeks and we're going to start doing it 100% ourselves. I'm the Official Stacker. Sure warms you up on a cold day.
Finally had to break down and buy a splitter after 30+ years of hand splitting 7-10 cords/year....alone. My joints just couldn't take it anymore.
 
We cut down a long-dead pine at the end of our driveway a couple of weeks ago. Do you think that wood would be okay to burn in the indoors wood stove? We are concerned about the creosote too.
As Rune mentioned...use it during the day if you want to let the stove rip. I wouldn't use it for a slow burn.
 
Finally had to break down and buy a splitter after 30+ years of hand splitting 7-10 cords/year....alone. My joints just couldn't take it anymore.

OMGosh. I hand split for about five years, then saw a splitter on sale one day at Lowe's. It's got two flat tires, and I have to keep a bungee cord on the choke lever, but it still runs, lol.

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We cut down a long-dead pine at the end of our driveway a couple of weeks ago. Do you think that wood would be okay to burn in the indoors wood stove? We are concerned about the creosote too.

I doubt it. Even if it is down and laying on the ground, it can suck up moisture. I have found that six months is enough for pine to season once it is split, but that is for my outdoor fire pit. I will once in a while throw a piece of pine in my wood burning stove to get it going good, but for the most part I stick to hard woods. I am fortunate that I have a near endless supply of hardwood. My reason for staying away from pine is you have to keep so much more of it on hand because it exhausts itself quicker.

At the end of the day, you should burn whatever is readily available and easily obtainable. All wood will burn and provide heat if it is seasoned correctly.

I would suggest investing in a moisture meter. You can use it for many different purposes, but I use it solely for checking my wood. Some will say you can tell by looking at it, which I guess is true, but I prefer to know. This works great. Anything under 20% moisture is considered seasoned, but I like to go below 15%.

https://www.amazon.com/General-Tool...qid=1514917022&sr=8-3&keywords=moisture+meter

I am hoping this cold spell breaks soon, I am really going through the wood. It is going to be a long spring replenishing the supply :)
 
Finally had to break down and buy a splitter after 30+ years of hand splitting 7-10 cords/year....alone. My joints just couldn't take it anymore.

I have a splitter. Wish I had bought it years ago and not waited for the body to tell me to do it
 
The European demand, driven by carbon credit costs, is keeping American wood pellet prices artificially elevated.

As more pellet burning plants are built, which is the new liberal craze, more forests will need to be cleared to supply them.

You can thank The Goracle :palm:
 
I doubt it. Even if it is down and laying on the ground, it can suck up moisture. I have found that six months is enough for pine to season once it is split, but that is for my outdoor fire pit. I will once in a while throw a piece of pine in my wood burning stove to get it going good, but for the most part I stick to hard woods. I am fortunate that I have a near endless supply of hardwood. My reason for staying away from pine is you have to keep so much more of it on hand because it exhausts itself quicker.

At the end of the day, you should burn whatever is readily available and easily obtainable. All wood will burn and provide heat if it is seasoned correctly.

I would suggest investing in a moisture meter. You can use it for many different purposes, but I use it solely for checking my wood. Some will say you can tell by looking at it, which I guess is true, but I prefer to know. This works great. Anything under 20% moisture is considered seasoned, but I like to go below 15%.
I am hoping this cold spell breaks soon, I am really going through the wood. It is going to be a long spring replenishing the supply :)

Yeah, husband just calculated yesterday that we only have enough to last till the end of February at the rate we're using it.

Thanks for all the info, plus the link, much appreciated.
 
The European demand, driven by carbon credit costs, is keeping American wood pellet prices artificially elevated.

As more pellet burning plants are built, which is the new liberal craze, more forests will need to be cleared to supply them.

You can thank The Goracle :palm:
We are subsidising those pellet imports to the tune of £1.5 million per day at Drax power station, it is the economics of the madhouse. Drax is the biggest biomass power station in the world.

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And that’s just one of the reasons I don’t live in an urban area lol.

My pellet stove is cranking out the heat in front of me as I type. It heats 2200 sq feet and when we have one of these insufferable arctic blasts it costs $10/day for me to stay toasty warm. Probably half that during our normal winter weather.

The pellets I burn are a by-product of an oak flooring wood mill. Since it’s kiln dried saw dust it’s essentially smokeless. Probably any hardwood pellets would burn clean though.

I’m waiting for someone to figure out you could run duct work off one of these things and use it like a conventional furnace.

Just install the duct work and use a small fan to pull the heat through.
 
We are subsidising those pellet imports to the tune of £1.5 million per day at Drax power station, it is the economics of the madhouse. Drax is the biggest biomass power station in the world.

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A big reason why the costs of Althea's wood pellets did not drop along with the price of diesel as she expected.
 
I have a splitter. Wish I had bought it years ago and not waited for the body to tell me to do it
A freekin men. I always thought that using a hammer/maul was faster, but you spend so much time chasing the pieces after you hit them the first time. And for those twisted chunks, nothing beats hydraulics. I've got a system down now. It seems slower than by hand, but after an hour or so...I have a much bigger pile of split wood than I used to.

And the body is much happier.
 
OMGosh. I hand split for about five years, then saw a splitter on sale one day at Lowe's. It's got two flat tires, and I have to keep a bungee cord on the choke lever, but it still runs, lol.

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Looks like the one I bought from Sears. I had to grind down one of the steel cradles on the side with the hydraulic line. It was bolted to the frame in a way that had it contacting the hydraulic line. Before long, it would have rubbed a hole in the line. Aside from that flaw, I love it.
 
Huh...I was going to mention that the frustration I have with the bathrooms is waiting on my tile guy! I refuse to start doing tiles...despite my tile guys telling me I should.

If I were hungry, I'd consider it, but I'm not there yet. And these new porcelain tiles are a pain in the ass!

Buy a good set of knee pads, make all the money yourself. Tile is easy for one with your skills.
 
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