I diubt Rump is guilty of collusion.

Thing1 said:
Anatta, that's a cop out answer.

Russia 100% attempted to meddle w/ our election and influence the outcome. I don't have "specific action" in mind - but I want a President to express in a very public way that it's outrageous & unacceptable. What action should be taken should be something that he decides w/ Congress, but it's a big deal that should not be dismissed or ignored, as Trump has done.
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Seems like you are the one with the copout here. You are "outraged" and you wan the President to be "outraged" too just like you. And you want him "to do something". You don't know what that something is, but you sure as hell want him to "do something"

Of course this is convenient for you as it leaves you ample opportunity to bitch no matter what

On one hand if President Trump doesn't validate your feelings, you can bitch that he doesn't care. Because it is all about your feelings

On another hand, if President Trump does nothing, you can bitch that "he is doing nothing"

And yet on another hand, if he does SOMETHING, you can bitch that what he did "wasn't enough" or was "too much".

This is a perfect world you have created for yourself. You have a prefect zone to bitch no matter what.

Kudos
 
Teflon Don said:
Seems like you are the one with the copout here. You are "outraged" and you wan the President to be "outraged" too just like you. And you want him "to do something". You don't know what that something is, but you sure as hell want him to "do something"

Of course this is convenient for you as it leaves you ample opportunity to bitch no matter what

On one hand if President Trump doesn't validate your feelings, you can bitch that he doesn't care. Because it is all about your feelings

On another hand, if President Trump does nothing, you can bitch that "he is doing nothing"

And yet on another hand, if he does SOMETHING, you can bitch that what he did "wasn't enough" or was "too much".

This is a perfect world you have created for yourself. You have a prefect zone to bitch no matter what.

Kudos
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You're overthinking it.

Think of it more this way: If Hillary had won & the situation was reversed, there wouldn't even be an investigation. Hannity & talk radio would be on this every day, and a GOP Congress would have impeached her already.
 
countryboy said:
Lol. Regurgitating the issued talking point, are we? Heh heh heh

If there's no collusion, what is the justification for the investigation in the first place? What is there to obstruct?
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Jared would have been tarred and feathered by his deranged comrades for making that statement nine months ago lol.
 
floridafan said:
As always you are totally a liar and full of shit
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Yep, that is his new MO.
Spout a lie, then refuse to back it.
In truth he (twatanna) isn't even close.
Trump exacted 38 new business licenses from China for the Trump Organization since becoming POTUS.
As usual anatta couldn't be more incorrect.
 
Jarod said:
I doubt Rump is personality guilty of collusion with the Russians but i think its clear he is guilty of obstructing the investigation.
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Dear Jarod. Would you kindly share with us what has changed your mind from October 30th, 2017? On October 30th 2017, you started the thread from which below I am posting your quotes. When reading these posts of yours, it is difficult to see how you believed at that time there was definitely collusion on the part of the Trump administration up to and including President Trump himself. Now less than two whole months later, you are saying that you don't believe that there is collusion. What has changed your mind? What evidence have you seen/heard that causes this about face on your part? If you would like to confer with an attorney before answering these questions, I completely understand. If you would like to invoke your JPP 5th Amendment Right to not answer so as not to incriminate yourself as a fucking hypocritical idiot, I will completely understand that as well.

Jarod said:
Don Jr thinks you are stupid!!

Collusion is collusion even if it's terribly bungled.
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Jarod said:
We now have official charges against the Trump campaign head for issues relating to secretly lobbying for favorable treatment by our government on behalf of Russians officials.

That is collusion.

Manafort was secretly paid $75,000,000 for lobbying on behalf of the Ukrainian Government, on Russia's behalf. Manafort laundered that money, proving he knew it was illegal.


So, while these charges are not directly related to the Rump campaign, we know Rump HIRED someone who was actively involved in Colluding with the Russians to be his Campaign Head.

That is big, so glad we have a real investigation going on!
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Jarod said:
Bone Spur's campaign manager is now charged with colluding with Russians to manipulate the American Government.


That is what Manafort did for a living when Rump hired him!


And he was good at it, he made $75,000,000 doing it.
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Jarod said:
1) Do you not understand the relationship between "Ukraine and Russia" they are barely separate nations. Their leader, the one Manafort worked for is a Putin Puppet.
2) The Bone Spur campaign said they fired him because they wanted a new guy who knew how to turn votes into delegates.

So the new narrative is that Bone Spur fired Manafort after he set up the inside operation needed?


Why did they hire him? Was it based on his experience setting up collusion operations?
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Jarod said:
1) Who is Brad?

2) Look it up, their are special investigations in the House and Senate, led by Republicans, looking into Rump campaign collusion.
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Jarod said:
Hahahaha, because the Russians told him who to hire to get things set up.
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Jarod said:
Rump hired an expert at Russian collusion to run his campaign, Id say that is related to him.

Funny how he is now being investigated for collusion with Russia, coincidence?
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Jarod said:
I don't care who they were, I care that Rump hired a expert at Russian collusion to set up his campaign. A man who had made his fortune colluding with Russia to manipulate our Government.
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Jarod said:
Why did Trump hire a person whose job and success in life has been to collude with Russia to influence our government?
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Jarod said:
You dont think Rump knew how Manafort made his money before he hired the guy?
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Darth Omar said:
Jared would have been tarred and feathered by his deranged comrades for making that statement nine months ago lol.
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desperation. they know in their deepest recesses of their fevered minds it's a nothing burger-
and the IC leadership is being exposed as having a partisan agenda -so much so some were fired and disciplined
 
noise said:
desperation. they know in their deepest recesses of their fevered minds it's a nothing burger-
and the IC leadership is being exposed as having a partisan agenda -so much so some were fired and disciplined
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Worse than that, it’s showing signs of backfiring in a horrid way.

Horrid, if you’re them.
 
Rune said:
Yep, that is his new MO.
Spout a lie, then refuse to back it.
In truth he (twatanna) isn't even close.
Trump exacted 38 new business licenses from China for the Trump Organization since becoming POTUS.
As usual anatta couldn't be more incorrect.
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how is this illegal?
besides those are trademarks,and unlike the USA Chinese trademaks are awarded first come first serve.

They we already in the works before he was POTUS -they we simply awarded afterwards.

you being the Big Time Inventor, surely understand Patent and Trademark law?? lol
 
Darth Omar said:
Worse than that, it’s showing signs of backfiring in a horrid way.

Horrid, if you’re them.
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I got no sympathy. This was a coup attempt.
Much like the Deep State shenanigans of unmasking , and the hostile Obama action to "preserve evidence"
by ginning up the raw intelligence sharing across the IC..

They only care about killing Trump, and they'll abuse Section 702, and stuff a bunch of political appointees a careerists in DoJ.

so screw them and the Deep State as well
 
Thing1 said:
You're overthinking it.

Think of it more this way: If Hillary had won & the situation was reversed, there wouldn't even be an investigation. Hannity & talk radio would be on this every day, and a GOP Congress would have impeached her already.
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Wrong.

I accept your concession
 
noise said:
how is this illegal?
besides those are trademarks,and unlike the USA Chinese trademaks are awarded first come first serve.

They we already in the works before he was POTUS -they we simply awarded afterwards.

you being the Big Time Inventor, surely understand Patent and Trademark law?? lol
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You just claimed otherwise you lying piece of shit.
 
Darth Omar said:
Based on your own reasoning it doesn’t matter if it’s fake or not.

The DNC/Clinton cabal *paid* for Russian for dirt on Trump and it was related to the election. Furthermore, we now know the conspiracy had players within our own FBI plotting to avert the ‘catastrophe’ of Trump being elected president.

You make get your frog march, after all.
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Pure fantasy. Let me know when you have something to talk about.
 
noise said:
how is this illegal?
besides those are trademarks,and unlike the USA Chinese trademaks are awarded first come first serve.

They we already in the works before he was POTUS -they we simply awarded afterwards.

you being the Big Time Inventor, surely understand Patent and Trademark law?? lol
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You just claimed otherwise you lying piece of shit.
 
Micawber said:
There is a crime for parsing and semantic bullshit though.

Fox’s Geraldo Rivera and Sean Hannity have made the more specific argument that a Trump campaign official would not have broken the law by asking a Russian person to release hacked emails. “Is that a crime, to say ‘release it?'” Hannity asked on his radio show Friday.

“Fuck yeah, potentially,” responds Ekeland. He notes he has defended clients prosecuted for actions comparable to those of the hypothetical Trump aide. Hacking into someone’s email is a federal felony. Encouraging that crime may constitute a conspiracy to violate federal identify theft and computer fraud laws, Ekeland says. (On July 27, at a campaign press conference, Trump essentially encouraged Russia to hack Hillary Clinton: “Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”)




If you "colluded" with Russians to commit a crime, you committed a crime even if the crime does not contain the word colluded.
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that's rich considering the "hacked" emails in question were supposed to be public property anyway.

So maybe the crime should be in the fact that they were hidden from us in the first place? just a thought, ya goof
 
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