A prelude to collusion to affect an American Presidential election.

God bless America said:
You did?

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yes, scroll down to where it says COUNT I
 
God bless America said:
You did?

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Read the entire document. The charges in total stem until 2017 (approximate). The payment portion was approximately through 2016. But that is only one portion of the charges.

That said, it will be interesting to see how this comes back on the Podesta group who was one of the two lobbying firms in DC during the Obama admin while Hillary was Sec State
 
Superfreak said:
Read the entire document. The charges in total stem until 2017 (approximate). The payment portion was approximately through 2016. But that is only one portion of the charges.

That said, it will be interesting to see how this comes back on the Podesta group who was one of the two lobbying firms in DC during the Obama admin while Hillary was Sec State
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You are more interested in that than how it will relate to the President of the United States, classic.
 
What is truly funny is watching CNN continue to call the lobbying firms 'company A & B'... when we know the Podesta group is one of those two.
 
Jarod said:
You are more interested in that than how it will relate to the President of the United States, classic.
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Well Garud... if you paid attention to the indictment, what Manafort is charged with is actions predominantly during the Obama administration. Including funneling work to the Podesta Group to lobby Congress and the White House on behalf of the Pro Russian running for President of Ukraine. So yes, I am more interested in how it ties to actions taking place back then. Thus far there is ZERO evidence of collusion on behalf of the Trump admin. At least as far as the indictment read, it all stems to Manafort's actions prior to his joining Trump for five months.
 
Superfreak said:
I am not asking you to do so. You posted a portion of the indictment. That portion is not all inclusive. I was simply pointing out that the charges do indeed go through 2017.
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I appreciate the thought. I assure you that I am just as interested in the whole truth as our Comrade, Brad Jarod.
 
Real McCoy said:
Who's this "we" have you got a rat in your pocket? I told you before I believe you are an idiot liberal who is so stupid all you can do is let your hate drive you.
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we ?


we are the people who are indicting your traitorous hero

You know the American people

the ones who by 3 million more votes wanted Hilary to be president even though you cheated your asses off
 
aloysious said:
This is all too complicated for me. You say he lobbied on Ukraine's behalf and in the same sentence Russia's behalf. What was the "behalf". In other words what did Ukraine want in Russia's behalf?

Also:
Paul Manafort resigns from Trump campaign
The (Trump) family was particularly troubled by reports of Manafort's involvement with Russia and felt he hadn’t been entirely forthright about his activities overseas, the source said. Family members were also unhappy about changes made to the GOP platform that were seen as beneficial to Russia, which they felt Manafort played a role in, the source added.https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/paul-manafort-resigns-from-trump-campaign-227197

So he was basically fired by trump because of his Russian connections.
That seems to me the exact opposite of any "collusion ".
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pO' rumpf, always the victim, never the victimizer~ & any women that say and different are liars & fake news.......:rolleyes:
 
anatta said:
From what I know Manafort worked for Ukraine's Party of Regional Revival of Ukraine over a period of time.
Remember: Ukraine walks a line between NATO and Russia. Neither party is supposed to militarize it

What Did Ex-Trump Aide Paul Manafort Really Do in Ukraine?
former Trump aide now under federal investigation as part of the Russia probe earned millions working for a corrupt pro-Russian political party that repeatedly disparaged America's most important military alliance.

Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign chief from May to August 2016, spent nearly a decade as a consultant to Ukraine's Party of Regions and its standardbearer, Viktor Yanukovych.

Backed by Russian-leaning oligarchs, the party opposed NATO membership and spouted anti-Western rhetoric that once helped fuel violence against American marines. Its reign ended when Yanukovych fled to Russia after bloody street protests against his personal corruption and pro-Moscow actions.

Manafort has always said he tried to Westernize the party and steer it towards a democratic model, and denies any part in anti-NATO messaging, but Ukrainian critics and U.S. diplomats who served in Kiev aren't so sure.

Manafort also earned millions doing private business deals with some of the oligarchs who backed the party.

As NBC News previously reported, federal officials say that the money Manafort earned from both the party and the oligarchs — and what he did with it — are part of what has drawn the attention of investigators. New details keep emerging as U.S. and Ukrainian officials piece together Manafort's contacts and payments in Ukraine from 2004 to 2014.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-did-ex-trump-aide-paul-manafort-really-do-ukraine-n775431
( read the entire link)
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thanks anatta. I can always rely on you for a mature explanation.:good4u:
 
Jarod said:
1) Do you not understand the relationship between "Ukraine and Russia" they are barely separate nations. Their leader, the one Manafort worked for is a Putin Puppet.
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Yes, apparently better than you. There are two distinct Ukraines with separate languages. One is pro west, the other pro Russia.
Jarod said:
2) The Bone Spur campaign said they fired him because they wanted a new guy who knew how to turn votes into delegates.

So the new narrative is that Bone Spur fired Manafort after he set up the inside operation needed?


Why did they hire him? Was it based on his experience setting up collusion operations?
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Maybe you should be posting here:
Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theories Forum

Here you can post the latest Conspiracies and/or Conspiracy
 
Superfreak said:
Well Garud... if you paid attention to the indictment, what Manafort is charged with is actions predominantly during the Obama administration. Including funneling work to the Podesta Group to lobby Congress and the White House on behalf of the Pro Russian running for President of Ukraine. So yes, I am more interested in how it ties to actions taking place back then. Thus far there is ZERO evidence of collusion on behalf of the Trump admin. At least as far as the indictment read, it all stems to Manafort's actions prior to his joining Trump for five months.
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Why did Trump hire a person whose job and success in life has been to collude with Russia to influence our government?
 
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