Ben Shapiro speaking at Cal

Mott the Hoople said:
I honestly don't know. Shapiro later recanted that comment but what's funny here is the Reich Wing running to his defense y splitting hairs between a bigot and a racist. Now that's ride on the little yellow bus funny.
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Well, it turned out he is neither so there's that lol.
 
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Darth Omar said:
But the left always needs a boogie man lol.

Advocating transfer of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza isn't racism or bigotry---that would depend on the motivation for advocating it.

It's wrong-headed.

But it's just as wrong-headed [and intellectually lazy] to call that racism or bigotry. The same thing goes on with similar issues in this country. For example, there are several good and non-racist reasons to advocate *against* open immigration policy.

Starting with sanity lol. Sanity never fails to be a good basis for public policy. Nations have borders for a reason and any nation that effectively opens its borders to mass immigration will cease to be a nation.

But advocating too ambitiously for sane immigration policy can get you branded a 'racist' by the left.
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LOL...Yes....the left always needs boogeymen like BLM, ANTIFA, illegal aliens, feminazis, Muslims, Socialist, snowflakes, indebted college students, hippies, gays and lesbians, atheist, ACORN, Obama and Pope Francis?

Lord you can be funny when you don't mean to be! LOL

And yes to forcibly remove all of a specifically identified group of people from a location where they live for their opposition or because you desire their land is by any definition is inhumane, immoral and bigoted.
 
cawacko said:
Props to TTQ64 for saying she doesn't do right wing things like back up her argument with facts. If she wants to call someone racist she will, facts be damned
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Allow me to interpret for you.

A. Backing up an argument is hardly a right-wing thing. :0) That's a joke.

B. She doesn't give a fuck about what the right-wing thinks or who they deem 'racist.' I've said the same thing. My question to you is why do you think we should give a fuck? Please answer that.

C. The right-wing doesn't give a fuck about facts. Exactly what 'facts' are there to birtherism?

Props to TTQ because she speaks directly to an evil that is all around you that good people like you have become so comfortable with.
 
blackascoal said:
B. She doesn't give a fuck about what the right-wing thinks or who they deem 'racist.' I've said the same thing. My question to you is why do you think we should give a fuck? Please answer that.

C. The right-wing doesn't give a fuck about facts.
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you've just shown you don't give a fuck about giving us any facts......
 
noise said:
A decade later, however, Shapiro reversed his position. In an article published on March 13, 2013, Shapiro wrote, "Some on the right have proposed population transfer from the Gaza Strip or West Bank as a solution. This is both inhumane and impractical. Moving millions of Palestinians out of areas they have known for their entire lives will certainly not pave the way to peace" and while "both right and left agree that a population separation is necessary," he proposes that Israel "has no choice but to weather [the anti-Israeli propaganda]" until a realistic solution comes to light.[28]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro

he wrote some books about leftist Holly wood and Academia...my curiosity is satisfied. standard issue conservative
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Yup... now tell me this isn't bigotry.
 
noise said:
the day I decided to ignore that claptrap was a liberation day.
Since they throw around the term "racist" at the drop of a hat because everyone kowtows to that garbage-
it gets traction.
screw that NOISE
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Then you won't mind if we say fuck what right-wingers think isn't racist. Fuck that.

Feel free to define society and racism however you se fit, just don't act surprised when we do the same thing.

You don't think someone is racist .. why should we give a rats ass about what you don't think is racist? That question goes directly to the heart of this conversation.

You're a right-winger .. racism is the party you vote for. You're comfortable with racists. Look no further than this board for validation of that truth.

I'm not calling you a racist .. but you're comfortable with them on your team. You accommodate the evil you're comfortable with by ignoring it and looking for moral equivalency on the other side, where there is none.
 
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Mott the Hoople said:
Yup... now tell me this isn't bigotry.
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As explained previously, it would depend on the motivation for the transfer.

If it's an ethnic animus, it's bigotry. If the reasons are more practical, it's not.

For example, the people of Sweden are suffering because their government allowed too many Syrians and North Africans into their country. Rape numbers are way up and etc.

Would they be 'bigots' for advocating a re-transfer of their non-indigenous population back to where they came from?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
LOL...Yes....the left always needs boogeymen like BLM, ANTIFA, illegal aliens, feminazis, Muslims, Socialist, snowflakes, indebted college students, hippies, gays and lesbians, atheist, ACORN, Obama and Pope Francis?

Lord you can be funny when you don't mean to be! LOL

And yes to forcibly remove all of a specifically identified group of people from a location where they live for their opposition or because you desire their land is by any definition is inhumane, immoral and bigoted.
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Not to mention a crime against humanity since the 1990s.
 
Micawber said:
OK, I'm ignorant on this guy. Never heard of him. I don't listen to conservatives so that splains that. I respect BAC so if he says this guy is a racist I put great stock in that assessment.
So now I have read ONE interview with him in Slate.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...t_right_and_why_ the_left_needs_to_turn.html

I must say he seemed reasonable here. ^^^

He hates dump, he hates the alt right. He has some vision of where he thinks the lines are drawn. I don't know because all that conservative crap is inside baseball to me.

So, BAC, I'm wondering what is the rest of the story?
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Sorry, I missed this post yesterday.

Don't be confused by this guy's 'rejection' of the alt-right. He rejects them because they hate Jews, not because they're racist.

At some point, America is going to have to deal with the racism of Zionism. Let me qualify that with the truth that a great many Jews, including many Israeli Jews, stand against the racism of Zionism. so in this case, the cover of what is anti-Semitic does not work.

Shapiro isn't just a racist ..

Ben Shapiro's Homophobia

The courageous decision of NBA player Jason Collins to come out of the closet got me thinking about Ben Shapiro, the right-wing pundit who tweeted about him: “So Jason Collins is a hero because he's gay? Our standard has dropped quite a bit since Normandy.”

Considering that Shapiro has also tweeted that Newt Gingrich and Mark Levin are heroes, we'd have to say that his standards have dropped quite a bit since Normandy. But Shapiro also tweeted, “@adamcarolla is my hero.” I hope that all us, liberal and conservative, can agree that anyone who regards Adam Carolla as a “hero” has permanently given up the right to defend the word.

But this certainly isn't the first case of Shapiro being homophobic. Back in 2003, Shapiro wrote, “If you pay tuition, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda. If you pay taxes, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda. If your child majors in English, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda.”

I discovered that quote while writing a review of Shapiro's first book, Brainwashed.

Shapiro's book about the evil liberals in academia unintentionally disproved much of what he claimed. Here's what I wrote about Brainwashed:

Shapiro admits, “I don’t believe that large numbers of conservative students are purposefully targeted for grade penalization.” Shapiro, who seemingly cannot write a paragraph without making a factual error, a distortion of a statistic, or a specious argument, somehow managed to get good enough grades from all of his left-wing brainwashing professors to be admitted to Harvard Law School.

Shapiro, to me, reflects why there's a growing gap between left and right on campus. Leftist students who do well in school and score high on standardized tests tend to go to graduate school where they are trained to explain and defend their ideas, and then become professors. Right-wing students who are challenged by their professors reject the criticism on ideological grounds. Conservatives (like Shapiro) with high-level *test-taking talents tend to go to law school, and then are embraced by the world of right-wing commentary and talk radio. Instead of learning how to examine the facts, they are taught how to be outrageous. As I noted in my book about Rush Limbaugh, they realize that facts don't matter as much as assertions, the more over-the-top, the better.

That's partly why conservative intellectual culture in America is becoming so anti-science, anti-reason, anti-education, and openly bigoted. While they falsely condemn academia as being a world of leftist groupthink, conservatives like Shapiro live firmly in the realm of right-wing groupthink. In his most recent, and even dumber, book, Bullies, Shapiro fantasizes about the terrible imaginary repression of conservatives and openly endorses bullying liberals to fight against the victimization of the right.

The immature rantings of Shapiro as a college student weren't something he grew out of. Instead, his dumbest beliefs were reinforced by a right-wing culture that nurtured every nutty idea he had, and pressured him never to stray from a far right ideology. As a result, Ben Shapiro has become a professional idiot. And Shapiro's success in that job certainly inspires other conservatives to reject the difficult path of long years in graduate school with little hope of a faculty job, when it so much easier to rant and rave with little care about the arguments you're making. That's why Shapiro's first reaction to Jason Collins' announcement reflects the bigotry and the idiocy of the far right today
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2013/4/29/1205635/-Ben-Shapiro-s-Homophobia

Note to modern feminists: sexist men never had it so good. .. Ben Shapiro



HE LIES.

The assertion is that 1 in 5 women on college campuses face some form of sexual assault, NOT RAPE .. thus, he bases his larger lie on a smaller lie.

Controversial 1-in-5 sexual assault statistic validated in new national survey
http://college.usatoday.com/2015/09...t-statistic-validated-in-new-national-survey/
 
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