Hillary Clinton says the Electoral College 'needs to be eliminated'

[TTQ64]

nope. we are not a pure democracy.
we are bound by the balance of power between the states / feds / "we the people".

The genius of the electoral college is that it factors all this in to elect the president

Is nothing but a way for racist white men to have a say in society.

Otherwise no one would give two fucks about them. They would never win!

 

[Getin the ring]

What motivated reasoning. The electoral college is retarded and has done more to damage our republic than Al-Qaeda. You only support it because it gives you power. IMO the people have no responsibility to recognize the results of an election not approved by the American people. A president who does not win the popular vote is no president at all, because power derives from the people.

give it a rest, and you only don't support it because it didnt work for you this time, not fooling anyone here

you have to have the electoral college otherwise population centers alone pick presidents, that's moronish

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

No country on Earth voted for Trump to be president. Hillary Clinton was the only person who America elected. Yet he stole power anyway. And you support this damage to the fabric of our republic just because it's favorable to the power of the coalition that the electoral college exaggerates the vote of rural whites and suppresses the votes of minorities who live in urban areas. The electoral college is apartheid.

 

[Getin the ring]

No country on Earth voted for Trump to be president. Hillary Clinton was the only person who America elected. Yet he stole power anyway. And you support this damage to the fabric of our republic just because it's favorable to the power of the coalition that the electoral college exaggerates the vote of rural whites and suppresses the votes of minorities who live in urban areas. The electoral college is apartheid.

you're not really this stupid ^^^^.....right?

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

All rightist arguments for the electoral college ultimately reduces to one unstated truth:
WE SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE WANT POWER

The voice of America is irrelevant. America is simply a piece of territory governed by fascists against its will, it is not a country or a people under the electoral college.

 

[TTQ64]

this whole argument is so stupid in that candidates campaign completely differently in trying to win the EC vs the popular vote. Everyone knows the rules ahead of time. There's a reason they don't spend time in CA for example. It doesn't matter whether you win the state by one vote or five million. If it was a popular vote election candidates would spend a lot more time here.

When you defend the racist EC it makes you look like a racist..............just saying. If you don't believe the EC is racist then you don't know your history, or don't Want to know.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I can assure you that had the roles been reversed and Trump lost the electoral college, you would be DEMANDING, an end to this method of electing a president.
Yes, the electoral college was the reason for her loss, after racking up a 3 million vote plurality.

If Trump had lost the electoral college he would've called for revolution. If he had lost the electoral college and the popular vote he would've called for revolution, and all the rightists would've been on board too. They are such hypocrites. No matter what, all through my life I have opposed the electoral college. Rightists opinions change based on whatever gives them power, because that's all they care about.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

The bolded is fairly melodramatic.

Who cares about dirt?

California is 10% of the national population. Under a popular vote system, it's share of control over who's president would be... 10%. Oh the horror! We're basically governed solely by California that way!

 

[Getin the ring]

If Trump had lost the electoral college he would've called for revolution. If he had lost the electoral college and the popular vote he would've called for revolution, and all the rightists would've been on board too. They are such hypocrites. No matter what, all through my life I have opposed the electoral college. Rightists opinions change based on whatever gives them power, because that's all they care about.

maybe you are this ^^^ stupid

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy." - Donald J. Trump, self-declared 45th "President" of the United States

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

as the original intent was to ensure that the rights of the minority wasn't obliterated by the mass of the majority, I'm guessing that this is the liberals way of saying fuck the minority??????

The rights of the majority are being obliterated by the ignorant mass of the minority. The counties Trump won only account for a third of our GDP; yet somehow they think they have a right to ruin the economic powerhouses that voted for Clinton.

 

[TTQ64]

Notice how only racist white men defend the EC.

They can't win without it. Just like they can't win without guns, hate and greed.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Majority rule is like 5 wolves and 4 sheep deciding what's for lunch.

Minority rule is like 1 sheep and 100 wolves voting on what to have for lunch, and the wolves vote is all the matters.

 

[Getin the ring]

question,
how do you nimwits feel about majority rules on Gay Marriage, or Transgenders using the bathroom of their "identity", or Gays in the Military, or any number of issues where the majority is not the rule

 

[Darth Omar]

The rights of the majority are being obliterated by the ignorant mass of the minority. The counties Trump won only account for a third of our GDP; yet somehow they think they have a right to ruin the economic powerhouses that voted for Clinton.

Well, stop whining about it and pass a constitutional amendment to get it changed.

Except that's not done democratically either lol. Sucks, huh?

 

[TTQ64]

Well that certainly tilts it in favor of CA.

And you wonder why you are called a racist, racist.

 

[Sailor]

Well, stop whining about it and pass a constitutional amendment to get it changed.

Except that's not done democratically either lol. Sucks, huh?

Astute and accurate. That might confuse a few on this board though.

 

[Micawber]

The information on the distortion caused by the fact that states have electors based upon congressional delegations rather than population is provided here:

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n...450119297/2008votersperelector.pdf?1450119297

As you can see, certain states such as Wyoming and Alaska have far more clout than they should. But they still don't have a helluva lot, since they are barren wastelands.

The real culprit here is how 48 states decide their electors. All states are winner take all except Maine and Nebraska. That has the potential to perturb the result away from an equal rights ideal more so than the fact that we toss a couple electors to Alaska despite that nobody wants to be there.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

you're not really this stupid ^^^^.....right?

YES, YES HE IS.

More's the pity.

 

[Sailor]

The information on the distortion caused by the fact that states have electors based upon congressional delegations rather than population is provided here:

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n...450119297/2008votersperelector.pdf?1450119297

As you can see, certain states such as Wyoming and Alaska have far more clout than they should. But they still don't have a helluva lot, since they are barren wastelands.

The real culprit here is how 48 states decide their electors. All states are winner take all except Maine and Nebraska. That has the potential to perturb the result away from an equal rights ideal more so than the fact that we toss a couple electors to Alaska despite that nobody wants to be there.

You are EXACTLY the reason for the electoral college. Thanks for making its value and need better than anyone could argue.