Are Confederate soldiers considered US vets?

philly rabbit said:
Under the US constitution, nobody is hung for treason without due process in-which general Lee and the confederacy never got.

The confederacy was never tried and convicted of treason in court.

If the government charges me with treason and throws me in jail then I demand due process. I want to be charged with the crime by a judge and I want a lawyer standing next to me ready to defend my constitutional rights.

Jefferson Davis, the president of the confederacy, General Robert E. Lee and the rest of the confederacy were all never given due process and their day in court.
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Lee was not tried because Grant alone, who had enormous influence in Washington, got him off.
All of congress and Johnson were more than prepared to convict Lee for treason and see him hung.
 
philly rabbit said:
He said: Under US law Lee was considered a treasonous criminal and a traitor to his country.

General Lee and the confederacy were never convicted of treason in a court of law.

You can give all your opinions on General Lee being a traitor all you like but the fact remains that General Lee was never convicted of such in a court of law.
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Lee's guilt as a traitor was a foregone conclusion by all of the US government, and it's people based on Lee's actions and history...
It wasn't even controversial...
Grant alone saved Lee from the gallows by blocking his trial.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
You prove what we know you are by refusing to denounce racism and nazism. A non-racist or an anti-nazist would denounce those beliefs in a heartbeat, you can't because they are part of your core, racist.
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Sorry; but I don't march to your orders and it's still up to you to provide the proof. :D
 
noise said:
WTF are you babbling about? It's a core issue of how the US gov't views Confederate soldiers.
Nothing to do w/Trump

( the links above are edited. The first goes more into the C flag and the 2nd then goes into opinion.
the sources say the same about the law)
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Let us not forget for how long confederate cemetaries, monuments and battlefields have been in existence. While some insist that hate groups like white nationalists/ supremacists and the rabid mob counter protesters feel emboldened since Trump's election, I stipulate that much of the past administration's discourse is to blame, and it is why a guy like Trump was elected. Of course he makes the perfect scapegoat, he is the perfect example of male white privilege, emphasis white.
Trump and Obama are symptoms of a disease that is rooted much deeper. We have to ask ourselves what we can do to heal the wounds, to cure the disease instead of expanding and widening the gash.
Hatred isn't the answer, destruction isn't the answer, nor are ignorance and violence. I see both sides thumping their chest and engaging in hatefulness instead of coming together. The past will be the past, regardless of statues and monuments, the present and future is ours. We can set an example by being different, by being loving and compassionate and tolerant, even if we don't all think and look alike.
Be better, don't be just as hateful and ignorant and vile and despicable as the ones who were hateful and ignorant and vile and despicable.
 
Lovebug said:
Let us not forget for how long confederate cemetaries, monuments and battlefields have been in existence. While some insist that hate groups like white nationalists/ supremacists and the rabid mob counter protesters feel emboldened since Trump's election, I stipulate that much of the past administration's discourse is to blame, and it is why a guy like Trump was elected. Of course he makes the perfect scapegoat, he is the perfect example of male white privilege, emphasis white.
Trump and Obama are symptoms of a disease that is rooted much deeper. We have to ask ourselves what we can do to heal the wounds, to cure the disease instead of expanding and widening the gash.
Hatred isn't the answer, destruction isn't the answer, nor are ignorance and violence. I see both sides thumping their chest and engaging in hatefulness instead of coming together. The past will be the past, regardless of statues and monuments, the present and future is ours. We can set an example by being different, by being loving and compassionate and tolerant, even if we don't all think and look alike.
Be better, don't be just as hateful and ignorant and vile and despicable as the ones who were hateful and ignorant and vile and despicable.
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I appreciate your sentiments. Unfortunately the 2 main partys only play to their base
I'm not going to list examples of which are more egregious -long term they both are.

One of the reasons I voter for Trump was because he was an outsider- Bernie was also to an extent,
and certainly compared to Ma Clinton.

Do not support political parties is what i do -if given the choice I look towards independent candidates
or vote out the stale sameness that infects them all once they get to the Swamp. Never give the parties any money
 
philly rabbit said:
Under the US constitution, nobody is hung for treason without due process in-which general Lee and the confederacy never got.

The confederacy was never tried and convicted of treason in court.

If the government charges me with treason and throws me in jail then I demand due process. I want to be charged with the crime by a judge and I want a lawyer standing next to me ready to defend my constitutional rights.

Jefferson Davis, the president of the confederacy, General Robert E. Lee and the rest of the confederacy were all never given due process and their day in court.
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because they then would have been hung by the neck until dead.
 
noise said:
I appreciate your sentiments. Unfortunately the 2 main partys only play to their base
I'm not going to list examples of which are more egregious -long term they both are.

One of the reasons I voter for Trump was because he was an outsider- Bernie was also to an extent,
and certainly compared to Ma Clinton.

Do not support political parties is what i do -if given the choice I look towards independent candidates
or vote out the stale sameness that infects them all once they get to the Swamp. Never give the parties any money
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I don't support any party either, and it is why I am an independent voter.
 
Threedee said:
If you find my anti-southern/pro-American sentiment to be offensive, why was I not already there years ago?
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Ohhhh, threadbanned from USDummies threads, how devastating for you. I've had him on ignore for so long, I forget he's here. I'm sure you'll recover from this, in about two seconds :)
 
Covfefe said:
Ohhhh, threadbanned from USDummies threads, how devastating for you. I've had him on ignore for so long, I forget he's here. I'm sure you'll recover from this, in about two seconds :)
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I'm just amazed he never followed his buddies into permaban. And he thinks I'm obnoxious, even though I've never earned myself so much as a 24 hour suspension.
 
Covfefe said:
Ohhhh, threadbanned from USDummies threads, how devastating for you. I've had him on ignore for so long, I forget he's here. I'm sure you'll recover from this, in about two seconds :)
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WHAT - RACIST RANA has me on ignore.
I'm devastated.
DEVESTATED I TELL YOU. :D
 
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