impotent old man threatens NKorea if they make threats~unlike the 1,000's in the past

No. I'm saying that trump confronted NK as his first order of business, and Lil Kim laughed at him.

Real world leaders know that he should be ignored. As has been outlined already in this thread....NK will have a nuke, and they'll feel important. Crazy or not, Kim isn't suicidal.
China is the key, they will only do something truly ground changing if they have no choice.
 
No. I'm saying that trump confronted NK as his first order of business, and Lil Kim laughed at him.

Real world leaders know that he should be ignored. As has been outlined already in this thread....NK will have a nuke, and they'll feel important. Crazy or not, Kim isn't suicidal.

That's speculation, you don't know his mental state.

So, you're basically gambling he won't fire a nuke at us.
 
There is no diplomacy with NK..we agree. But the armada was an idiotic idea. China was an afterthought, but that's how trump's little mind works.

You'd never know it because the media is obsessed with all things Russia, but Trump and Tillerson scored a pretty significant diplomatic victory by bringing China and Russia in on a set of sanctions against NK.

So we now have strong sanctions AND the threat of real military action going against Bowl Cut. This has never happened and it's doubtful it would have happened under Hillary or any other republican.
 
That's speculation, you don't know his mental state.

So, you're basically gambling he won't fire a nuke at us.

We take that gamble every day with the soviet union, China, Pakistan, India, Israel, GB and Tazmania. Why not NK or Iran?
Hell, Trump lights some off towards the Russians and the doomsday device kicks in.
 
I do not think little Kim has a clue. He is insane. That being said, when was the last time you ever heard of any school kids practicing duck and cover for a possible nuclear threat to this country? Generations of people, including leaders, have no clue. None.
That is what should be worrying people the most, not the rhetoric.

i dont think he's insane, i think it's just an act. For example the stories of him golfing and getting 15 holes in one, or the fact that he doesn't poop, are all there to make him seem completely comical to us when in actuality he's a psychopathic killer
 
What did we "underestimate" about Trump this time? It's being reported that his remark was completely of the cuff - and this is his m.o. Do you think he's that much of a genius that this stuff just comes to him in a split second, with all of the ramifications considered...the possible outcomes, the international reaction, the potential dangers?

We don't underestimate him. You completely overrate him.

A big AMEN! to this. I just don't understand anybody believing he's really a genius playing 4-D chess. Has nobody looked at his life, which he was happy to live in public before now? The man is an intellectual zero. There's no "there" there. The only thing he gets high marks for is bullshitting and even that only appeals to a certain segment of the population.
 
McMasters, Kelly and Mattis are very much hinged, so why are you so worried?

McMasters, Kelly, Mattis and Tillerson.

Quite the team for an unhinged president to pick lol. I don't know when we had a more solid team.

Along a similar vein, Trump listens to his military people [its an unhinged thing I guess lol] so he wouldn't move unless they think it can be done.
 
i dont think he's insane, i think it's just an act. For example the stories of him golfing and getting 15 holes in one, or the fact that he doesn't poop, are all there to make him seem completely comical to us when in actuality he's a psychopathic killer

Duck and cover was psychological palliative care. It was not a real strategy to limit injury and death. I lived 15 miles from the pentagon for 18 years of my live. We had those air raid drills.
To the point, the fact that the government was less transparent then and lied more doesn't mean the existential threat today is less real. More Sailor fail
 
We take that gamble every day with the soviet union, China, Pakistan, India, Israel, GB and Tazmania. Why not NK or Iran?
Hell, Trump lights some off towards the Russians and the doomsday device kicks in.

With the exception of the Iranians, no one is on the same crazy scale as Bowl Cut.

You don't know what your talking about.
 
McMasters, Kelly and Mattis are very much hinged, so why are you so worried?

Because of his penchant for shooting first, and then leaving people like the above to clean up his messes. According to our news none of them knew he was going to make that doomsday threat to NK.
 
You'd never know it because the media is obsessed with all things Russia, but Trump and Tillerson scored a pretty significant diplomatic victory by bringing China and Russia in on a set of sanctions against NK.

So we now have strong sanctions AND the threat of real military action going against Bowl Cut. This has never happened and it's doubtful it would have happened under Hillary or any other republican.
Those sanctions were an immense change to the status quo, it is rare that the Security Council votes 15-0 on any issue.
 
Because of his penchant for shooting first, and then leaving people like the above to clean up his messes. According to our news none of them knew he was going to make that doomsday threat to NK.
I don't think we can really know that for sure. It was classic willy waving, probably the only thing Kim Wrong-un understands.
 
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