This is doing the rounds in the UK

Irish said:
Its stupid faux hysteria made up from a SJW. What more do you need to know?
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Wel I started out trying to establish the facts but just ended with mostly bullshit and bluster. Micawber is the only one giving a straight answer.

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Milagro said:
Remind me, what did you say? At least answer this question, would the relatives of people who were treated in hospital but died of their wounds be billed?

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Yes they should be billed. Death while tragic shouldn't negate payment for services rendered.

What pathetic bullshit.

If you care so much volunteer your time. Get trained as an EMT. Better yet go buy and ambulance and drive people around "for free" using your own money.
 
Milagro said:
How the fuck does anybody justify $1500 for a short ambulance journey?

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I don't profess to know the entire cost structure for an ambulance company but I can hazard a guess.

Cost of ambulance - I don't think they grow on the ambulance tree
Cost of insurance on the vehicle
Probably two EMTs and a driver making $25/hour each
Fuel - diesel $3.50/gallon
Maintenance on the ambulance
Liability insurance
Building to store ambulance
Office building staff to coordinate scheduling
Human Resources
Taxes
Supplies to stock the ambulance

Those are just a few.

But as I said. If Althea was supposedly "stable" he could have made the choice to travel another way and not pay what he thought was an exorbitant fee.

Did he ask up front what it cost? If not why not?
 
Micawber said:
Bureaucratic inertia and the need for licensure. I suppose you could call uber and use the free market to tamp down on the prices. Why are the prices for screwdrivers so high just because they will be used in a classified submarine requisitioned by the DoD? Same. Why aren't you complaining about that? Oh, because it doesn't fit your uber patriotic bomb the fuck out of everyone, large patriotic Ford F150 grill, don't tread on me, cheat on your wife redneck life choice!
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The need for licensure is driven by the gobblement you love to protect you from all of life's ills.

Businesses charge the gobblement more because the gobblement doesn't spend its own money. It isn't a hard concept.

The gobblement has zero incentive to be efficient
 
Milagro said:
OK got that, but couldn't an argument be made that terrorist attacks are not acts of God, hence the Federal government is liable due to failing in its duty of care to US citizens.

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Actually it is an act of war so technically it could be argued that private insurance need not pay at all, however,
as proven by the U.S. response to 9-11, clearly the government would and did pay, therefore the thesis of the OP is false.
 
Milagro said:
No that is not true, there has been a major crackdown on so-called health tourism in recent years. However you can tell you're a lawyer though, you are just not used to giving straight answers.

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????......my comment had nothing at all to do with health tourism.......
 
Milagro said:
Remind me, what did you say? At least answer this question, would the relatives of people who were treated in hospital but died of their wounds be billed?

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nobody would be responsible for the bills of another person unless they signed something agreeing to pay the bill.
 
Milagro said:
How the fuck does anybody justify $1500 for a short ambulance journey?

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you should see the bill for taking a prematurely birthed child to a specialized hospital by helicopter......its not like England where they put you in the back of a buggy pulled by two mules......
 
Rune said:
Actually it is an act of war so technically it could be argued that private insurance need not pay at all, however,
as proven by the U.S. response to 9-11, clearly the government would and did pay, therefore the thesis of the OP is false.
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Well there you go an honest answer from an unexpected source.

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Milagro said:
Wel I started out trying to establish the facts but just ended with mostly bullshit and bluster. Micawber is the only one giving a straight answer.

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lol......he lies to you and we tell you the truth but you believe him and not us.......get your head out of your ass.......
 
Milagro said:
I am willing to believe that wouldn't happen in a truly bad situation like Manchester. So can somebody sensible answer?
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It probably would happen.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
not to mention the simple fact of the per mile cost of owning and operating an ambulance......
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Yeah yeah blah blah yet 30 odd years ago they were free!

"Thirty years ago ambulance rides were generally provided free of charge, underwritten by taxpayers as a municipal service or provided by volunteers. Today, like the rest of the health care system in the United States, most ambulance services operate as businesses and contribute to America’s escalating medical bills. Often, they are a high-cost prequel to expensive emergency room visits."

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/...was-expensive-look-at-the-ambulance-bill.html



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Milagro said:
Yeah yeah blah blah yet 30 odd years ago they were free!

"Thirty years ago ambulance rides were generally provided free of charge, underwritten by taxpayers as a municipal service or provided by volunteers. Today, like the rest of the health care system in the United States, most ambulance services operate as businesses and contribute to America’s escalating medical bills. Often, they are a high-cost prequel to expensive emergency room visits."

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/...was-expensive-look-at-the-ambulance-bill.html



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That's total bullshit. Ambulances are still taxpayer paid. It's the insurance companies fucking up our system.
 
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