FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser

Somewhere there is Probable Cause that Carter Page was engaged in the commission of a felony.

I would hate to be him right now.....

There is also reason for the FBI to investigating Rump for a felony, otherwise they would not be doing it.

Fair enough. I would hope that, unlike the Republican driven fiasco of Whitewater, this investigation sticks with Trump's finances, information & hacking, and coordination with Russia to get elected and does not stray into infidelity and bullshit. I do realize, however, politics is a race to the bottom and that Democrats are always playing catchup and hand wringing. Having a conscience is not advantageous.
 
My advice is don't get so cozy with Russia when running for Potus, otherwise you are likely to have your discussions legally intercepted, and if you do, and if that reveals probable cause that a crime was committed, a warrant will issue.

again it has nothing to do with Russia at this point. If Trump had a conversation with Carter Page both americans it was surveiled.
 
when you surveil someone in a political campaign you are going to get political things as he will be talking with the other people in the campaign. It is impossible not to. The obama staffers admitted they then leaked and shared that info and Obama himself made it easier for them.

Ridiculous and incredibly silly.

There is absolutely nothing sacrosanct about a political campaign. If a crime or suspicion of a crime occurs, it will be investigated.

The notion that the FBI had to be brought in to defeat Trump is just too fucking silly. If American intelligence wanted to defeat him, he wouldn't be the president.

For someone who supposedly isn't a Trump supporter, you sure spend a lot of time supporting him.
 
horseshit.

in a republic such as our own, elections are are absolutely sacrosanct.

if you are going to use big words, use them correctly.

He said political campaign not sacrosanct, you changed that to elections to say they are. You both obviously know the meaning of the high school SAT level word, but in your case, you contradicted a statement he did not exactly make. Dishonest or inattentive to detail?

Campaigns are known to be dirty and elections are supposed to be clean. In this respect, you are both right.
 
Incorrect, a warrant does not issue without probable cause, probable cause does not exist without some evidence, the warrant is then to search for more evidence. In order for the warrant to issue there must be actual evidence. I'm sorry, you lack the NATO top secret security clearances to view my evidence of coordination between the Orange Tit and Putin.
FISA warrants are a joke. Please don't talk about "probable cause". They are the equivalent of a grand jury
 
if actual evidence exists - why keep leaking things that aren't illegal, but just have bad optics?

I have seen enough false intelligence to last a life time - wake me up when proof is released
that goes to Rice and Obama's lowering the bar on sharing NSA raw intelligence; as well as ginning up raw intelligence into reports
 
horseshit.

in a republic such as our own, elections are are absolutely sacrosanct.

if you are going to use big words, use them correctly.

:0) That from the moron who doesn't want Russian intrusion into an American election investigated.

You are incredibly ignorant.
 
this is definetly what we want to talk about. Think about what this means and incidental collection.

The left has always maintained Trump associates could only be incidentally targetted if they spoke to Russians. Now if someone speaks to Carter Page, a person inside the campaign, and an american citizen he could be incidentally targeted.
between "incidental collection" and C.Page being wiretapped -along with ginned up reports by Obamatrons,
and Rice's unmasking.....Trump and Associates have been wiretapped more then the Mafia
 
horseshit.

in a republic such as our own, elections are are absolutely sacrosanct.

if you are going to use big words, use them correctly.

That's right, punk. That's why it's important to look into whether and how much the Russians fucked around with the election.
 
FISA warrants are a joke. Please don't talk about "probable cause". They are the equivalent of a grand jury

They are over your paygrade and mine. You lack ability to make that assessment. I get your comparison though. Yes they are one sided. Doesn't make sense to warn your target that you want to trap committing a crime.

Bottom line is that a warrant was obtained so the 4th is satisfied, no matter what you think of the process. If a crime was committed, that evidence is admissible. No fruit of the poisonous tree, no motion to exclude on that basis. Hang em high!:good4u:
 
between "incidental collection" and C.Page being wiretapped -along with ginned up reports by Obamatrons,
and Rice's unmasking.....Trump and Associates have been wiretapped more then the Mafia

Probably equally corrupt. Just how clean do you think are New York City real estate developers, and from that the subset that specialize in casino gambling, and from that the subset of the multiple bankrupt who brag about serial sexual assault enabled by their celebrity, suffer from a whopping case of Peter Pan complex, who make outlandish claims to competency and erudition while evidencing none whatsoever, who spew daggers from one side of the mouth while whispering sweet nothings from the other.

That duplicitous narcissist is going down. It's his own fault, and yours (for electing him)
 
Completely wrong moron.
The FISA court does not hand out warrants lightly.
IDIOT

FISA Court Has Rejected .03 Percent Of All Government Surveillance Requests
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/06/fisa-court-nsa-spying-opinion-reject-request
After last week's revelations extensive National Security Agency surveillance of phone and internet communications, President Barack Obama made it a point to assure Americans that, not to worry, there is plenty of oversight of his administration's snooping programs. "We've got congressional oversight and judicial oversight," he said Friday, referring in part to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC), which was created in 1979 to oversee Department of Justice requests for surveillance warrants against foreign agents suspected of espionage or terrorism in the United States. But the FISC has declined just 11 of the more than 33,900 surveillance requests made by the government in 33 years, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday. That's a rate of .03 percent, which raises questions about just how much judicial oversight is actually being provided.
 
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