FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser

[anatta]

They are over your paygrade and mine. You lack ability to make that assessment. I get your comparison though. Yes they are one sided. Doesn't make sense to warn your target that you want to trap committing a crime.

Bottom line is that a warrant was obtained so the 4th is satisfied, no matter what you think of the process. If a crime was committed, that evidence is admissible. No fruit of the poisonous tree, no motion to exclude on that basis. Hang em high!

get the fuck out of you statist. God help any of your clients who seek relief under the Bill of Rights.
"satisfy the 4th my arse"

They are a rubber stamp,and they are manipulated by the Deep State for the benefit of the Deep State

 

[anatta]

hey poser -

"The Fisa Amendments Act of 2008, effectively gives the President - now President Obama - the authority to run surveillance programs similar in effect to the warrantless surveillance program [secretly implemented by George Bush in late 2001]. That is because New Fisa no longer requires individualized targets in all surveillance programs. Some programs may be 'vacuum cleaner' programs that listen to a great many different calls (and read a great many e-mails) without any requirement of a warrant directed at a particular person as long as no US person is directly targeted as the object of the program. . . .

yep. gross collection of metadata - warrantless wiretap is an abomination and a clear violation of the 4th

 

[anatta]

when you surveil someone in a political campaign you are going to get political things as he will be talking with the other people in the campaign. It is impossible not to. The obama staffers admitted they then leaked and shared that info and Obama himself made it easier for them.

I think that is correct the way you wrote it.
Rice's abuse of the unmasking process combined with Obama's allowances of raw NSA data to be ginned up to a "report" level by simply asking about the raw data in briefings (etc.)
ensured many more reports circulating among many more "eyes",
which make leaking much more common and easier to publish as an IC "report".

The excuse was to preserve "evidence" of Russian collusion - it was purely political,
and an example of how the IC and it's leadership has become a politicized Deep State

 

[domer76]

Hoisted on his own petard.

Another RW Dumbfuck.

 

[zymurgy]

That's right, punk. That's why it's important to look into whether and how much the Russians fucked around with the election.

Russia releasing the diry secrets of the DNC is something we should thank them for.

our own corrupt Media turned a blind eye to 8 years of government abuse of power as we meddle in countless elections abroad.

 

[domer76]

if nixon had the FISA court we would not have had watergate

Lol

Another "if/would" piece of suppositional bullshit. Pal, you don't know shit from shinola on your concocted if/would.

Hypothesis Contrary to Fact = horseshit. Comprende?

 

[domer76]

Russia releasing the diry secrets of the DNC is something we should thank them for.

our own corrupt Media turned a blind eye to 8 years of government abuse of power as we meddle in countless elections abroad.

Hey, fucktard. Has the question as to why only the Dems were targeted on the release? Of course not. That's because you're an ignorant RW hack.

 

[anatta]

Somewhere there is Probable Cause that Carter Page was engaged in the commission of a felony.

I would hate to be him right now.....

There is also reason for the FBI to investigating Rump for a felony, otherwise they would not be doing it.

correct. In Page's case he was havinf clandestine meeting with some known Russian operative according to the little bit I've read on this.
That combined with his extensive Russian ties is a true probable cause.
Page denies all this ( and i'm not more up to speed) but on the face of it - meeting clandestine Russian ops
is gonna cause surveillance. That's righteous.
++
It's the rest of the unmasking by incidental collections where Rice had no business playing an investigator
along with the Obamatrons ginning up raw intel into easily seen/leaked reports that are the problem..

Further there are reporters on Hannity now and then from Circa ( I think) and FOX that are looking into the slow/ non-existent pace of Comey's answering the "100 questions" -which makes sense in that Comey's interest is protecting the FBI's clean cut nice white guy/hat's image.

It's all putrid, un-American and hidden by the Deep State, to the Point Congress cannot do oversight

 

[zymurgy]

Hey, fucktard. Has the question as to why only the Dems were targeted on the release? Of course not. That's because you're an ignorant RW hack.

hey crybaby - when you get caught with shit in your diaper, stop crying about the other babies with shit in their diaper. wipe your ass - you stink

 

[Micawber]

..... the IC and it's leadership has become a politicized Deep State

....setting aside the detail, show me the good ole days when it was not? Nixon? McCarthy era? Eliot Ness? Thinking back, these puritanical glory years of intelligence and law enforcement's disentanglement from the influence of their bosses elude me.

 

[Mr.Badguy]

Another interesting development this week was the arrest -by request of the FBI- on a Russian hacker in Spain. The FBI won't comment on it but the hackers wife has supposedly said his arrest was due to involvement in the 2016 election.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/09/world/europe/peter-severa-levahsov-russia-arrest.html

 

[Micawber]

correct. In Page's case he was havinf clandestine meeting with some known Russian operative according to the little bit I've read on this.
That combined with his extensive Russian ties is a true probable cause.
Page denies all this ( and i'm not more up to speed) but on the face of it - meeting clandestine Russian ops
is gonna cause surveillance. That's righteous.
++
It's the rest of the unmasking by incidental collections where Rice had no business playing an investigator
along with the Obamatrons ginning up raw intel into easily seen/leaked reports that are the problem..

Further there are reporters on Hannity now and then from Circa ( I think) and FOX that are looking into the slow/ non-existent pace of Comey's answering the "100 questions" -which makes sense in that Comey's interest is protecting the FBI's clean cut nice white guy/hat's image.

It's all putrid, un-American and hidden by the Deep State, to the Point Congress cannot do oversight

Can I pay you not to say "deep state" again?

 

[Micawber]

get the fuck out of you statist. God help any of your clients who seek relief under the Bill of Rights.
"satisfy the 4th my arse"

They are a rubber stamp,and they are manipulated by the Deep State for the benefit of the Deep State

ooooooooooooohhhh Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep State! So conspiratorial. Tinker Tailor soldier spy blacklist redemption 24 . Have you decoded this yet?

 

[domer76]

hey crybaby - when you get caught with shit in your diaper, stop crying about the other babies with shit in their diaper. wipe your ass - you stink

Poor little ignorant RW lemming. Got called on your horseshit a couple times and this is the best you have.

Cretinous little turd.

 

[zymurgy]

Poor little ignorant RW lemming. Got called on your horseshit a couple times and this is the best you have.

Cretinous little turd.

you have shit in your diaper - we can smell it

 

[anatta]

Can I pay you not to say "deep state" again?

only if you actually address one of my many points..
but of course you cannot -being the World's Worst Lawyer or simply a poser.

It's amazingly stupid of you to latch onto "Deep State" as something of interest, yet be completely unable to refute anything.

 

[anatta]

Another interesting development this week was the arrest -by request of the FBI- on a Russian hacker in Spain. The FBI won't comment on it but the hackers wife has supposedly said his arrest was due to involvement in the 2016 election.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/09/world/europe/peter-severa-levahsov-russia-arrest.html

i read that link 3 x and it didn't mention a link to 2016 or a wife? am i missing it?

The initial reports in Russian news media of Mr. Levashov’s arrest did not say if he was suspected by United States intelligence agencies of being involved in attempts by Russian government hackers to meddle in the 2016 American presidential election. The American intelligence agencies have said Russian hackers broke into the servers of the Democratic National Committee and the email of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman and released documents in an effort to sway the election toward Donald J. Trump.

But computer researchers who have linked the long-running computer spam business of the man known as Peter Severa to malware used in 2012 to influence a domestic election in Russia say his arrest could give other investigations important information.

 

[blackascoal]

only if you actually address one of my many points..
but of course you cannot -being the World's Worst Lawyer or simply a poser.

It's amazingly stupid of you to latch onto "Deep State" as something of interest, yet be completely unable to refute anything.

Deep state is of no interest to anybody but Trump supporters.

It's a ruse .. a knuckleheaded notion that extraordinary government involvement is required to destroy a clown that lies and tweets like a teenager.

 

[anatta]

....setting aside the detail, show me the good ole days when it was not? Nixon? McCarthy era? Eliot Ness? Thinking back, these puritanical glory years of intelligence and law enforcement's disentanglement from the influence of their bosses elude me.

it is the rise of the NSA and the ability to collect metadata -along with internet tracking and Email monitoring that have caused the IC to become a pernicious offender of the 4th.

To answer more directly: our's is a paperless/keystroke world,and the IC has keys to unlocking every byte of it.

 

[zymurgy]

Deep state is of no interest to anybody but Trump supporters.

It's a ruse .. a knuckleheaded notion that extraordinary government involvement is required to destroy a clown that lies and tweets like a teenager.

I despise Trump - and I am extremely concerned with our spying operation and civil liberties

you are a jackass hyper partisan nut job.