Ethical Question: Cloning Neanderthal

Taft2016 said:
Why bother? Arguing with those whose ideas about the American Civil War is limited to that of 3rd graders is a waste of time.

With the benefit of hindsight that President Lincoln did not have, I think the best course of action would have been to allow the Confederacy to secede. Within 10 to 15 years they would have realized that in international relations they would not have been able to survive in the world economy with products produced by slave labor. The internal pressures within the populations of nations like Britain and France would have resulted in embargoes. The Confederacy would have abolished slavery on their own, realized they had more in common with the Federal government than they initially thought, and that rejoining the union would have been in everyone's best interests.

I don't think that perfectly rational observation makes me a "sympathizer."

Lol, and as I said in the 12 years thread, I must be the only pro-Lincoln neo-Confederate in existence. So, back to your 3rd grade text book laddie.
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He did let the Confederacy secede (well, mostly it was Buchanan). Then they attacked America.
 
Taft2016 said:
I suppose your ignorance denied you the fact that the Confederate Constitution prohibited the importation of slaves.
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The westward expansion of slavery and the slave trade are not the same thing. The Confederate Constitution was largely a reprint of the American Constitution, except that it specifically mentioned slavery. Which is ironic, because the south had never shown much respect for the same text.
 
Taft2016 said:
I suppose your ignorance denied you the fact that the Confederate Constitution prohibited the importation of slaves.
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I am aware of it. That was just to appease Britain and to protect/appeal to slave breeders in border states (at the time) Maryland and Virginia. It is one of many protections for slavery and slaveholders in the Confederate Constitution.
 
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domer76 said:
Fucking moron. The slave trade ended in 1807 because the South already had a self-sustaining population of slaves.

Racist fucktard.
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Fuckwit, the CSA was an independent nation, made their own laws, and were no longer bound by federal rule.

Did you finish the 3rd grade?
 
Pocahontas said:
The westward expansion of slavery and the slave trade are not the same thing. The Confederate Constitution was largely a reprint of the American Constitution, except that it specifically mentioned slavery. Which is ironic, because the south had never shown much respect for the same text.
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I don't get your point here.
 
Dick from the Internet said:
I am aware of it. That was just to appease Britain and to protect/appeal to slave breeders in border states (at the time) Maryland and Virginia. It is one of many protections for slavery and slaveholders in the Confederate Constitution.
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Which is an odd addition for a nation looking to expand slavery all over the hemisphere.
 
Taft2016 said:
Which is an odd addition for a nation looking to expand slavery all over the hemisphere.
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No. They allowed importation from the US. That was meant to appeal to Maryland and Virginia who at the time were neutral border states.

They also allowed for new states so long as they were slave states. What's that for unless they hoped to expand slavery?
 
Taft2016 said:
Fuckwit, the CSA was an independent nation, made their own laws, and were no longer bound by federal rule.

Did you finish the 3rd grade?
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Asswipe. They had no need to import slaves. Their's was a self-sustaining population.

Keep flailing away, hole, trying to rationalize racism whenever you can.
 
Pocahontas said:
In other words, he should have capitulated and shown weakness. Something no one ever asks American presidents to do nowadays.
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No, he should have withdrawn the troops prior to the attack on Sumter.

The Confederacy was losing proposition from the get go.

Of course, like I said, I have the benefit of hindsight. From my readings, I've never seen that option ever considered at the time.
 
Taft2016 said:
No, he should have withdrawn the troops prior to the attack on Sumter.

The Confederacy was losing proposition from the get go.

Of course, like I said, I have the benefit of hindsight. From my readings, I've never seen that option ever considered at the time.
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No, he should not have withdrawn troops prior to the attack! Whose side are you on, here? You don't leave your territory undefended; particularly when an enemy appears likely to attack it. You don't appease degenerate peoples like Nazi Germany or the Antebellum South. Instead you show strength and resolve, and if they start a war with you anyway, you defeat them, and force your values upon the ruins of their sham society.

Just like today. Should we just give Iran, ISIL, and North Korea whatever the fuck they want?
 
Dick from the Internet said:
I am aware of it. That was just to appease Britain and to protect/appeal to slave breeders in border states (at the time) Maryland and Virginia. It is one of many protections for slavery and slaveholders in the Confederate Constitution.
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Border State? Maryland was a slave-owning UNION State.

What protects the Democrat party "slave holders" today? That's right. Those that belong to it choose to be slaves on that plantation.
 
domer76 said:
Asswipe. They had no need to import slaves. Their's was a self-sustaining population.

Keep flailing away, hole, trying to rationalize racism whenever you can.
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With the way the self-made Democrat party "slaves" of today produce bastard children, are they trying to self-sustain to continue doing what Lyndon Johnson said they'd be doing for 200 year? Only 150 years to go.
 
Pocahontas said:
No, he should not have withdrawn troops prior to the attack! Whose side are you on, here? You don't leave your territory undefended; particularly when an enemy appears likely to attack it. You don't appease degenerate peoples like Nazi Germany or the Antebellum South. Instead you show strength and resolve, and if they start a war with you anyway, you defeat them, and force your values upon the ruins of their sham society.

Just like today. Should we just give Iran, ISIL, and North Korea whatever the fuck they want?
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Obama gave Iran what they wanted. Thanks for admitting he had no resolve and was weak.
 
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