Midas Whale67
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It doesn't matter what the subject. These fuckwits wax hysterical at a bowel movement.
NEW BOMBSHELL: Jared Kushner and Mike Flynn met with the Russians in December
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Midas Whale67
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Every trumper is a N4T.
And you do?
Where did I make any claims about what evidence they do or don't have?
Idiot rube.
Read it and then cite the page numbers and paragraphs you think are lies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/the-intelligence-community-report-on-russian-activities-in-the-2016-election/2153/
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
yes.....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
because we think you're a fucking idiot for believing its soviet style espionage in alliance with the chief executive.......sufficient evidence of this exists to laugh at you and ignore everything you say.....
No lies that I can point out, not much of anything either.....
The intell. assessment is certainly an indictment against Putin and Russia in general....Russian TV, cyber espionage, their motives and methods, using DC Leaks and Wikileaks, etc. to influence the 2016 election.....
It goes on to mention Russian influence efforts during the Cold War (40 years ago), in the 2008 and 2010 elections, and in Carter's election in the 1970's....and their efforts to influence elections all across Europe. Kind of ancient history.
It details Russian Radio(RT America) efforts in 2012 ...Occupy Wall Street, etc., fracking, Syria, the Georgian-Russian conflict, etc.
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So, what does all this tell us...Russia has been trying to exert influence on the US for decades....half the document to tell us what we've known and don't doubt, for more than half a century ...
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Page 11....etc.
ie Hillary Clinton
they tell us of more Russian motives to undermine the US...The Panama Papers, Olympic doping scandal, ISIL, Syria, the Ukraine and Putin's grudge against Hillary.
ie Trump...
A possible counter terrorism coalition with Trump against ISIS ?
Putin's positive experiences with leaders that have world business interests, as Trump does, could favor a less aggressive relationship with the US ?
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So, more of Russia's reasons for wanting to influence the election. Simply put, a grudge against Hillary and a possible more friendly relationship with the US if Trump gets elected....
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Then it gets into what they are thinking happened.
Russia was involved with the DNC hacking and the leaking of those emails through Wikileaks....
Their assessments of Guccifer 2.0, the GRU and Assage detailing how the emails were disseminated....a pattern similar to how Russian intell. discloses data.
A claim that Russia accessed elements of state and local election boards as early as 2014 but not involved in vote tallying.
Internet trolling in favor of Trump or against Clinton, how ever you want to view it....More on RTV and radio, social media, etc. More on Russian
motives and avenging negative Putin reports, etc.....
An interesting document with very little new information. No actual 'evidence' because that information would be classified.
Russian attempts at espionage has been a given for decades. The motives for or against the candidates was interesting but not earth shattering.....the 'grudge' against Hillary was revealing.
A good read....but hardly a 'bombshell report'.....imo, the DNC emails didn't involve Hillary personally, one way or the other to any major extent.
Comey's testimony ( which Russia had nothing to do with) was much more devastating to her campaign and voters attitude towards her....
Callinectes
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I don't know how to make it any clearer. Maybe if I type slower, and in a bold, italicized, larger red font. THE RUSSIANS ATTEMPTED TO INFLUENCE OR INTERFERE WITH THE 2016 ELECTIONS. . Did that help? That was never in dispute, with virtually everybody except a certain band of idiot politicians who attempted to "reset" relations with a world leader who was and still is widely regarded as a snake. Anyone with half a brain knew this was going on, and HAS been going on probably since the communist slimeballs took over in 1917. Hell, it's probably in their DNA. My issue is the same leftists who denied that the Russians were a serious threat to security are now trying to paint every person in the Trump administration as some kind of KGB operative in cahoots with Putin. Yes, some of these people have talked to Russians! You better hope they continue to do so, because when talk at this level stops, shooting and other nastiness frequently starts. And no, I'm not reading anything from the Washington compost.
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Interesting how Christiefan refuses to discuss Canada.
She knows it makes her entire argument moot, so she pretends it didn't happen.
She knows it makes her entire argument moot, so she pretends it didn't happen.
Midas Whale67
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This panty waist is asleep at the wheel with his dick in his hand.
He can't wait til America goes BOOM! So he can blame it on Trump.
Fuck you fellow Americans. Micawful's willing for you to "take one for the team".
SmarterthanYou
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why or how was flynn disgraced??????
Midas Whale67
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Well.. she wants her participation trophy for all that strenuous research at fucking least!
They seem to forget Obama's relationship with Putin, or Hillary's failed "reset button."
If this is the report trump got, with the classified part included, why does he keep insisting anything about Russia is fake news?
"Russia talk is FAKE NEWS put out by the Dems, and played up by the media, in order to mask the big election defeat and the illegal leaks!" Trump tweeted.
Page 6 - We did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcome of the 2016 election. The US intelligence community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze us political processes or US public opinion.
Page 12 - By their nature Russian influence campaigns are multifaceted and designed to be deniable because they use a mix of agents of influence, cutouts, front organizations, and false-flag operations. Moscow demonstrated this during the Ukraine crisis in 2014 when Russia deployed forces and advisers to eastern Ukraine and denied it publicly.
The Kremlin's campaign aimed at the us election featured disclosures of data obtained through Russian cyber operations; intrusions into US state and local electoral boards; and overt propaganda. Russian intelligence collection both informed and enabled the influence campaign.
"Russia talk is FAKE NEWS put out by the Dems, and played up by the media, in order to mask the big election defeat and the illegal leaks!" Trump tweeted.
Page 6 - We did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcome of the 2016 election. The US intelligence community is charged with monitoring and assessing the intentions, capabilities, and actions of foreign actors; it does not analyze us political processes or US public opinion.
Page 12 - By their nature Russian influence campaigns are multifaceted and designed to be deniable because they use a mix of agents of influence, cutouts, front organizations, and false-flag operations. Moscow demonstrated this during the Ukraine crisis in 2014 when Russia deployed forces and advisers to eastern Ukraine and denied it publicly.
The Kremlin's campaign aimed at the us election featured disclosures of data obtained through Russian cyber operations; intrusions into US state and local electoral boards; and overt propaganda. Russian intelligence collection both informed and enabled the influence campaign.
No, we didn't forget those two. And we didn't forget bush's failed relationship with Putin, either. Right from the horse's mouth:
Former President George W. Bush warns that Russian leader Vladimir Putin will “push and push and push until someone stands up to him.”
Bush made the comments on “Ellen,” in response to President Donald Trump’s suggestions that the U.S. could pursue warmer relations with Russia. Last year, intelligence officials concluded that Russia interfered in the presidential election with the goal of helping Trump get elected. Many in Washington, D.C., have pushed for a probe into Trump administration’s ties to Russia.
Bush warned that it’s dangerous to appease the Russian president.
“I had a contentious relationship with him and I think whoever the president is, is going to find out that Putin will push and push and push until someone stands up to him,” Bush told Ellen DeGeneres on the show broadcast Thursday.
\http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/george-w-bush-putin_us_58b82616e4b01fc1bde63b6d
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Page 13 - In early September, Putin said publicly it was important the DNC data was exposed to Wikileaks, calling the search for the source of the leaks a distraction and denying Russian "state-level" involvement.
The Kremlin's principal international propaganda outlet RT (formerly Russia Today) has actively collaborated with WikiLeaks. RT's editor-in-chief visited WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London in August 2013, where they discussed renewing his broadcast contract with RT, according to Russian and Western media. Russian media subsequently announced that RT had become "the only Russia media company" to partner with WikiLeaks and had received access to "new leaks of secret information." RT routinely gives Assange sympathetic coverage and provides him a platform to denounce the United States.
The Kremlin's principal international propaganda outlet RT (formerly Russia Today) has actively collaborated with WikiLeaks. RT's editor-in-chief visited WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London in August 2013, where they discussed renewing his broadcast contract with RT, according to Russian and Western media. Russian media subsequently announced that RT had become "the only Russia media company" to partner with WikiLeaks and had received access to "new leaks of secret information." RT routinely gives Assange sympathetic coverage and provides him a platform to denounce the United States.
Page 14 - Russian media hailed President-elect Trump's victory as a vindication of Putin's advocacy of global populist movements - the theme of Putin's annual conference for Western academics in October 2016 - and the latest example of Western liberalism's collapse.
Putin's chief propagandist Dmitriy Kiselev used his flagship weekly newsmagazine program this fall to cast President-elect Trump as an outsider victimized by a corrupt political establishment and faulty democratic election process that aimed to prevent his election because of his desire to work with Moscow.
Pro-Kremlin proxy Vladimir Zhirinovskiy, leader of the nationalist Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, proclaimed just before the election that if President-elect Trump won, Russia would "drink champagne" in anticipation of being able to advance its positions on Syria and Ukraine.
Putin's chief propagandist Dmitriy Kiselev used his flagship weekly newsmagazine program this fall to cast President-elect Trump as an outsider victimized by a corrupt political establishment and faulty democratic election process that aimed to prevent his election because of his desire to work with Moscow.
Pro-Kremlin proxy Vladimir Zhirinovskiy, leader of the nationalist Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, proclaimed just before the election that if President-elect Trump won, Russia would "drink champagne" in anticipation of being able to advance its positions on Syria and Ukraine.
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So Christiekins thinks the meeting with Russia is a bombshell, though it was not improper and common. And she doesn't think the meeting with Canada is a bombshell.
That hypocrisy blows this whole thread to smithereens.
That hypocrisy blows this whole thread to smithereens.
ROFL This from the guy who "looked into Putin's eyes"
Taking foreign policy advice from Bush is surely a bad idea
