Fears of a ‘Deep State’ in America

It was about, what annata claims he/she would have done if he/she were Snowden. Follow the context of the discussion or keep your stupid mouth shut!

AFAIK, Snowden had no legal power to brief any oversight committee. I don't see any reason to believe that these leakers are free to tell these things to congress, as you suggested.
I'm a he.
Snowden would have to be called to testify. He could certainly brief - in classified committees,not open testimony
But Snowden isn't the issue here -and he had intent to protect the Constituion -a noble goal.

What nobility of leakage is coming out of the IC? It looks to be pure spite.
Besides they are bound by confidentiality in order to protect presidential perogative of policy.
The leaks so the opposite of that. They can only hamstring a POTUS.
 
ummm.....I made the comment, not annata......I'm pretty sure I know what the comment was about......I also know that every post you make here is about diverting the discussion.........meanwhile, in a thread started to discuss the I-community I repeat, they could have given their info to their oversight committee instead of the NYT......care to respond this time?.....

Is annata your sock?

Snowden was a 1 in a billion "good leak" because it went to process of protecting the Constitution from abuse to the 4th.
In that case I would have gone to Congress -
Rand Paul would have gladly taken it up, and the same thing would have been accomplished


I am not diverting anything. Annata and the PiMPle are trying to divert attention from what they said just moments ago.
 
No, you think your problem (with memory and keeping context) is mine to solve.
What in this composition lead you to believe that I was the one doing the juxtaposing? How can I possibly make my meaning clearer?
No. the one time you decided to do more then ruminate in stream of consciousness style posting- is when I followed your logic without pullig out the finished thought from you
 
Is annata your sock?

I am not diverting anything. Annata and the PiMPle are trying to divert attention from what they said just moments ago.
now you are arguing without purpose,and declarative points of debate other then to say "no i'm not -yes you are."
We're done until you can advance an idea.
 
I'm a he.
Snowden would have to be called to testify. He could certainly brief - in classified committees,not open testimony
But Snowden isn't the issue here -and he had intent to protect the Constituion -a noble goal.

What nobility of leakage is coming out of the IC? It looks to be pure spite.
Besides they are bound by confidentiality in order to protect presidential perogative of policy.
The leaks so the opposite of that. They can only hamstring a POTUS.

Snowden is the issue that YOU were talking about but now it is not? You constantly try to drop the context of what you just said. I don't see any proof that he had that option.

The nobility of the leak is in exposing the Trump admins ties with Putin and the possible subversion of our democratic institutions. If the Trump administration is "hamstrung" in pursuing the interest of a foreign power then that is a good thing.
 
now you are arguing without purpose,and declarative points of debate other then to say "no i'm not -yes you are."
We're done until you can advance an idea.

So, tom did not just claim to make the post to which I was referring???? He did not make the claim that I was diverting attention?

You are insane!
 
ROFL..did you see what the Doomesday clock was about?
It was about rolling back green policies.

Seeking an accommodation with Putin in hopes of a detente with Russia is diffusing tensions.
Good lord..unraveling the Cold War 2.0 left over by Obama,and espoused by Hillary is hardly "advancing the clock"

Hey cumstain;
I am a little more concerned with the scientists opinion than yours.

LMFAO
 
No. the one time you decided to do more then ruminate in stream of consciousness style posting- is when I followed your logic without pullig out the finished thought from you

???

You simply did not understand what I clearly stated, because a) you are a moron; b) you fried your brain long ago; c) you are a fucking liar and intended to misrepresent my comments.

I finished my thought.
 
I'm not scared! I guess that excludes me from being a conservative. LOL Funny how Trump was all for leaking government information when he was a candidate. What changed? Why the glaring hypocrisy now? Hell it hasn't even been a month! LOL

Come on mods! This not a current event it's a conspiracy theory.

Bullshit....Trump never condoned leaking government information, that is by its vary nature "classified"....

You can't change something that never was....more fake shit.
 
what "investigation" ? Woodward and Bernstein were still active..they were doing investigative reporting.
They weren't just coughing up classified docs/testimony from the IC - which is illegal because of policy differences

They were investigating a criminal enterprise run by POTUS.

The FBI investigation into the burglary.
Are you fucking daft?
 
Snowden is the issue that YOU were talking about but now it is not? You constantly try to drop the context of what you just said. I don't see any proof that he had that option.

The nobility of the leak is in exposing the Trump admins ties with Putin and the possible subversion of our democratic institutions. If the Trump administration is "hamstrung" in pursuing the interest of a foreign power then that is a good thing.
It's basic proceedure. a whistleblower goes to Congress etc.
That's even coded into law

There are processes for an i that.
The FBI is already doing an investigation into possible Trump campaign ties to Russia.There are processes for that.
The FBI found out by monitering the Flynn phone call an got the FISA warrant.

Leakage accomplishes nothing- especially the leaks seeking to undermine the ability to converse with foreign leaders by POTUS- except spite
 
???

You simply did not understand what I clearly stated, because a) you are a moron; b) you fried your brain long ago; c) you are a fucking liar and intended to misrepresent my comments.

I finished my thought.
your obscure ruminations of what you were juxtaposing ( when you did not make clear what you were comparing -much less the fact you were comparing) are just another example of your lazy compositions.

You and Rune can get angry and throw insults -it accomplishes nothing - & I don't use such 3rd grade tactics
because it diminishes my posts idea to temper tantrum thrash. But hey. If that's your preference go for it.
 
It's basic proceedure. a whistleblower goes to Congress etc.
That's even coded into law

There are processes for an i that.
The FBI is already doing an investigation into possible Trump campaign ties to Russia.There are processes for that.
The FBI found out by monitering the Flynn phone call an got the FISA warrant.

Leakage accomplishes nothing- especially the leaks seeking to undermine the ability to converse with foreign leaders by POTUS- except spite

So you don't have any proof of your claimbut you assume it is true? Sorry, but that does not work for me. Where is it coded into the law?

The leakage counters Trump's bald faced lies from just yesterday on the subject.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/16/51562...of-trump-denies-campaign-contacts-with-russia
 
So you don't have any proof of your claimbut you assume it is true? Sorry, but that does not work for me. Where is it coded into the law?

The leakage counters Trump's bald faced lies from just yesterday on the subject.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/16/51562...of-trump-denies-campaign-contacts-with-russia
Whistleblower Protection..in any event that was about protecting the Constitution.

Nothing like that is in play here. We cannot have checks and balances by systemic leaking of classified data.
I would expect you to understand such basic rule of law without my referencing.
Congress has ability to investigate without spilling classified info,investigations into the press.
The FBI went to FISA for Flynn..all that is normative
 
Whistleblower Protection..in any event that was about protecting the Constitution.

Nothing like that is in play here. We cannot have checks and balances by systemic leaking of classified data.
I would expect you to understand such basic rule of law without my referencing.
Congress has ability to investigate without spilling classified info,investigations into the press.
The FBI went to FISA for Flynn..all that is normative


The Whistleblower Protection Act does not allow for someone like Snowden to reveal classified information to members of congress. He could have filed a complaint with his bosses but it was/is unclear that the courts would have done anything to protect him from reprisal.
 
your obscure ruminations of what you were juxtaposing ( when you did not make clear what you were comparing -much less the fact you were comparing) are just another example of your lazy compositions.

You and Rune can get angry and throw insults -it accomplishes nothing - & I don't use such 3rd grade tactics
because it diminishes my posts idea to temper tantrum thrash. But hey. If that's your preference go for it.

You are a dirty fucking liar.
You have used many insults.
 
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