Gingrich, leader of fight to impeach Clinton, calls Kelly out

tsuke said:
im actually serious. I work in the industry. The total credit card debt keeps getting higher but less and less people are qualifying for cards. That means the bottom ones are dropping out due to too much debt.

Its not a coincidence you see a lot of secured cards /credit buidling cards in the market recently. The banks are doing everything they can to lure people back into the market because too many are dropping out.
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So more and more people are learning Credit Cards aren't the answer and are learning to live within a budget.

Sounds like a good thing to me.
 
anatta said:
right. I recall the primary debate. and it's not baseless conjecture to be sure, but neither is it certain fact ..etc etc..

But again simply putting "if" in front of a charge (2x), in this mindless media frenzied campaign,doesn't mean those who
listen to Trump's denials can't push back on that.
And that's where she went off the rails.
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And did you give Bill the benefit of the doubt when those women came forward to accuse him of sexual assault?
 
Leonthecat said:
A house of cards is not very stable, is it.
Debt is not money.
Only fools think that it is.
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the problem is it is priced into everything we buy. Normally a company can only charge what the market will bear. With everyones salary this should not be that much but with credit cards it increases exponentially which leads to people getting kicked out of the credit market and unable to contribute to consumer spending.

It also locks them from upstream stuff like houses /cars /etc.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
So more and more people are learning Credit Cards aren't the answer and are learning to live within a budget.

Sounds like a good thing to me.
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except we have made is so building credit is the only way to unlock upstream purchases later in life like houses or cars. Not to mention the prices of goods are inflated because companies can charge more because credit cards make you think you have more disposable income.
 
tsuke said:
the problem is it is priced into everything we buy. Normally a company can only charge what the market will bear. With everyones salary this should not be that much but with credit cards it increases exponentially which leads to people getting kicked out of the credit market and unable to contribute to consumer spending.

It also locks them from upstream stuff like houses /cars /etc.
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You actually believe that no one can buy anything without a credit card?
Credit card companies are the bane of civilization.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And did you give Bill the benefit of the doubt when those women came forward to accuse him of sexual assault?
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I specifically remember Sean Hannity declaring on the air that he believed every single one of Clinton's accusers, and that everyone should.

He's singing a pretty different tune today, as are most of Trump's supporters. If there is more blatant hypocrisy, I haven't seen it.
 
Thing1 said:
Anyone catch that exchange?

What an unbelievable hypocrite. Saying she's "fascinated with sex" after a few weeks of coverage, compared to how much time he spent taking Clinton down in the '90's.

Check it on youtube, and check the comments section underneath the video. Trump/Gingrich have really made America safe for disgusting sexists & misogynists again.

Make no mistake: these people hate women. They absolutely despise women.
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Funny how Zappa thanked your post when he hates women and believe they should give up their seats for men.
 
Thing1 said:
It's not superlative. Here is where you are tone deaf: his words weren't the usual banter. He was talking SPECIFICALLY about sexual assault, and actions without consent. To not get that is to have a level of ignorance that frankly, I can't comprehend.

And when you combine that with 10 accusers who all said that Trump did exactly what he said he did, it's actually very reasonable for the media to explore the allegations in terms of Trump being a sexual predator.

I won't defend Hillary for the super predators comment. If you think that's apples-to-apples to actually committing sexual assault, I just feel bad for you.
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No, it's not because the super predator comment has racist connotations. But I don't expect the media to hyperventilate over that.
 
Thing1 said:
And you really don't see the difference between a comment like that, and sexual assault?
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You give Hillary's comments an obligatory condemnation so you can say you checked the box. But if Trump said that it would be a really big deal, wouldn't it lol.

Talk about tone deaf. You should hear yourself sometimes.

You said the media should explore the possibility Trump is a sex poodle. Ok, fine. When are they going to get around to exploring Hillary's myriad corruption possibilities? There's too many of them to count.

Newt pointed that out to Kelly and she dodged it because she knows she and the bulk of the media are obsessed with going after Trump.
 
Mr. Shaman said:
Yeah.....those "conservatives" surely can be quite the literary-artists!!!


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christiefan915 said:
Yikes! My eyes, I need BleachBit!
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I'm sure it's merely a matter o' Lynne recalling a lil' experimentation, during her college-days o' lookin' for a husband.​
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
You give Hillary's comments an obligatory condemnation so you can say you checked the box. But if Trump said that it would be a really big deal, wouldn't it lol.

Talk about tone deaf. You should hear yourself sometimes.

You said the media should explore the possibility Trump is a sex poodle. Ok, fine. When are they going to get around to exploring Hillary's myriad corruption possibilities? There's too many of them to count.

Newt pointed that out to Kelly and she dodged it because she knows she and the bulk of the media are obsessed with going after Trump.
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Not sex "poodle," Darth. Sex predator.

It's really amazing to hear you talk about it, and even say things like you wish Trump assaulted you. I don't know how someone can be so disconnected from what it does to women to be victims of assault. Most that I've seen or read interviewed say they never get over it.

Trump says racist shite all the time; I actually don't make too big a deal about it, though I know you love your "imagine if" scenarios. Sexual assault is a whole different animal. That you don't see the difference is incredibly alarming.
 
Thing1 said:
Not sex "poodle," Darth. Sex predator.

It's really amazing to hear you talk about it, and even say things like you wish Trump assaulted you. I don't know how someone can be so disconnected from what it does to women to be victims of assault. Most that I've seen or read interviewed say they never get over it.

Trump says racist shite all the time; I actually don't make too big a deal about it, though I know you love your "imagine if" scenarios. Sexual assault is a whole different animal. That you don't see the difference is incredibly alarming.
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The hyperbolic thing doesn't work with me so don't waste your time.

Do you think it's fair for Trump to be prosecuted by the media as a sexual predator when it's all based on conjecture and hearsay?

Or you're down for anything as long as Trump is taken down, by whatever means.

And do you REALLY THINK it's a bigger issue [for the country as a whole and not just the feminist movement] than the fact Hillary executed a uranium deal with the Russians while Sec State?

You realize that uranium can end up in Iranian or Russian nuclear silos, right? By the way, that did not come up ONE TIME in any of the debates. Not once, did Hillary have to defend that.

You wouldn't know bias if someone stuffed it in a hand grenade and it blew up across the street from you.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The hyperbolic thing doesn't work with me so don't waste your time.

Do you think it's fair for Trump to be prosecuted by the media as a sexual predator when it's all based on conjecture and hearsay?

Or you're down for anything as long as Trump is taken down, by whatever means.

And do you REALLY THINK it's a bigger issue [for the country as a whole and not just the feminist movement] than the fact Hillary executed a uranium deal with the Russians while Sec State?

You realize that uranium can end up in Iranian or Russian nuclear silos, right? By the way, that did not come up ONE TIME in any of the debates. Not once, did Hillary have to defend that.

You wouldn't know bias if someone stuffed it in a hand grenade and it blew up across the street from you.
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Was it fair for the media and Republicans to prosecute Clinton for sexual assault when it too was all based on conjecture and hearsay?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The hyperbolic thing doesn't work with me so don't waste your time.

Do you think it's fair for Trump to be prosecuted by the media as a sexual predator when it's all based on conjecture and hearsay?

Or you're down for anything as long as Trump is taken down, by whatever means.

And do you REALLY THINK it's a bigger issue [for the country as a whole and not just the feminist movement] than the fact Hillary executed a uranium deal with the Russians while Sec State?

You realize that uranium can end up in Iranian or Russian nuclear silos, right? By the way, that did not come up ONE TIME in any of the debates. Not once, did Hillary have to defend that.

You wouldn't know bias if someone stuffed it in a hand grenade and it blew up across the street from you.
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The 2 bolded statements are really all we need to know about your self-awareness.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And did you give Bill the benefit of the doubt when those women came forward to accuse him of sexual assault?
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yes i did, and I've never gone there as part of political discussion. It's too distracting from our myriad problems.

If we could be adults about it and say "Ok that's part of it" when deciding,I'd be less dismissive- but it becomes the ONLY THING
that is discussed ad nauseum while we miss issues of grave importance to the country.

we get played by the campaign, the media hot boxes it and makes EVERYTHING about it, and things like global trade
get lost in the hullabaloo.
It's puerile compared to what we will face over the next 4 years.
 
anatta said:
yes i did, and I've never gone there as part of political discussion. It's too distracting from our myriad problems.

If we could be adults about it and say "Ok that's part of it" when deciding,I'd be less dismissive- but it becomes the ONLY THING
that is discussed ad nauseum while we miss issues of grave importance to the country.

we get played by the campaign, the media hot boxes it and makes EVERYTHING about it, and things like global trade
get lost in the hullabaloo.
It's puerile compared to what we will face over the next 4 years.
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Sadly, not many on either side are as reasonable as you.
 
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