Gingrich, leader of fight to impeach Clinton, calls Kelly out

Darth Hussein Omar said:
Well, the way it's set up to work is that the republican [or surrogate in this instance] is supposed to roll-over or otherwise acquiesce to the sex charge or whatever charge. Otherwise, the liberal accuser gets pissy; histrionics laced with hyperbole ensue; and in many instances names are called.

The JPP liberals reading this thread do it. See: the misogynist charge above.

But Trump or Gingrich don't play the game. The latter was right to call Megyn Kelly out on her bias---that she appears oblivious to. She should go to work at MSNBC.
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which is the crux of the matter. Once it's out there ( and look at the disparagement on the coverage between WIKI and Bimbos) it's just accepted as fact by the media. Homey don't play that last night, and she got upset someone challenged the media bias.

She's the same type who says we should be talking about the issues!
 
anatta said:
well then if that's the charge, don't be surprised when you get that pushed back on.

It's hearsay with unsubstantiated allegations,and he's denied it. You can believe what you want.
Don't expect his surrogates to just sit there and agree.

Kelly got called out on it, and she got bent because of the push back..poor thing.
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Yet Righties accepted as fact the allegations by Clinton's accusers, based on nothing more than unsubstantiated hearsay.

Typical Rightie double standard.
 
tsuke said:
of course the true retardation is continuing the way we are.

Mark my words if we continue our current course we will not see a housing bubble burst but a credit card bubble. Instead of having no house to stay in people will have no food to eat and that leads to bad things.
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Ahhh Booga Booga Booga!!
 
And, here we have more feigned hypocritical outrage regarding how women should be thought of by the Obamas:

Michelle Obama's Promotion of Misogyny and Date Rape

from American Thinker By William A. Levinson October 16, 2016

Michelle Obama laid into Donald Trump for his lewd locker room remarks about women as follows: "I can't stop thinking about this. It has shaken me to my core in a way I could not have predicted" -- whereupon the White House warned Trump to not retaliate against the First Lady.

"And the White House on Thursday advised that Trump continue to steer clear of the president's wife, suggesting that an unprecedented attack on the first lady is a surefire way for the GOP nominee's standing to plummet further."

Well, Eric Schultz (and presumably Barack Obama), here is what you can do with your warning. Donald Trump's statements, which were probably empty boasts in contrast to Bill Clinton's well-known behavior, were indeed lewd and unacceptable. While two wrongs do not make a right, Michelle and Barack Obama have openly promoted rap artists who glorify misogyny, sexual objectification of women, and even date rape. That's right; I am indeed calling out our country's sorry excuse for a First Lady for her and her husband's deplorable legitimization of the most despicable misogynistic language on earth.

In April 2016, the Obamas invited numerous rap artists to the White House to discuss Barack Obama's "My Brother's Keeper" initiative while recognizing them for their "artistic" contributions to minority communities. The rappers whom the Obamas promoted with these invitations include:

•Rick Ross's, "U.O.N.E.O." glorifies date rape with the lyrics, "Put molly all in her champagne/ She ain't even know it / I took her home and I enjoyed that/ She ain't even know it." While Ross denies that this was his intended meaning, "molly" is slang for Ecstasy, a well-known date rape drug, and the context of "molly" in his lyrics shows clearly that a man put it into a woman's drink without her knowledge or consent so he could have sex with her. Ross' "Same Hoes" is meanwhile not about agricultural implements as shown by its lyrics, which consist primarily of the F word, a variant of the N word, and "hoes."
•Common, whose "Go!" includes, "And a ooh baby she liked it raw and like rain when she came it poured" along with a variant of the N word and even more sexually explicit lyrics.
•Jay Z, who proclaims, "I've got 99 problems and a b***h ain't one."
•Michelle Obama called out Trump's remarks with the words, "What message are our little girls hearing about who they should look like, how they should act?" Nicki Minaj, another rapper whom she and her husband brought to the White House, answers that question in "Hey Mama," "Make sure mama crawls on her knees keep him pleased rub him down be a lady and a freak" and also "Yes I do the cooking/ Yes I do the cleaning/ Yes I keep the nana real sweet for your eating/ Yes you be the (boss) yes I be respecting." It doesn't take a feminist to dismiss these words as belonging in a fundamentalist "Islamic" country, assuming that they ever belonged anywhere at all.
•Lifezette.com adds, "And of course, who could forget about the Obamas' cozy relationship with Jay Z and Beyoncé, who have been guests of the president and first lady on multiple occasions?" Jay Z joined Beyoncé in "Drunk in Love". The lyrics include, "Slid the panties right to the side/ Ain`t got the time to take drawers off" and "We sex again in the morning, your breasteses [sic] is my breakfast."
•Beyoncé's "Partition" includes far cruder and more explicit language, whose sole redeeming virtue is to remind everybody that Hillary's husband actually did what Donald Trump talked about. "He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/
He monica-lewinski'd all on my gown," to which she adds, "Hand prints and good grips all on my ass." Beyoncé is certainly No Angel as shown by this line: "First, both of my legs go back on your head/ And whatever you want, yeah baby I'll bet it comes true."

The phrase, "Right message, wrong messenger" applies perfectly here. While Donald Trump's previous statements were crude, coarse, and lewd, nobody who promotes and mainstreams misogyny, subservience of women, and date rape has the moral standing to condemn them. Michelle Obama's words also come across as an obviously partisan attack noting her total silence on Bill Clinton's misogyny and sexual exploitation of women, as well as Hillary Clinton's complicity in the same.
 
anatta said:
you can pick your priorities. But Kelly 2x said "if he is a sexual predator"and that's what Gingrich objected too.
She was calling him a sexual predator -you don't use that 2 times in 1 interview just casually -and thats what brought the exchange.

Gingrich got rightfully angry at the slam,and she got bent she got called out on it.
She can say what she wants, but then she can't feign surprise why she got an angry reply.
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Anatta - she was not calling him a sexual predator.
 
Thing1 said:
Anatta - she was not calling him a sexual predator.
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you can't say "if" 2x in a short interview and think the most heinous charge one can make in modern America is just going to sit there.
I mean I could possibly see it one time -but 2x?

Then she went on about she's concerned about protecting women,when Gingrich was telling her to stick to the issues.

I'm sorry Thing; but it's much like asking "when did you stop beating your wife?"and not expect push back.

Then she comes up with "anger issues" which is belittling him -because he had the temerity to talk back??
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Ahhh Booga Booga Booga!!
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im actually serious. I work in the industry. The total credit card debt keeps getting higher but less and less people are qualifying for cards. That means the bottom ones are dropping out due to too much debt.

Its not a coincidence you see a lot of secured cards /credit buidling cards in the market recently. The banks are doing everything they can to lure people back into the market because too many are dropping out.
 
anatta said:
you can't say "if" 2x in a short interview and think the most heinous charge one can make in modern America is just going to sit there.
I mean I could possibly see it one time -but 2x?

Then she went on about she's concerned about protecting women,when Gingrich was telling her to stick to the issues.

I'm sorry Thing; but it's much like asking "when did you stop beating your wife?"and not expect push back.

Then she comes up with "anger issues" which is belittling him -because he had the temerity to talk back??
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She was trying to explain why the media made such a big story about it, and it's true - IF he's a sexual predator, then it's a big deal. And it's not baseless conjecture when the candidate himself is on tape saying that he does the things that his accusers say he did, and has a long history of misogyny in general.

Trump's women issue is not a made-up thing. At best, he's a proud sexist. Megyn Kelly started this campaign with a question about his misogyny that he took offense to, then proceeded to imply that she was menstruating when she asked it.
 
Thing1 said:
She was trying to explain why the media made such a big story about it, and it's true - IF he's a sexual predator, then it's a big deal. And it's not baseless conjecture when the candidate himself is on tape saying that he does the things that his accusers say he did, and has a long history of misogyny in general.

Trump's women issue is not a made-up thing. At best, he's a proud sexist. Megyn Kelly started this campaign with a question about his misogyny that he took offense to, then proceeded to imply that she was menstruating when she asked it.
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right. I recall the primary debate. and it's not baseless conjecture to be sure, but neither is it certain fact ..etc etc..

But again simply putting "if" in front of a charge (2x), in this mindless media frenzied campaign,doesn't mean those who
listen to Trump's denials can't push back on that.
And that's where she went off the rails.
 
anatta said:
right. I recall the primary debate. and it's not baseless conjecture to be sure, but neither is it certain fact ..etc etc..

But again simply putting "if" in front of a charge (2x), in this mindless media frenzied campaign,doesn't mean those who
listen to Trump's denials can't push back on that.
And that's where she went off the rails.
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Anyone who supports Trumpf is a swine.
 
tsuke said:
of course the true retardation is continuing the way we are.

Mark my words if we continue our current course we will not see a housing bubble burst but a credit card bubble. Instead of having no house to stay in people will have no food to eat and that leads to bad things.
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True retardation is a stupid voter identifying a stupid candidate, thinking "he's just like me," and voting for the stupid candidate.
 
Thing1 said:
She was trying to explain why the media made such a big story about it, and it's true - IF he's a sexual predator, then it's a big deal. And it's not baseless conjecture when the candidate himself is on tape saying that he does the things that his accusers say he did, and has a long history of misogyny in general.

Trump's women issue is not a made-up thing. At best, he's a proud sexist. Megyn Kelly started this campaign with a question about his misogyny that he took offense to, then proceeded to imply that she was menstruating when she asked it.
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The problem is Kelly went straight to the superlative most inflammatory term in 'sexual predator' without stopping at sexist or even misogynist. Here's a newsflash for Kelly: if Trump is a sexual predator for saying that, then bars and locker rooms are over flowing with them. It's inflammatory hyperbolic rhetoric.

Or is it ok to call urban black youths super predators, like Hillary did? I have a hundred bucks you'll say that's different lol.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The problem is Kelly went straight to the superlative most inflammatory term in 'sexual predator' without stopping at sexist or even misogynist. Here's a newsflash for Kelly: if Trump is a sexual predator for saying that, then bars and locker rooms are over flowing with them. It's inflammatory hyperbolic rhetoric.

Or is it ok to call urban black youths super predators, like Hillary did? I have a hundred bucks you'll say that's different lol.
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It's not superlative. Here is where you are tone deaf: his words weren't the usual banter. He was talking SPECIFICALLY about sexual assault, and actions without consent. To not get that is to have a level of ignorance that frankly, I can't comprehend.

And when you combine that with 10 accusers who all said that Trump did exactly what he said he did, it's actually very reasonable for the media to explore the allegations in terms of Trump being a sexual predator.

I won't defend Hillary for the super predators comment. If you think that's apples-to-apples to actually committing sexual assault, I just feel bad for you.
 
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