Gingrich, leader of fight to impeach Clinton, calls Kelly out

anatta said:
yes i did, and I've never gone there as part of political discussion. It's too distracting from our myriad problems.

If we could be adults about it and say "Ok that's part of it" when deciding,I'd be less dismissive- but it becomes the ONLY THING
that is discussed ad nauseum while we miss issues of grave importance to the country.

we get played by the campaign, the media hot boxes it and makes EVERYTHING about it, and things like global trade
get lost in the hullabaloo.
It's puerile compared to what we will face over the next 4 years.
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I disagree that it's a non-issue, Anatta.

Affairs? Sure - not a big deal. Actual sexual assault, combined w/ very clear misogyny?

I mean, to say that's inconsequential is really an affront to women everywhere. I honestly don't get it. I don't want a predator in office, even if he could fix the economy (which Trump can't do anyway).
 
tsuke said:
the problem is it is priced into everything we buy. Normally a company can only charge what the market will bear. With everyones salary this should not be that much but with credit cards it increases exponentially which leads to people getting kicked out of the credit market and unable to contribute to consumer spending.

It also locks them from upstream stuff like houses /cars /etc.
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there are a lot of people who simply can't keep up with the cost of goods and services..

I was looking at getting a new electric blanket for the winter - I don't like to run the heat at night as it dries out my sinuses.
I didn't search very far but I saw prices like $99 for an electric blanket?? On what planet? I was thinking maybe $60 top.

Every service I buy,every bill for house insurance and car insurance ( and I have a perfect driving record) EVERYTHING is becoming unaffordable.
 
Thing1 said:
I disagree that it's a non-issue, Anatta.

Affairs? Sure - not a big deal. Actual sexual assault, combined w/ very clear misogyny?

I mean, to say that's inconsequential is really an affront to women everywhere. I honestly don't get it. I don't want a predator in office, even if he could fix the economy (which Trump can't do anyway).
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I didn't say "non issue" I did say keep it in perspective.
I'd be more inclined to use "sexual predator" if there was a police report, or a contemporaneous report to a lawyer.

And yes.
Just like I supported Bill Clinton through impeachment , i'd support Trump if he was re-negotiating trade deals,
and bringing up our GDP. I don't need a saint in office.
I want someone who can get us back on an economic track without mindless interventionism, with Cold War 2.0 like Hillary offers.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And did you give Bill the benefit of the doubt when those women came forward to accuse him of sexual assault?
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sure.....and we gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said he did not have sex with Monica........then he fucked it all up by admitting he had......lying to people wreaks havoc on your credibility......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
sure.....and we gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said he did not have sex with Monica........then he fucked it all up by admitting he had......lying to people wreaks havoc on your credibility......
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The sex scandal bridge was burnt by the Clinton's and democrats back in the nineties. To whatever extent the bridge ever existed in the first place. Who knows what all went on during the Kennedy administration thirty years before that. But back then the media wasn't scandal driven.

And they've never been biased like this in the modern era. Maybe during the founders day, who knows.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The sex scandal bridge was burnt by the Clinton's and democrats back in the nineties. To whatever extent the bridge ever existed in the first place. Who knows what all went on during the Kennedy administration thirty years before that. But back then the media wasn't scandal driven.

And they've never been biased like this in the modern era. Maybe during the founders day, who knows.
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I think if the internet had existed all along every sex scandal would have been a big deal.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The hyperbolic thing doesn't work with me so don't waste your time.

Do you think it's fair for Trump to be prosecuted by the media as a sexual predator when it's all based on conjecture and hearsay?

Or you're down for anything as long as Trump is taken down, by whatever means.

And do you REALLY THINK it's a bigger issue [for the country as a whole and not just the feminist movement] than the fact Hillary executed a uranium deal with the Russians while Sec State?

You realize that uranium can end up in Iranian or Russian nuclear silos, right? By the way, that did not come up ONE TIME in any of the debates. Not once, did Hillary have to defend that.

You wouldn't know bias if someone stuffed it in a hand grenade and it blew up across the street from you.
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Trump and his campaign claim that Clinton “gave” or “handed over” 20 percent of American uranium rights to the Russians. Through the Uranium One deal, the Russian state-owned nuclear energy company does now have control over 20 percent of U.S. uranium extraction capacity. But it cannot export the uranium.

In 2010, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States approved the sale of the majority of the shares to the Russians. The State Department was one of nine agencies on the committee that approved the deal. The deal was also separately approved by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. There is no evidence Clinton herself got involved in the deal personally, and it is highly questionable that this deal even rose to the level of the secretary of state. Theoretically, as Schweizer says, Clinton could have intervened. But even then, it ultimately would have been Obama’s decision whether to suspend or block the deal.

We wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios. Trump so often uses broad-brushed language that pushes him into Four Pinocchio territory, and this is yet another one of those cases. He specifically names Hillary Clinton as the active agent in the Uranium One deal, saying she “gave them” or “handed over” uranium to the Russians, but that is not the case. Then, he further claimed the sale went forward in exchange “for a big payment.” There’s no evidence for that claim either.

Trump could have avoided so many Pinocchios had he been more careful with the language. For example: “Hillary Clinton’s State Department was one of nine agencies that approved the deal.” Words matter.

Four Pinocchios

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anatta said:
who hates women? is it Gingrich now?

I saww part of it. She fillibustered Pence -not letting him respond to anything but her agenda.
Did you hear what she said "I'm all for protecting women" -once she said that she injected herself into the political process
and she was no longer a reporter, she was there to push her POV.

I didn't see Gingrich - hope fully he called her out on it..and whatever he said in the 90's doesn't have anything to do what
the media has been pushing over and over in concert with the Clinton campaign.

She is one of the few still making this the lead story every night though.

( see what you are missing on FOX? it's a whole new ballgame now that Aisles is gone)
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What the fuck does this have to do with anything? It's just nonsensical rambling. My God you're the dumbest person in the world.
 
anatta said:
I didn't say "non issue" I did say keep it in perspective.
I'd be more inclined to use "sexual predator" if there was a police report, or a contemporaneous report to a lawyer.

And yes.
Just like I supported Bill Clinton through impeachment , i'd support Trump if he was re-negotiating trade deals,
and bringing up our GDP. I don't need a saint in office.
I want someone who can get us back on an economic track without mindless interventionism, with Cold War 2.0 like Hillary offers.
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You supported David Duke in the 90's, not Clinton.
 
I think my favorite thing about the Gingrich/Kelly showdown is that Trump & some of his supporters actually think it was a big "win" for them.

What complete buffoons.
 
Thing1 said:
Yeah; I think the fact that Trump might be a sexual predator - on top of his other constant misogyny - is bigger.

You guys really deserve the electoral meltdown you're about to witness. So tone deaf to basic human rights - gender, religion, race. You have been from the beginning.
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ROFLMAO
 
Thing1 said:
Yeah; I think the fact that Trump might be a sexual predator - on top of his other constant misogyny - is bigger.

You guys really deserve the electoral meltdown you're about to witness. So tone deaf to basic human rights - gender, religion, race. You have been from the beginning.
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You are getting almost as sanctimonious as Twatsky!

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