Iraq & Benghazi

Thingy appears to be politically dense. He really is dumbfounded why people are discussing Benghazi and not Iraq. It is very clear why.
 
NOVA said:
I've never denied it in the past.....I've said many times that congress knew exactly what they were voting for before they voted....war....shit, it wasn't unofficially called the

WAR resolution for nothing.....

and kudos to you for not denying you're a liar.
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I love how you edit BOTH posts after I respond to try to insinuate that I lied about anything.

What's more dishonest than that? You're a hoot, bravs. Easy to tell from the "time edited" notes, btw.

I haven't lied about anything.
 
Seahawk said:
Thingy appears to be politically dense. He really is dumbfounded why people are discussing Benghazi and not Iraq. It is very clear why.
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Well, the point seems to have flown at a comfortable altitude over your head.

I get why Benghazi is discussed. I just find the hypocrisy of many of the convention attendees as well as others on the right regarding this issue to be overwhelming. Because it is.

So Yurt.
 
Seahawk said:
Thingy appears to be politically dense. He really is dumbfounded why people are discussing Benghazi and not Iraq. It is very clear why.
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It isn't clear to me why they are discussing Benghazi, being that Hillary wasn't found guilty of anything, but they desperately want her to be guilty is the only thing I see.
 
Rana said:
It isn't clear to me why they are discussing Benghazi, being that Hillary wasn't found guilty of anything, but they desperately want her to be guilty is the only thing I see.
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I get it to a small extent. It's part of Hillary's legacy, regardless of the investigation.

But, as I've said, the ratio of investigation & consternation to actual findings & incrimination is staggeringly huge. It's part of why I started this thread. We have a 10-year war that causes thousands of deaths, costs us trillions and destabilizes a region, and when we bring it up for the first few years, we're traitors. When we bring it up later than that, it's "ancient history."

But Benghazi? I mean, Fox can give that day after day after day of bogus coverage. They can make that the cornerstone of every discussion about Hillary. It's not even close to proportional.
 
Seahawk said:
Thingy appears to be politically dense. He really is dumbfounded why people are discussing Benghazi and not Iraq. It is very clear why.
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It's a distraction to Clinton's real role in the Libyan war, it's a losing issue -nobody seriously holds her responsible -
and it's petty politics for small minds who can't make the case against Clinton like Christie did the other night.

It's seriopusly stupid to focus on Bengazi when Clinton's record is so full of holes -not just Libya-but Libya being the big burrito
 
NOVA said:
Of course it was 'Bush's war'....thats why he asked to and RECEIVED permission form Congress to wage it.....and the undeniable fact is, without that vote,
there would have been no war.....I keep saying that and you keep mischacterizing my claim.....BDS will do that to you.

To quote you, "an Iraq thread certainly wouldn't be complete without bravs asserting again that "Dems in Congress pushed him into it!"

That post is a total lie, plain and simple. I said nothing even resembling that....a accurate statement would be, the resolution would not have passed without affirmative votes by a number of Democrats....
resulting in no approval of the war.....
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100% correct
 
anatta said:
It's a distraction to Clinton's real role in the Libyan war, it's a losing issue -nobody seriously holds her responsible -
and it's petty politics for small minds who can't make the case against Clinton like Christie did the other night.

It's seriopusly stupid to focus on Bengazi when Clinton's record is so full of holes -not just Libya-but Libya being the big burrito
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Good point, but it is no less stupid than focusing on Trump's wife speech. But for Thingy to not understand why they are doing it instead of focusing on Iraq is dense.
 
Thing1 said:
Well, the point seems to have flown at a comfortable altitude over your head.

I get why Benghazi is discussed. I just find the hypocrisy of many of the convention attendees as well as others on the right regarding this issue to be overwhelming. Because it is.

So Yurt.
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Lol, you get it, but your point is the hypocrisy, which of course you claim you rarely point out and that Yurt is pathological about it. Everyday you mention hypocrisy, but yeah, only Yurt does that kind of stuff. You even find the hypocrisy overwhelming.

This whole thread, by your admission, is just a gotcha and is solely about pointing out hypocrisy. But yeah, that is a Yurt trademark.

Fine, your little hypocrisy point is made, yes, it is hypocritical of righties. But it makes sense as this is done every single time by both parties. Of course they would focus on Benghazi and not Iraq.

In reality though, the issue of being a traitor is not comparable to Benghazi at all. In times of war, there has always been sides and one side for it always throws out the patriotism and traitor rhetoric. Benghazi is not a war and no one has said it is the same as Iraq.
 
Seahawk said:
Lol, you get it, but your point is the hypocrisy, which of course you claim you rarely point out and that Yurt is pathological about it. Everyday you mention hypocrisy, but yeah, only Yurt does that kind of stuff. You even find the hypocrisy overwhelming.

This whole thread, by your admission, is just a gotcha and is solely about pointing out hypocrisy. But yeah, that is a Yurt trademark.

Fine, your little hypocrisy point is made, yes, it is hypocritical of righties. But it makes sense as this is done every single time by both parties. Of course they would focus on Benghazi and not Iraq.

In reality though, the issue of being a traitor is not comparable to Benghazi at all. In times of war, there has always been sides and one side for it always throws out the patriotism and traitor rhetoric. Benghazi is not a war and no one has said it is the same as Iraq.
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Seahawk, every thread is not all about you, the forum is not all about you, and the world is not all about you, that is all.
 
Thing1 said:
Every time someone like Christie tears into Hillary about Benghazi at this convention, you see the righteous indignation from so many in the crowd, applauding and cheering earnestly like there has never been a more egregious foreign policy debacle in their lives.

But wait – there was! In fact, one that didn’t just cost 4 American lives, but over 4,000. Oh, and also countless other innocent lives. And nearly bankrupted the country. And was started on false pretenses. And lasted 10 years. And destabilized the region. And which Bush made light of after the fact.

Spare me, you Republican hypocrites. Every single one of you was calling any war opponent a traitor & terrorist sympathizer, and defending Bush to the end even after it was clear that they had deceived the public, to get us into a war. I can’t remember a more obvious example of blind partisan double-standards & false outrage.
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It is funny how you think that is the greatest example of blind partisan double standards and outrage. What a joke. Gas prices? Under Bush the world was ending and it was all his fault because of his Saudi's ties. Under Obama, no big deal and not his fault.

Hopefully you're more intelligent than this.
 
Rana said:
Seahawk, every thread is not all about you, the forum is not all about you, and the world is not all about you, that is all.
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I didn't say anything about me. But Thingy has stated in several threads that I am Yurt because I mention hypocrisy pathologically. You don't think it is fair I point out he does it more than I do and that his allegation is stupifying as he does it as well, so he must be Yurt by his own comments.
 
Meltdown? LOL.

Anything to avoid addressing that you do the very thing you claim Yurt did and that I do and that it somehow makes me Yurt. Why doesn't it make you Yurt?
 
Seahawk said:
Meltdown? LOL.

Anything to avoid addressing that you do the very thing you claim Yurt did and that I do and that it somehow makes me Yurt. Why doesn't it make you Yurt?
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I've explained it to you. Everyone talks about hypocrisy once in awhile. It's okay to talk about. Not everyone who talks about hypocrisy is Yurt.

It's the pathological behavior - the complete focus & obsession w/ it. That's the trademark.

I'm not going to explain it again. I'll probably bring up hypocrisy again, and you can have a field day w/ the whole Yurt/ego thing, but the difference is the disturbing obsession w/ it.
 
Thing1 said:
I've explained it to you. Everyone talks about hypocrisy once in awhile. It's okay to talk about. Not everyone who talks about hypocrisy is Yurt.

It's the pathological behavior - the complete focus & obsession w/ it. That's the trademark.

I'm not going to explain it again. I'll probably bring up hypocrisy again, and you can have a field day w/ the whole Yurt/ego thing, but the difference is the disturbing obsession w/ it.
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You say I'm pathological. Yet, you're the one who daily talks about and makes threads about it. You don't see that it is you who is pathological about it.

You make stuff all the time and are doing so here because you so desperately want me to be Yurt. I'm sorry you miss the guy so much, but I ain't him. Remember how well we got along until you thought I was him? The only thing that changed was you thinking I'm Yurt. Seems to me you didn't get along with Yurt, yet you got along with me. If I was Yurt, why would we get along? And why would I keep trying to get along with you?
 
Thing1 said:
It actually wasn't called the war resolution by anyone but the media. But like I said, whatever makes you feel better for enthusiastically supporting that debacle, and then talking about Benghazi like it's the worst thing that America has been involved in.
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NO shit, Dick Tracy.....thats probably why I said UNOFFICIALLY.....

Benghazi will always be a big deal because the State Dept, KNEW it was lacking security and Libya was hot bed of danger....they asked for some security and were denied...FACT
but the really repugnant issue was the fact that the State Dept. did not even make an ATTEMPT to send help....
Making it in time or actually saving lives was irrelevant....not even attempting to rescue them is unforgivable, despicable, repulsive and not what our
country has always stood for....
 
Rana said:
Pence also misstated the facts on Benghazi in his speech, and supported the Iraq War, MSNBC played the Benghazi hearing tape with Clinton's famous quote in context, and it is nothing like Pence portrayed.

He is a man that puts his faith above all else, and yet, he bears false witness. Sad.
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odd.....I listened to his whole speech and didn't hear any misstatement......perhaps MSNBC fucked up playing the tape.....
 
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