Mateen was a drinker and frequented the Gay bar
- Thread starter moon
- Start date
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
ISIL terrorist. He's even a closet gay, like all of the other associates.
moon
Satire for Sanity
Look at yourself. What a dumb belligerent twat.
cancel2 2022
Canceled
The Left seems to be trying to deny any terrorist link, in complete defiance of the facts. Does the attacker have to have a full membership badge, credentials and a history of Daesh membership to be labelled a terrorist, when even Obama uses the word? They are actively attempting to diminish the theological aspects of the crime. Presumably they'll next be claiming that victims thrown off of tall buildings were not necessarily being executed for being gay. This suppression of facts in favour of a 'Community Cohesion' that does not really exist is outrageous and very very dangerous because it denies theological hatred towards the LGBT community. It's an issue that should be brought out into open, not hidden.
moon
Satire for Sanity
What do you mean ' terrorist ' , dumbfuck ? The guy just slaughtered a clubfull of civilians. Of COURSE it's an act of terrorism, you clown- it's your desperation, and the desperation of barrel-scrapers like you, to associate it specifically with ISLAM which is pathetically incorrect and racist. You're a common-or-garden Islamophobe who gets his jollies by shrieking ' antisemitism ' anytime somebody criticizes fascism in Israel.
Apologize to the forum's Muslim members and fuck off.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
Someone call 911. Mateen did.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
Fuck the board's Muslim members (if there are any).
moon
Satire for Sanity
And there, folks , is the root of the problem of the Culture Wars.
Cancel 2016.11
Darla
That's pathetic 3d
not all of Islam,not even most of Islam, but certainly a part of Islam.
It's a cancerous interpretation, and it drives murdering apostates for a warped mindset.
Yes he was a "drinker" at the club. yes he frequented the club. also look at the FBI's statement that he was "radicalized" etc.
He was a screw up loser whom nobody would have missed, except he got involved with jihad.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
The 9/11 hijackers frequented strip clubs and very likely drank. To my understanding of _______ Islam, the mujahideen are permitted to indulge in sinful acts because martyrdom in jihad guarantees Paradise.
No fine print.
I've also heard jihadist recruiters instruct young trainees to eschew outward appearences of religiosity so as to not attract attention to themselves.
No fine print.
I've also heard jihadist recruiters instruct young trainees to eschew outward appearences of religiosity so as to not attract attention to themselves.
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
Think so?
Looks like he got religion and looked at online hate forums, and acted out of religious guilt, doesn't it?
At least the Second Amendment gives people like him the right to put their angst into action.
Cancel 2016.11
Darla
It's not true that this had nothing to do with radical jihad. It's clear now that he was watching a lot of online jihadist videos. Sermons, propaganda, and he was even seeking out beheading videos. IMO this insistence on everything be black or white, he was ISIL/radical islamic propaganda had no play here, is just so stupid. It's important we know the truth. To help prevent further incidents like this. Saving lives is what matters, not winning a message board debate on JPP, where 11 people post and 4 of them would be announced clinically dead if they were ever hooked up to an EEG.
He appears, at this point, to be the perfect storm. He is who ISIL is targeting. It's a known fact that ISIL cannot successfully pull off an operation within our borders, and that they have long been releasing propaganda videos encouraging "lone wolves" who are already in our country, many born here, to act. The targets are the angry, the disenfranchised, the mentally ill.
This guy appears to have been a closet homosexual whose father hated gays. His life is marked with violence against women, angry outbursts against coworkers, stalking, threats, etc. If he did not have a Muslim background he could be Dylan Roof or any other mass killer in our history. He would have popped off no matter what. But he was Muslim and he did seek out and view quantities of jihadist propaganda. He is the FBI's worst nightmare - the self-radicalized lone wolf. I accept that because I want to solve that. We'll never stop them all, but we can stop some, maybe many.
There are so MANY contributing factors here. There is radical islamic propaganda, there is homophobia, there is repressed homosexuality, there is misogyny, there is racism, there is mental illness. I mean, this is a cocktail.
There is one thing that stands out. A man with a long history of beating women, threatening co-workers, making radical statements that indicated an sympathy with radical jihadism, a man who was on the terrorist watch list for a time, and was questioned several times by the FBI etc, was able to easily and without question purchase an assault rifle.
It's time to take on the NRA. Those motherfuckers are terrorists. They are American terrorists. Start with passing the legislation that every Republican save one, voted down, that would prevent those on the terrorist watch list from buying guns. (there is an appeal process if you have been wrongly placed on there). Bring back the assault weapon ban. This is common sense. It's common sense. And backed by large majorities of americans of BOTH political parties, no matter what crazy shit you read online, including on here. An American terrorist organization has subverted the will of the people and prevented these common sense laws, that would save lives, from being passed. Yet the righties, who are sick in the head, will go all over talking about banning Muslims. Clearly un-American, clearly unconstitutional. Then they will tell you an assault weapons ban, which passed numerous court challenges when we had one, is unconstitutional. And if you swallow that? Hello dummy.
He appears, at this point, to be the perfect storm. He is who ISIL is targeting. It's a known fact that ISIL cannot successfully pull off an operation within our borders, and that they have long been releasing propaganda videos encouraging "lone wolves" who are already in our country, many born here, to act. The targets are the angry, the disenfranchised, the mentally ill.
This guy appears to have been a closet homosexual whose father hated gays. His life is marked with violence against women, angry outbursts against coworkers, stalking, threats, etc. If he did not have a Muslim background he could be Dylan Roof or any other mass killer in our history. He would have popped off no matter what. But he was Muslim and he did seek out and view quantities of jihadist propaganda. He is the FBI's worst nightmare - the self-radicalized lone wolf. I accept that because I want to solve that. We'll never stop them all, but we can stop some, maybe many.
There are so MANY contributing factors here. There is radical islamic propaganda, there is homophobia, there is repressed homosexuality, there is misogyny, there is racism, there is mental illness. I mean, this is a cocktail.
There is one thing that stands out. A man with a long history of beating women, threatening co-workers, making radical statements that indicated an sympathy with radical jihadism, a man who was on the terrorist watch list for a time, and was questioned several times by the FBI etc, was able to easily and without question purchase an assault rifle.
It's time to take on the NRA. Those motherfuckers are terrorists. They are American terrorists. Start with passing the legislation that every Republican save one, voted down, that would prevent those on the terrorist watch list from buying guns. (there is an appeal process if you have been wrongly placed on there). Bring back the assault weapon ban. This is common sense. It's common sense. And backed by large majorities of americans of BOTH political parties, no matter what crazy shit you read online, including on here. An American terrorist organization has subverted the will of the people and prevented these common sense laws, that would save lives, from being passed. Yet the righties, who are sick in the head, will go all over talking about banning Muslims. Clearly un-American, clearly unconstitutional. Then they will tell you an assault weapons ban, which passed numerous court challenges when we had one, is unconstitutional. And if you swallow that? Hello dummy.
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
hmm. I can't find any text. But I think you got it. that is a very astute observation!
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
Omar the shooter says it, and you swallow it.
"got religion"? he was religious. I heard he went to mosque 3-4 times a week. whether that was new behavior of not -I don't know( got).
Religious guilt? Hard to say there also- religion was a prime factor ( like all worldwide terrorism, with minor exceptions).
I hate guns more then most, but it also appears he cleared the FBI checks.. was that a semiautomatic?
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
I'm glad you support the NRA's lobbying campaign that keeps high-capacity magazines available to members of the well-regulated militia. You're a true American hero.
"martyrdom trumps prior sins, meaning those last carnal indulgences were committed in full knowledge that the slate would be wiped clean by a righteous death"
I'm pretty sure of my understanding that I copied the above
now you're making stuff up. I'd gladly tear out the 2nd amendment from the Constitution. It's upto SCOTUS -
go for the ban -i'm all in