Mateen was a drinker and frequented the Gay bar

anatta said:
"martyrdom trumps prior sins, meaning those last carnal indulgences were committed in full knowledge that the slate would be wiped clean by a righteous death" I'm pretty sure of my understanding that I copied the above
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So you say.
 
anatta said:
now you're making stuff up. I'd gladly tear out the 2nd amendment from the Constitution. It's upto SCOTUS -
go for the ban -i'm all in
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That would result in armed rebellion by the well-regulated militia, wouldn't it? After all, resistance to tyranny is the reason shooter Omar could buy all the weapons he needs to shoot 102 people.
 
Legion Troll said:
That would result in armed rebellion by the well-regulated militia, wouldn't it? After all, resistance to tyranny is the reason shooter Omar could buy all the weapons he needs to shoot 102 people.
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chill. armed rebellion ain't happening. can we get back to topic? The 2nd is an individual right, independent of "a well regulated militia"
 
Darla said:
It's not true that this had nothing to do with radical jihad. It's clear now that he was watching a lot of online jihadist videos. Sermons, propaganda, and he was even seeking out beheading videos. IMO this insistence on everything be black or white, he was ISIL/radical islamic propaganda had no play here, is just so stupid. It's important we know the truth. To help prevent further incidents like this. Saving lives is what matters, not winning a message board debate on JPP, where 11 people post and 4 of them would be announced clinically dead if they were ever hooked up to an EEG.

He appears, at this point, to be the perfect storm. He is who ISIL is targeting. It's a known fact that ISIL cannot successfully pull off an operation within our borders, and that they have long been releasing propaganda videos encouraging "lone wolves" who are already in our country, many born here, to act. The targets are the angry, the disenfranchised, the mentally ill.

This guy appears to have been a closet homosexual whose father hated gays. His life is marked with violence against women, angry outbursts against coworkers, stalking, threats, etc. If he did not have a Muslim background he could be Dylan Roof or any other mass killer in our history. He would have popped off no matter what. But he was Muslim and he did seek out and view quantities of jihadist propaganda. He is the FBI's worst nightmare - the self-radicalized lone wolf. I accept that because I want to solve that. We'll never stop them all, but we can stop some, maybe many.

There are so MANY contributing factors here. There is radical islamic propaganda, there is homophobia, there is repressed homosexuality, there is misogyny, there is racism, there is mental illness. I mean, this is a cocktail.

There is one thing that stands out. A man with a long history of beating women, threatening co-workers, making radical statements that indicated an sympathy with radical jihadism, a man who was on the terrorist watch list for a time, and was questioned several times by the FBI etc, was able to easily and without question purchase an assault rifle.

It's time to take on the NRA. Those motherfuckers are terrorists. They are American terrorists. Start with passing the legislation that every Republican save one, voted down, that would prevent those on the terrorist watch list from buying guns. (there is an appeal process if you have been wrongly placed on there). Bring back the assault weapon ban. This is common sense. It's common sense. And backed by large majorities of americans of BOTH political parties, no matter what crazy shit you read online, including on here. An American terrorist organization has subverted the will of the people and prevented these common sense laws, that would save lives, from being passed. Yet the righties, who are sick in the head, will go all over talking about banning Muslims. Clearly un-American, clearly unconstitutional. Then they will tell you an assault weapons ban, which passed numerous court challenges when we had one, is unconstitutional. And if you swallow that? Hello dummy.
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For someone who claims to not fear anything, your last paragraph is wrapped in fear.

It is filled with lies and fear. But keep tilting at windmills. After events like these, more people will want to buy guns not less.

Cry harder.
 
Darla said:
It's not true that this had nothing to do with radical jihad. It's clear now that he was watching a lot of online jihadist videos. .
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You can't be seriously suggesting that most Internet users haven't had a look ?
 
Funny Darcula thinks someone who is one "the terror watchlist" shouldn't own a gun but is fine with him working for the gobblement.

PS

He passed every background check libtards claim to want. Not one libtard is talking about that and keep spreading the lie that it "is easy to get guns"


As an aside, I am enjoying watching the talking heads on Morning Shmo cry as hard as JPP liberals
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The 9/11 hijackers frequented strip clubs and very likely drank. To my understanding of _______ Islam, the mujahideen are permitted to indulge in sinful acts because martyrdom in jihad guarantees Paradise.

No fine print.

I've also heard jihadist recruiters instruct young trainees to eschew outward appearences of religiosity so as to not attract attention to themselves.
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Yeah- this guy was a frequenter of gay clubs who drank, beat up on his wife and collected lethal weapons. He must have been trying to disguise himself as a closet redneck.
 
Bedwetter said:
Libtards assure us that if we ban guns nobody will ever dies from violence. They guarentee it Just like France
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Cons assure us that if we don't ban guns nobody will ever die from violence. They guarantee it. Just like America.

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moon2012 said:
Yeah- this guy was a frequenter of gay clubs who drank, beat up on his wife and collected lethal weapons. He must have been trying to disguise himself as a closet redneck.
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Do we have proof he beat up his wife or just her word for it? I remember when women claimed muslime men sexually assaulted them and JPP lefties wanted more proof
 
anatta said:
don't see it specifically. It does about the supremacy of Jihad (etc.) the Hadiths etc.
I'm good with that. Islamic imposition of a caliphate is paramount going into the 12th Iman (Shi'a) blah blah
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Shooter Omar wouldn't shoot you some bull, would he?

He's a "straight shooter".
 
anatta said:
don't see it specifically.
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In Islamic practice, the martyr is one killed in jihad. He is entitled to special status in paradise and on Judgment Day. In Judaism and Christianity, a martyr is someone who endures torture and death rather than renounce his or her belief.[9]

Trip to Paradise, ostensibly, no matter what else they do.

Remember a while back when the FBI training manuals were purged of jihad-study? [how friggin insane is that?] Have to wonder if FBI people even know this sort of stuff or whether such knowledge has been deemed politically incorrect.

'Well, Omar Mateen frequents gay bars so apparently we don't need to watch him any more'.
 
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