Poll shows Trump is AHEAD of Hillary for the first time in presidential race

Mott the Hoople said:
I see a lot of Maggy Thatcher in Hillary.
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I don't, Maggie was a scientist with a chemistry degree. She actually did a real job before going into politics. Clinton is just another ignoramus spouting platitudes especially on climate change.

The truth behind this story is much more interesting than is generally realised, not least because it has a fascinating twist. Certainly, Mrs Thatcher was the first world leader to voice alarm over global warming, back in 1988, With her scientific background, she had fallen under the spell of Sir Crispin Tickell, then our man at the UN. In the 1970s, he had written a book warning that the world was cooling, but he had since become an ardent convert to the belief that it was warming, Under his influence, as she recorded in her memoirs, she made a series of speeches, in Britain and to world bodies, calling for urgent international action, and citing evidence given to the US Senate by the arch-alarmist Jim Hansen, head of Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

She found equally persuasive the views of a third prominent convert to the cause, Dr John Houghton, then head of the UK Met Office. She backed him in the setting up of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in 1988, and promised the Met Office lavish funding for its Hadley Centre, which she opened in 1990, as a world authority on "human-induced climate change".

Hadley then linked up with East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit (CRU) to become custodians of the most prestigious of the world's surface temperature records (alongside another compiled by Dr Hansen). This became the central nexus of influence driving a worldwide scare over global warming; and so it remains to this day – not least thanks to the key role of Houghton (now Sir John) in shaping the first three mammoth reports which established the IPCC's unequalled authority on the subject.

In bringing this about, Mrs Thatcher played an important part. It is not widely appreciated, however, that there was a dramatic twist to her story. In 2003, towards the end of her last book, Statecraft, in a passage headed "Hot Air and Global Warming", she issued what amounts to an almost complete recantation of her earlier views.

She voiced precisely the fundamental doubts about the warming scare that have since become familiar to us. Pouring scorn on the "doomsters", she questioned the main scientific assumptions used to drive the scare, from the conviction that the chief force shaping world climate is CO2, rather than natural factors such as solar activity, to exaggerated claims about rising sea levels. She mocked Al Gore and the futility of "costly and economically damaging" schemes to reduce CO2 emissions. She cited the 2.5C rise in temperatures during the Medieval Warm Period as having had almost entirely beneficial effects. She pointed out that the dangers of a world getting colder are far worse than those of a CO2-enriched world growing warmer. She recognised how distortions of the science had been used to mask an anti-capitalist, Left-wing political agenda which posed a serious threat to the progress and prosperity of mankind.

In other words, long before it became fashionable, Lady Thatcher was converted to the view of those who, on both scientific and political grounds, are profoundly sceptical of the climate change ideology. Alas, what she set in train earlier continues to exercise its baleful influence to this day. But the fact that she became one of the first and most prominent of "climate sceptics" has been almost entirely buried from view.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...garet-Thatcher-the-first-climate-sceptic.html
 
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Jarod said:
You jokers are silly, if a woman votes for HRC is must be because she is a woman... not because Trump has shown himself to be a misogynistic pig.
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trump really hasn't said that many bad things, its' been overblown by the media, also anyone with a brain can tell he's trolling
 
Milagro said:
My mate Mickey Foote met Trump a couple of times when he was head of a campaign group to stop building a links golf course on the Aberdeen coast. Even though he detested him he did admit that the guy is very charismatic. His other claim to fame is that he was the producer and sound engineer on the Clash's first album. Oh and I am very smart far more so than you.
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I am sure you are, I have never claimed to be smart, so, you don't insult me by claiming to be smarter, but next time, in your claim to be more intelligent, you may wish to use some punctuation.

I just always thought Grind was more intelligent than yourself, and I still do, he even has more charm than you, lately.
 
Cohort Trickster said:
makes me wonder why the liberals think he'll be the next lucifer then. on paper you make him sound better than hillary from a liberal perspective.. lol.
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He is better than Hillary on some issues, but the problem is, we don't know the real Trump from the fake and what he will do at any given moment, like it has been stated he is unstable. His positions change with his mood.
 
Rana said:
The problem with that is, change comes from within the system, not from without.

Congress is still establishment, and I see them resisting Trump more than Hillary just because he is an outsider.

The change has to come locally, by state elections and then the Presidency.
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Trump is such a wild card..I don't have anything to compare him to. I doubt we'll find out though. I can't see him going anywhere.
 
Cohort Trickster said:
trump really hasn't said that many bad things, its' been overblown by the media, also anyone with a brain can tell he's trolling
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He hasn't, but you know the Pussy Patrol. They take offense at any little slight and are ever vigilant to find instances of mysogyny. Personally, I think they are just glad there is a big word they can spell. We all know what horrible spellers women are
 
anatta said:
Trump is such a wild card..I don't have anything to compare him to. I doubt we'll find out though. I can't see him going anywhere.
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The suggestion that Trump is an outsider is truly laughable, he has been lobbying and smoozing those arseholes on Capitol Hill for the past twenty years. He knows where all the bodies are buried!
 
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Jarod said:
You jokers are silly, if a woman votes for HRC is must be because she is a woman... not because Trump has shown himself to be a misogynistic pig.
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I don't think every woman votes with their va-jay-jay. But, it is clear that many do. Rana has already indicated that she wasn't going to vote for Shrillary, but then Trump talked mean to her. If that isn't playing the woman card what is?
 
cawacko said:
I'm speaking about two things. I disagree with the premise that men don't like Hillary because she's a woman. Partisan politics trump that (no pun intended).

Women may vote for Hillary over Trump but that doesn't mean all women support Hillary. Again, the polls show her support among women not to be high.
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Well that kind of concurs with what I've said. A lot of partisan vitriol, on both sides, isn't rational either.
 
Cohort Trickster said:
it's a hate fuck election, as bill maher puts it.
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Bill must be losing his sense of humor. I can't remember a primary process that I've enjoyed as much as this one and derived so many laughs. Who the hell knows what will happen next but one things for sure. It will be interesting. :)

Now if I just had someone to vote for that I actually liked.
 
I Love America said:
I don't think every woman votes with their va-jay-jay. But, it is clear that many do. Rana has already indicated that she wasn't going to vote for Shrillary, but then Trump talked mean to her. If that isn't playing the woman card what is?
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Girls will vote for hrc, women will vote for Trump.

If vahjayjays or meanietalk are a deciding factor you're too childish to vote.
 
Milagro said:
I don't, Maggie was a scientist with a chemistry degree. She actually did a real job before going into politics. Clinton is just another ignoramus spouting platitudes especially on climate change.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...garet-Thatcher-the-first-climate-sceptic.html
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Tom. You don't know much about HC then. She's far better educated than Thatcher. Clinton has did her undergraduate degree at Swarthmore, where she was President of the Young Republicans club. She also earned a Juris Doctrate at Yale and also did post graduate studies at Yale. A BS in Chemistry is a fine degree but it's not even close to the same level as a JD from Yale.

In addition Clinton was a successful practicing attorney, who earned full partnership at the Rose Law Firm, and part time graduate school instructor until 1992. She wasn't even really involved in politics until Bill ran for POTUS in 92. When I met her in late 1990 she was still a practicing attorney and not a politician.
 
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