Poll shows Trump is AHEAD of Hillary for the first time in presidential race

NOVA said:
You shake in your shoes and wet your pants about what Trump or Cruz might or might not do in your imagination and refuse to recognize the damage

thats already before your very eyes that Obama has already done to the country.....
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Yeah. Such a bummer that the DOW is about 10K higher than it was in '08 & companies are hiring again.

What incredible damage.
 
cawacko said:
Is that strictly because of her gender or because more women are Democrats and she's a Democrat?
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or maybe cause Trump has said some really stupid mysognistic things about women that have alienated them? Women will decide this next election, make no mistake about that. Do you seriously think they will support Trump after the comments he has made? Do you think all the young female Bernie supporters are going to rally to Trump?

There's a reason why Kasich is viewed as the only electable GOP candidate in the general. He's the only one that women even like.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
or maybe cause Trump has said some really stupid mysognistic things about women that have alienated them? Women will decide this next election, make no mistake about that. Do you seriously think they will support Trump after the comments he has made? Do you think all the young female Bernie supporters are going to rally to Trump?
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I'm speaking about two things. I disagree with the premise that men don't like Hillary because she's a woman. Partisan politics trump that (no pun intended).

Women may vote for Hillary over Trump but that doesn't mean all women support Hillary. Again, the polls show her support among women not to be high.
 
cawacko said:
I'm speaking about two things. I disagree with the premise that men don't like Hillary because she's a woman. Partisan politics trump that (no pun intended).

Women may vote for Hillary over Trump but that doesn't mean all women support Hillary. Again, the polls show her support among women not to be high.
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Where? You keep repeating this, but I haven't seen the numbers!
 
cawacko said:
I'm speaking about Hillary's approval rating with women. I'm not speaking about how Hillary would do vs. Trump with women.
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Show me the numbers! I see where she has 66% disapproval with men, but I don't see these numbers with women.
 
cawacko said:
Because it's true. You saw the NRO article. Hillary couldn't win the Democratic primary in 2008 and more Democrats are women than men.
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It's because Obama was such a phenom with women, not because they disliked Hillary.
 
Milagro said:
Yes I've heard that said especially by Nate Silver, however we shall see. I think that I mainly want him to win because it will cause so many liberals to have complete mental breakdowns especially the likes of Desh, Rana, Leon and Zippy.
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i agree. Seeing Clinton lose would be the best schadenfreude ever.
 
Rana said:
It isn't the liberals who are going freak out anyway.

He supports single payer insurance

He supports LBGT rights

He supports isolationism

He supports job programs

He supports changing the tax system

His views are much more liberal than conservative, except for immigration and closing borders to certain segments of the population, his ideals line up more with liberals than conservatives.

I worry about about his mouth and his ego.

I worry that he won't listen to advisors or pick people with no experience, like Bush did.

I worry about the damage he could do to us internationally.
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that is very well thought out. I too worry about his mouth and his ego.
I also worry he will not take the effort to improve his knowledge (his "believe me's" only go so far)

Yet I like him for being completely outside the establishment...
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You know every time I ask someone who passionately opposes Hillary I rarely get nothing substantive from them other than ad hom talking points from right wing sources. Bernie....phlllbbbt he's nothing more than a throw back to the new deal era Democrats. He's hardly a radical. It's just that segments of the nation have drifted so far to the right that he appears to be.

In terms of ability...I see HC as certainly the best qualified and certainly the strongest leader and I think that's where she alienates lots of men. Something about a hard assed female leader that just puts them off their milque toast.
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It's her judgement thst is awful.

Libya
Iraq
Syria
Russian reset

Her big donors
wall street speeches she won't release.
Her preferred incrementalism, while saying Bernie "disses" Obama by wanting Single pay ( there's more -those off the top of my head)
 
You jokers are silly, if a woman votes for HRC is must be because she is a woman... not because Trump has shown himself to be a misogynistic pig.
 
Rana said:
It isn't the liberals who are going freak out anyway.

He supports single payer insurance

He supports LBGT rights

He supports isolationism

He supports job programs

He supports changing the tax system

His views are much more liberal than conservative, except for immigration and closing borders to certain segments of the population, his ideals line up more with liberals than conservatives.

I worry about about his mouth and his ego.

I worry that he won't listen to advisors or pick people with no experience, like Bush did.

I worry about the damage he could do to us internationally.
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makes me wonder why the liberals think he'll be the next lucifer then. on paper you make him sound better than hillary from a liberal perspective.. lol.
 
Rana said:
I thought you were smarter than Tom, sigh
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My mate Mickey Foote met Trump a couple of times when he was head of a campaign group to stop him building a links golf course on the Aberdeenshire coast. Even though he detested him he did admit that the guy is very charismatic. His other claim to fame is that he was the producer and sound engineer on the Clash's first album. Oh and I am very smart far more so than you.
 
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anatta said:
that is very well thought out. I too worry about his mouth and his ego.
I also worry he will not take the effort to improve his knowledge (his "believe me's" only go so far)

Yet I like him for being completely outside the establishment...
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The problem with that is, change comes from within the system, not from without.

Congress is still establishment, and I see them resisting Trump more than Hillary just because he is an outsider.

The change has to come locally, by state elections and then the Presidency.
 
I noticed that none of the liberals bashing this poll have said a word about Troll's thread that alleges the numbers show Hillary winning.

LOL

Any poll this far out is pretty much worthless.
 
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