Harry, cows, and law breakers

but instead of going further with PEACEFUL judiciary proceedings (something they are NOW doing) they went for an immediate show of armed and life threatening force.


ROTFLMAO...Oh that is too RICH!

So now you claim the Government went for an IMMEDIATE show of force?

Even thought his Bundy clown had been violating the law for 20+ years?

SY never met a double standard he didn't like...


do you even know which law he was alleged to have violated that prompted a violent firefight and raid by the ATF?


He was accused of MOLESTING THE CHILDREN of his followers...something you obviously didn't and still DON'T have a problem with.


blah blah blah, more gov koolaid. they were being fired upon and some of those that tried to escape from the compound were gunned down by the feds.

They were being fired upon because they had OPENED FIRE on ATF agents approaching the compound.

Come on...make some MORE excuses for that child raping bastard!
 
ROTFLMAO...Oh that is too RICH!

So now you claim the Government went for an IMMEDIATE show of force?

Even thought his Bundy clown had been violating the law for 20+ years?

SY never met a double standard he didn't like...
as usual, you are wrong


He was accused of MOLESTING THE CHILDREN of his followers...something you obviously didn't and still DON'T have a problem with.
are you really that stupid to think that the ATF performed a raid for child molestation? what year did crimes against children become the purview of the ATF? i guess you are that stupid.

They were being fired upon because they had OPENED FIRE on ATF agents approaching the compound.
where is your proof of that? other than your lies from the government report, that is.

Come on...make some MORE excuses for that child raping bastard!
you have proof of these allegations? or are you swallowing Renos koolaid still?
 
you should place this upon ranas shoulders, especially since she went down the muslim terrorist comparison path.


Here we find the low information voter STY continuing his desperate attempt to hijack the thread.

His repeated displays of compassion for the domestic TERRORISTS in Nevada have garnered him attention he doesn't want and made him uncomfortable, so it's time to hijack the thread.
 
as usual, you are wrong


And as usual...you don't supply one iota of proof to back your claim.


are you really that stupid to think that the ATF performed a raid for child molestation? what year did crimes against children become the purview of the ATF? i guess you are that stupid.


You think the local Barney Fife was eager to charge into an ARMED COMPOUND to get answers?

The ATF was called to deal with nutjobs BARRICADED inside an ARMED and fortified COMPOUND.


where is your proof of that? other than your lies from the government report, that is.


Where is your proof the Government report is lies?


you have proof of these allegations? or are you swallowing Renos koolaid still?


Yes, the fact Koresh wouldn't come out of the compound to respond to the charges made.

An innocent man wants his name cleared...a GUILTY man hides away.
 
And as usual...you don't supply one iota of proof to back your claim.





You think the local Barney Fife was eager to charge into an ARMED COMPOUND to get answers?

The ATF was called to deal with nutjobs BARRICADED inside an ARMED and fortified COMPOUND.





Where is your proof the Government report is lies?





Yes, the fact Koresh wouldn't come out of the compound to respond to the charges made.

An innocent man wants his name cleared...a GUILTY man hides away.


They support terrorism to bring change, how are Muslim terrorists different from themselves?
 
And as usual...you don't supply one iota of proof to back your claim.
if you are going to spout claims without proof, i'm just as capable of doing the same. so stop bitching about it unless you provide facts and evidence first.

You think the local Barney Fife was eager to charge into an ARMED COMPOUND to get answers?

The ATF was called to deal with nutjobs BARRICADED inside an ARMED and fortified COMPOUND.
stop being a fool and answer the question. WHY was the ATF performing a raid on the compound?

Where is your proof the Government report is lies?
the same place that the governments proof is that the compound fired first.

Yes, the fact Koresh wouldn't come out of the compound to respond to the charges made.

An innocent man wants his name cleared...a GUILTY man hides away.
you are projecting your own cowardice upon others. not everybody deals with issues the same as you, so you're statement means jack shit. it's called innocent until proven guilty, but you have no use for our judicial system because you automatically assume guilt since you don't approve of violence by anyone but the gov.
 
if you are going to spout claims without proof, i'm just as capable of doing the same. so stop bitching about it unless you provide facts and evidence first.

Y-O-U stated the Government went for an "IMMEDIATE show of force"

I proved your statement to be FALSE.

Y-O-U then claimed I was wrong, but can't show how...

I provided proof...you still cannot.

stop being a fool and answer the question. WHY was the ATF performing a raid on the compound?


You wont answer my questions but still expect me to answer yours...typical.


the same place that the governments proof is that the compound fired first.


So we agree the Davidians fired first...good. You are making progress.


you are projecting your own cowardice upon others. not everybody deals with issues the same as you, so you're statement means jack shit. it's called innocent until proven guilty, but you have no use for our judicial system because you automatically assume guilt since you don't approve of violence by anyone but the gov.


"Innocent until proven guilty..."

The very same guy who paints every single cop everywhere with the same brush and who automatically assumes their guilt, with or without corroborating evidence, presumes to lecture me on the topic of "innocent until proven guilty"

ROTFLMAO!!
 
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assumes facts not in evidence. you swallowed the koolaid gov report that the davidians fired first, but what EVIDENCE do you have to support that?


Former Sen. John Danforth, the special counsel assigned by the Justice Department to investigate the deadly 1993 federal raid on the Branch Davidian complex in Waco, Texas, issued his preliminary findings Friday. After years of GOP rhetoric that Janet Reno’s minions conducted warfare against David Koresh’s sect, Republican stalwart Danforth concluded with “100 percent certainty” that the attorney general and the federal government were not guilty of any wrongdoing.

“The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of David Koresh. This is not a close call,” Danforth told reporters at a press conference in St. Louis.

The report concluded that “[g]overnment agents did not start or spread the tragic fire of April 19, 1993, did not direct gunfire at the Branch Davidians, and did not unlawfully employ the armed forces of the United States.”

http://www.salon.com/2000/07/25/waco_11/

Now, let's see what "evidence" you've got hat shows the ATF fired first.
 
The thing I don't understand about the Bundy supporters, if they don't acknowledge the USA government, why do they display the stars and stripes? It baffles me.
Because they don't acknowledge THIS particular government, and for good reason.

What's interesting is that it took this particular government, the most evolved, sensitive and enlightened of them all, to lower its righteousness on one lowly cattle rancher.
 
Former Sen. John Danforth, the special counsel assigned by the Justice Department to investigate the deadly 1993 federal raid on the Branch Davidian complex in Waco, Texas, issued his preliminary findings Friday. After years of GOP rhetoric that Janet Reno’s minions conducted warfare against David Koresh’s sect, Republican stalwart Danforth concluded with “100 percent certainty” that the attorney general and the federal government were not guilty of any wrongdoing.

“The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of David Koresh. This is not a close call,” Danforth told reporters at a press conference in St. Louis.

The report concluded that “[g]overnment agents did not start or spread the tragic fire of April 19, 1993, did not direct gunfire at the Branch Davidians, and did not unlawfully employ the armed forces of the United States.”

http://www.salon.com/2000/07/25/waco_11/

Now, let's see what "evidence" you've got hat shows the ATF fired first.


Thats the gov. motto...."If you don't believe me, just ask me".....

Funny that you didn't believe a thing the gov. said when Bush was President....but for Clinton and Obama, everything they say is the truth.....
What the fuck could be more honest than the gov. investigating itself for the truth....ie...Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious, etc.
 
Thats the gov. motto...."If you don't believe me, just ask me".....

Funny that you didn't believe a thing the gov. said when Bush was President....but for Clinton and Obama, everything they say is the truth.....
What the fuck could be more honest than the gov. investigating itself for the truth....ie...Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious, etc.

especially when they would be liable for millions for the wrong doing. and I do mean MILLIONS.
 
Thats the gov. motto...."If you don't believe me, just ask me".....

Funny that you didn't believe a thing the gov. said when Bush was President....but for Clinton and Obama, everything they say is the truth.....
What the fuck could be more honest than the gov. investigating itself for the truth....ie...Benghazi, IRS, Fast and Furious, etc.


In other words, you've got BUPKIS to counter the FACTS I presented.
 
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