Harry, cows, and law breakers

I get upset with dumbasses that defend murder for an excuse to condemn what they perceive as murder. I get upset when I see those that enjoy most of what this free and marvelously developed nation then condemn it and refuse to make their personally obligated contributions to it. I get upset when I see those that preach freedom are the first to deny freedom. I could go on and on but for certain I am not angry. I am only concerned and truthful about it and there is no reason to lie about these matters. Lies from the rightwingnuts to justify their own hypocrisies is another thing I get upset about.

Laughing at ignorance is always best for all involved!!!!!!
 
LilliesWhiteLies said:
I get upset with dumbasses that defend murder for an excuse to condemn what they perceive as murder. I get upset when I see those that enjoy most of what this free and marvelously developed nation then condemn it and refuse to make their personally obligated contributions to it. I get upset when I see those that preach freedom are the first to deny freedom. I could go on and on but for certain I am not angry. I am only concerned and truthful about it and there is no reason to lie about these matters. Lies from the rightwingnuts to justify their own hypocrisies is another thing I get upset about.

Laughing at ignorance is always best for all involved!!!!!!
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do you also get upset with dumbasses that defend murder as self defense simply because they wear a badge?
 
Sardonic said:
Which party would that be?

Basically, you are the same as a Muslim terrorists in that you kill people to advance your cause because your beliefs are not popular enough to be accepted by the majority.
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just curious, but would you see the siege at waco as the same thing, or are you too blinded by your government love to see that and choose instead to believe that it's all the fault of koresh, even though he was behind the walls and not driving the tanks?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
just curious, but would you see the siege at waco as the same thing, or are you too blinded by your government love to see that and choose instead to believe that it's all the fault of koresh, even though he was behind the walls and not driving the tanks?
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David Koresch was a monster. I do not approve of the way his compound was overcome by the Feds, but this man was willing to let people die instead of surrendering. What went on in that compound was evil.

The fact that you support this man is disturbing to me.
 
Sardonic said:
David Koresch was a monster. I do not approve of the way his compound was overcome by the Feds, but this man was willing to let people die instead of surrendering. What went on in that compound was evil.

The fact that you support this man is disturbing to me.
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the fact that you're totally willing to overlook the governments flagrant violation of the rule of law is disturbing to me. it's also disturbing that you're still swallowing the gov koolaid on the story. the fact that you're disturbed by my support forcing the government to work within it's own laws tells me more about you than anything else.

anyway, since you do NOT approve of the feds overwhelming use of force, would you then have supported armed militia threatening the feds to prevent such slaughter until a more peaceful solution could have developed?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the fact that you're totally willing to overlook the governments flagrant violation of the rule of law is disturbing to me. it's also disturbing that you're still swallowing the gov koolaid on the story. the fact that you're disturbed by my support forcing the government to work within it's own laws tells me more about you than anything else.

anyway, since you do NOT approve of the feds overwhelming use of force, would you then have supported armed militia threatening the feds to prevent such slaughter until a more peaceful solution could have developed?
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The government did work within the law with Bundy. He is the one breaking the law and ignoring multiple court orders.

Koresch also broke the law and endangered his own people with his actions.

He hid behind women and children, just like Bundy and his outlaws were going to do.


You support anarchy and violent rebellion, you need a mental evaluation to make sure your owning guns is a safe thing.
i now understand why you object to such evaluations to own firearms.
 
Sardonic said:
The government did work within the law with Bundy. He is the one breaking the law and ignoring multiple court orders.
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but instead of going further with PEACEFUL judiciary proceedings (something they are NOW doing) they went for an immediate show of armed and life threatening force.

Sardonic said:
Koresch also broke the law and endangered his own people with his actions.
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do you even know which law he was alleged to have violated that prompted a violent firefight and raid by the ATF?

Sardonic said:
He hid behind women and children, just like Bundy and his outlaws were going to do.
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blah blah blah, more gov koolaid. they were being fired upon and some of those that tried to escape from the compound were gunned down by the feds.

Sardonic said:
You support anarchy and violent rebellion, you need a mental evaluation to make sure your owning guns is a safe thing.
i now understand why you object to such evaluations to own firearms.
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come and take them.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
but instead of going further with PEACEFUL judiciary proceedings (something they are NOW doing) they went for an immediate show of armed and life threatening force.

do you even know which law he was alleged to have violated that prompted a violent firefight and raid by the ATF?

blah blah blah, more gov koolaid. they were being fired upon and some of those that tried to escape from the compound were gunned down by the feds.

come and take them.
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They had peacefully tried to deal with Bundy for nearly two decades, you are ridiculous.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
if they were out of all legal options, they would not be NOW pursuing other legal judicial options. not acknowledging that is ridiculous
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They had the right to take his assets, legally, he was wend, and warned and further warned. He did not comply. His bad. He is not a hero, he is a law breaker. Your trying to justify his actions shows you are an anarchist, no regard for the rule of law.
 
Sardonic said:
They had the right to take his assets, legally, he was wend, and warned and further warned. He did not comply. His bad. He is not a hero, he is a law breaker. Your trying to justify his actions shows you are an anarchist, no regard for the rule of law.
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no regard for the rule of law? that makes you as guilty as I, because you have approved of the ends justifying the means in other circumstances. welcome to the anarchy club.

again, YOU say they had the right to take his assets, over 1,000 individual american citizens disagreed. we won.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
if you cannot see the difference in how I post about my constitutional beliefs, then you're just too blinded by your own partisan hackery.
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Well gee, a sane person would want to make a clear delineation between himself and Muslim terrorists...but not you!


So there is no difference between you and a Muslim terrorist...understood.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Well gee, a sane person would want to make a clear delineation between himself and Muslim terrorists...but not you!


So there is no difference between you and a Muslim terrorist...understood.
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I already delineated the difference. you and yours are the ones muddying it because you worship big government nanny state.
 
LilliesWhiteLies said:
You're pretty dumb, aren't you? And I am talking to YOU.
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Its just one of the NUMEROUS cowardly evasions your average low information Rightie resorts to when he finds the discussion making him uncomfortable and he wants to divert and derail a thread.

They supposedly are college educated, yet they can't determine who you were responding to on a message board.
 
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