9 Out Of 10 Americans Are Completely Wrong About This Mind-Blowing Fact

Truth Detector said:
This is incredibly false and dimwitted; do you have any evidence that supports your incredibly false claim here?

I believe your screen name is an oxymoron; there is nothing “wise” about your posts. I would guess you are under 30 years of age based on your posts.
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What was the percentage rate for the rich in Reagan years? 35%? Now there are so many ways to cut that number in half. I believe Asshat supplied the chart of which you went silent upon reading.lol

Like most of your guesses? You guessed wrong.lol Only the naïve believe that the wealthy pay the most taxes.
 
2005
Seven major national unions, representing six million workers, disaffiliate from the AFL-CIO and, in September, form a new coalition called "Change to Win", devoted to organizing.
2004
70,000 Southern California grocery workers strike Safeway to protect their health benefits and stop imposition of a vicious two-tier wage system.
2001
March 29, the 500,000-member United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners announced that it was disaffiliating with the national AFL-CIO because of differences in the direction of the labor movement.
April 5, 10,000 Public school teachers and 3000 state university faculty in Hawaii shut down all public education in the State in the nation's first state-wide education strike.

1997
In a big win for their members and all of organized labor, the Teamsters reach a new five-year agreement with United Parcel Service (UPS) on Aug. 18, ending a two-week strike over abuse of part-time workers and health care for retirees.
1995
The 123,000-member I.L.G.W.U. and the 129,000-member A.C.T.W.U. merge to form the new Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees (UNITE).
1994
The longest players' strike in sports history (232 days) is conducted by the Major League Players Association against National and American League owners.
1993
a five day strike of 21,000 American Airlines' flight attendants, virtually shutting the airline down is ended when Pres. Clinton persuades the owners to arbirate the dispute.
1993
The Family and Medical leave Act is passed.
1992
The founding convention of the AFL-CIO's Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance (APALA) is held from April 30 to May 2 in Washington D.C.
1991
On September 3rd the Imperial Food Products fire in Hamlet, North Carolina where, despite a federally approved state OSHA program, 25 poultry processing workers are killed, 49 injured.
1990
7500 hotel worker and members of HERE, Local 5 strike 11 major hotels from March 3 to March 24 to protect their pension benefits.
June 15, LAPD officers attacked a group of 400 non-violent demonstrators in the SEIU "Justice for Janitors" campaign in the Century City strike against that high-rise commercial office area of Los Angeles.

1989
The United Mine Workers of America wildcat strike of the Pittston Coal Group in Virginia spreads across the eastern coalfields involving up to 50,000 miners in 11 states. Using non-violence and civil disobedience, the miners win a contract after a bitter nine-month struggle.
1981
The Professional Air Traffic Controllers Association struck in defiance of the law. Newly elected President Ronald Reagan fired all the strikers and broke the union, sanctioning the practice of hiring "permanent replacements" for striking workers. Solidarity day labor rally draws 400,000 to the Mall in Washington D.C.
1979
Douglas Fraser becomes first labor leader elected to board of directors of a major corporation (Chrysler).
1978
The Federal Service Labor-Management Relations Statute [p.l. 95-454, 5 U.S.C. §7101 et seq.], also known as Title VII of the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, grants by statute collective bargaining to federal workers which had been subject to executive order.
1976
January 2, President Ford vetoes Common Situs Picketing Bill; in aftermath Dunlop issues statement of resignation.
1975
July 1, Cesar Chavez and sixty supporters of the UFW embarked on a thousand-mile march across California to rally the state's farm workers.
July 30, former Teamsters union president Jimmy Hoffa disappears from the parking lot of the Machus Red fox Restaurant in suburban Detroit. Although presumed dead, his remains have never been found.

1974
March 22, the founding convention of the Coalition of Labor Union Women (CLUW) in Chicago elects Olga Madar its first president.
September 2, Employee Retirement Income Security Act.

November 13, Karen Gay Silkwood, a lab tech at the Cimeron plutonium plant and officer of the Oil, Chemical, and Atomic Workers Union local in Oklahoma City dies mysteriously en route to a union meeting with a newspaper reporter.

1973
May 30, Crystal Lee Jordan (aka "Norma Rae") is fired for trying to organize a union at the J.P. Stevens plant in Roanoke Rapids, North Carolina.
1972
In Harlan County, Kentucky Coal operators again try to break the United Mine Workers and a bloody coal-field war erupts.
1971
April 28, Occupational Safety and Health Act.
December 23, Jimmy Hoffa's prison sentence is commuted by President Richard Nixon on the condition he not participate in union activities for ten years.

1970
U.S. Postal Workers' strike affects mail service in major cities.
Under the leadership of Cesar Chavez, United Farm Workers start boycott of 25 major growers in California.

1969
Mary Moultrie organizes the successful strike of 550 black women hospital workers for union representation in Charleston, South Carolina.
1968
During an AFSCME Sanitation Workers' strike, the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. is assassinated at his motel in Memphis.
November 20th, a gas explosion at Consolidated Coal Company's No. 9 mine at Farmington, West Virginia trap 81 men, 78 of whom are killed in the mine.

The Age Discrimination in Employment Act makes it illegal to discriminate against people 40 to 65 years old.

1967
December 15, Age Discrimination in Employment Act.
1965
September 8, Delano Grape Strike began when the Agricultural Workers Organizing Committee, mostly Filipino farm workers in Delano, California, walked off the farms of area table grape growers demanding wages on level with the federal minimum wage. One week after the strike began, the predominantly Mexican-American National Farmworkers Association led by Cesar Chavez and Dolores Huerta joined the strike, and eventually the two groups merged, forming the United Farm Workers of America. Quickly, the strike spread to over 2,000 workers
October 22, Service Contracts Act.

1964
July 2, President Johnson signs Civil Rights Act of 1964; Title VII bans discrimination in the workplace.
Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa succeeds in bringing virtually all North American over-the-road truck drivers under a single national master freight agreement.

1963
June 10, Equal Pay Act.
1962
President Kennedy issues Executive Order 10988 giving federal workers the right to join unions and bargain for wages and working conditions.
1960
ILWU signs Mechanization and Modernization Agreement, which pioneers the tradeoff of members' job security for the employers' right to introduce labor-saving equipment.
1959
Longest steel strike in U.S. history, shut down 90% of US steel production for 116 days.
September 14, Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act (aka Landrum-Griffin) regulating union elections and finances.

1957
Jimmy Hoffa is elected president of the Teamsters.
AFL-CIO expels the Teamsters, Bakery Workers, and Laundry Workers for "unethical conduct."

1955
The American Federation of Labor merges with the Congress of Industrial Organizations, to form the AFL-CIO, the world's largest labor federation.
1953
AFL expels the International Longshoremen's Association for corruption
Louisiana Sugar Cane Workers' Strike

1952
55 day steel workers strike is ended by Federal Government intervention authorized by Pres. Truman.
1951
UAW president Walter Reuther elected president of CIO
1949
ILWU leaves CIO rather than be ejected for "Communist domination." Ten other CIO unions are kicked out.
Child labor is finally prohibited through an amendment to the Fair Labor Standards Act. Previous attempts had not been successful.

1947
June 23, The Taft-Hartley Act passed over President Truman's veto, drastically amending the Wagner Act of 1935 reducing rights of workers to organize labor unions. State "right-to-work" laws appear..
1946
A national railway strike stops all trains. President Harry S. Truman takes over railways and settles the dispute.
1943
Congress passes the Smith-Connally Act to restrict labor bargaining and organizing. It would have required 30 day "cooling off" before strike, criminal penalties for encouraging strikes, Presidential seizure of struck plants, prohibitions against union campaign contributions. It is vetoed by President Roosevelt.
1942
National War Labor Board established with labor representation on the board
1941
President Franklin Roosevelt announces a no-strike pledge by AFL and CIO for duration of World War II.
5-week animators' strike at Walt Disney Studios to end the paternalistic relation between Disney and his animation staff, cemented the studio's derogatory nickname of "the mouse factory."

1938
June 25, Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA); established Wage and Hour Division in DOL.
John L. Lewis, seeking to organize steelworkers, secures a labor contract with the president of the world's largest steel company, United States Steel, but the smaller companies that collectively were known as "Little Steel" brutally fought steelworkers. Scores of deaths and injuries occurred as the United Steelworkers of America struck at Little Steel plants across the industrial northeast.

1937
May 26, The Battle of the Overpass: United Auto Workers bloody confontation with Ford security forces. Published pictures of badly beaten UAW organizers Walter Reuther and Richard Frankensteen swayed public opinion in favor of the UAW.
The Memorial Day Massacre: Chicago police attack three hundred men picketing Republic Steel, killing ten and brutally maiming many others.

In Harlan County, Kentucky, Sheriff Deputies in the pay of the coal operators shoot unionists in a violent effort to break the United Mine Workers.

1936
December 28th, a "sitdown strike" of auto workers (UAW) supported by the Women's Emergency Brigade at the General Motors plant in Flint, Michigan.
June 30, the Walsh-Healey Act sets safety standards, minimum wage, overtime pay and child labor provisions on all federal contracts.

The Executive Council of the American Federation of Labor votes to expel all labor members who claim affiliation with the Congress of Industrial Organizations, or CIO, which was being led by the UMW president John L. Lewis.

1935
July 5, National Labor Relations Act (Wagner Act), establishing the National Labor Relations Board.
Six affiliated unions of the AFL form a Committee for Industrial Organizing to expand the scope of the AFL beyond its craft-union orientation.

August 14, the Social Security act is approved.

1934
San Francisco General Strike: the key event of modern west coast industrial unionism, led by longshoremen and sailors; Alameda County workers go out too, including streetcar drivers, calling for the municipalization of the privately-held streetcar company; general strikes in other cities. On July 5 (Bloody Thursday) two pickets are killed by the police.
The strike of 400,000 textile workers from New England, the Mid-Atlantic states and all over the southeastern United States and lasting twenty-two days. The strike's ultimate failure and the union's defeat left the southeastern portion of the United States an unorganized and anti-union region for the next 50 years.

July 16, Minneapolis Truckers Strike, 5000 men go out in a strike that established the Teamsters as a nationally significant labor union. Four men are killed--two on each side--and martial law is declared before an agreement is reached.

1933
Section 7(a) of the National Recovery Act (NRA) is passed by Congress to give most private sector workers the right to join a union and bargain collectively with their employers. Shortly thereafter the Supreme Court holds Title I of the Act unconstitutional.
Workers at George A. Hormel and Company stage the first sit-down strike in the U.S., taking over the Austin meat-packing plant for three days. The tactic works: Hormel agrees to submit wage demands to binding arbitration

1932
March 23, Norris-LaGuardia Act (Anti-Injunction Act) passes, prohibiting some federal injunctions in labor disputes and outlawing "yellow-dog" contracts - agreements where an employee agrees not to join a union.
Wisconsin enacts the nation's first unemployment insurance law.

1931
March 3, Davis-Bacon Act, providing for payment of prevailing wage rates to laborers and mechanics employed by contractors and subcontractors on public construction.
September 1, Clara Holden, National Textile Workers' Union organizer is abducted and beaten by vigilantes in Greenville, South Carolina.

1927
November 21, the Columbine Mine Massacre of striking coal miners in Colorado who were attacked with machine guns.
1926
May 20, Railway Labor Act; required employers to bargain collectively and not discriminate against their employees for joining a union and outlawing "yellow-dog" contracts.
1922
July 1 to September 1, nationwide railroad strike of 400,000 shop workers caused by the Railroad Labor Board's wage cut. The railroads hired strikebreakers, increasing hostilities between the railroads and striking workers. On September 1 federal judge James H. Wilkerson issued a sweeping injunction against striking, assembling, picketing, and a variety of other union activities, colloquially known as the "Daugherty Injunction."
1921
January 21, national conference of state Manufacturers' associations in Chicago develop the "American Plan" to combat union oganizing.
The U.S. Supreme Court held that nothing in the Clayton Anti-trust Act protected unions from injunctions brought against them for conspiracy in constraint of trade. (Duplex Printing Press v. Deering)
 
1920
Palmer Raids, part II: on January 2 Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer ordered another round of raids by the Federal Department of Justice to arrest and deport suspected 'anarchists' many of whom were labor union activists and leaders. This time about 6,000 were rounded up, arrested and whnever possible, deported.
Baldwin-Felts guards invade Matewan, West Virginia to break up a coal miners strike. The mayor, a small boy, a miner and four guards were killed in a show-down.

John L. Lewis is elected president of the United Mine Workers of America, at the age of 40, taking control of the largest labor union in the nation.

1919
The Seattle General Strike of February 6 to February 11, 1919 by over 65,000 workers in several unions, dissatisfied after two years of World War I wage controls.
August 26, United Mine Workers' organizer Fannie Sellins, a widowed mother of four, is shot to death by coal company guards while leading strikers in Brackenridge, Pennsylvania.

September 9, A strike by 1,100 police in Boston is the first ever by public safety workers. It was broken when Governor Calvin Coolidge summoned the entire Massachusetts Guard.

The Great Steel Strike against U.S. Steel Corp. led by the Amalgamated Association of Iron, Steel and Tin Workers. Starting in Chicago, it spread to 350,000 workers throughout Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia and lasted from September 1919 to January 1920. It was broken by massive use of scabs.

Palmer Raids: on November 7 Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer ordered raids by the Federal Department of Justice in 30 cities across the United States to arrest and deport suspicious immigrants (so called "alien reds") many of whom were involved in US labor unions. The raids were coordinated by a young J. Edgar Hoover, Palmer's chief investigating officer. In all, he rounded up about 10,000 and deported many as foreign agitators, anarchists, communists.

1918
Leadership of the Industrial Workers of the World sentenced to federal prison on charges of disloyalty to the United States.
1915
Joe Hill, IWW organizer and "labor's troubador" was executed by firing squad in Utah on November 19, 1915 for a robbery and murder it is most unlikely he had anything to do with.
1914
The Clayton Anti-trust Act, described by Sam Gompers as "Labor's Magna Carta", limits the use of injunctions in labor disputes and providing that picketing and other union activities are not illegal conspiracies or trusts.
Ludlow Massacre: on April 20th a small army of goons hired from the Baldwin-Felts agency backed up by the National Guard lay down a barrage of machine gun fire on a strikers' tent village at Ludlow, Colorado, killing men, women and children.

1913
The United States Department of Labor (separate from Commerce) is established by law.
1912
In Lawrence, Massachusetts the IWW leads a strike of 23,000 men, women and children to organize the Lawrence Textile Mills: The "Bread & Roses" Strike, hailed as the first successful multi-ethnic strike (see History Matters).
1911
The Triangle Waist Co. fire in New York on March 25, causes the death of 146 workers.
1910
The wives of striking miners arrested in Greensburg, Pennsylvania sing their way out of jail under the leadership of Mother Jones.
1909
"Uprising of the 20,000" female shirtwaist workers in New York State strike against sweatshop conditions.
1908
The U.S. Supreme Court struck down section 10 of the Erdman Act of 1898, which had outlawed "yellow-dog" contracts. (U.S. v. Adair)
Connecticut Supreme Court holds that a boycott by hatters' union is a restraint of trade. Union and strikers are sued.

1907
Nation's worst mining disaster at Monongah, West Virginia. 361 coal miners known dead.
1906
The IWW pioneers the Sit-Down Strike. Employees at General Electric fold their arms on the job for 65 hours.
The International Typographical Union successfully strikes for an 8-hour day.

1905
In Chicago, Eugene Debs and Big Bill Haywood combine efforts to found the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW or Wobblies as they were called) to bring all American workers into "One Big Union."
1903
The Department of Labor and Commerce is created by an act of Congress, and its Secretary is made a member of the President's Cabinet.
Mary Harris "Mother" Jones leads a protest march of mill children, many of whom were victims of industrial accidents, from Philadelphia to New York.

November 14, at the AFL convention in Boston, women unionists unite to form the National Women's Trade Union League and elect Mary Morton Kehew president and Jane Addams vice-president.

1902
May 12 - Oct 23, The Great Anthracite Coal Strike; 147,000 miners strike over union recognition. Pres. Roosevelt mediated.
Big Bill Haywood leads the Western Federation of Miners (WMF) through a terrible and bloody series of conflicts spanning two years in what became known as the Colorado Labor Wars.

1898
Congress passes the Erdman Act, a more detailed version of the 1888 Railroad workers legislation, adding sections to make it illegal to fire workers for their union membership.
1894
Eugene V. Debs leads the newly formed American Railway Union in a national strike against the Pullman Company. The strike and the union were finally broken by a court injunction and the intervention of federal troops.
1893
In the Cripple Creek Strike, Colorado gold miners, represented by the Western Federation of Miners are able to negotiate a peaceful end to a pitched battle between unionists and the state militia.
1892
The Great Homestead Lockout at the Carnegie Steel Works outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania against the Amalgamated Association of Iron, Steel & Tin Workers. Carnegie directs his manager, Frick, not to renew the union contract. Frick turns mills into "Fort Frick," hires Pinkertons to protect scabs and locks out union laborers. Strikers battle arriving Pinkertons (9 strikers and 7 Pinkertons killed).
Integrated general strike of 42 unions in New Orleans, broken when Governor Foster sends in the State Militia to use military force against the strikers.

Mary Kenney O'Sullivan of the Bindery Workers is appointed the AFL's first female national organizer.

1888
The first federal labor relations law was enacted, applying to Railroad workers. It provided arbitration and Presidential boards of investigation.
1886
March, Great Southwest Railroad Strike of 200,000 workers against the Union Pacific and Missouri Pacific railroads owned by Jay Gould, one of the more flamboyant of the 'robber baron' industrialists of the day. The failure of the strike led directly to the collapse of the Knights of Labor and the formation of the American Federation of Labor.
Haymarket Tragedy: May 1, in Chicago's Haymarket Square a bomb went off in the middle of a protest rally against the killing of 4 strikers who had been on strike for the 8-hour day.

December 28, The American Federation of Labor is formed at a convention in Columbus, Ohio, representing 140,000 workers grouped in 25 national unions. Sam Gompers is elected President.

1885
Knights of Labor Strike of South West System (J. Gould): The Missouri Pacific, the Missouri, Kansas and Texas; and the Wabash.
The Foran Act bans immigration of laborers brought in under contract to break strikes.

1883
Pendleton Act established the United States Civil Service Commission, which placed most federal employees on the merit system and marked the end of the spoils or patronage system.
1882
September, First Labor Day Celebration takes place in New York City.
1881
Atlanta, Georgia: 3,000 Black women laundry workers stage one of the largest and most effective strikes in the history of the south.
1877
July 14, National Uprising of Railroad Workers cripples the nation in response to the cutting of wages for the second time in a year by the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad. The governor of West Virginia sends in state militia, but they refused to use force against the strikers and the governor called for federal troops. President Hayes sent federal troops from city to city. These troops suppressed strike after strike, until at last, approximately 45 days after it had started, the strike was over.
On June 21, "Rope Day" ten leaders of the Molly Maguires were hanged.

1876
Trials of the "Molly Maguires", a secret society of Irish coal miners in Pennsylvania that had been infiltrated by a Pinkerton detective, surrendered state sovereignty. A private corporation initiated the investigation through a private detective agency. A private police force arrested the alleged defenders, and private attorneys for the coal companies prosecuted them. The state provided only the courtroom and the gallows.
1875
A five-month long labor war in Pennsylvania between mostly Irish Coal Miners and the Reading Coal and Iron Company.
1874
The union label is used for the first time by the Cigar Makers International Union.
1869
The Noble Order of the Knights of Labor, a secret society, is organized in Philadelphia.
July 28, women shoemakers form the Daughters of St. Crispin, the first national union of women workers, at Lynn, Massachusetts.

1868
The first 8-hour day for federal workers takes effect.
1867
The Knights of St. Crispin was organized on March 7 to protect journeymen shoemakers against the competition of "green hands."
1866
The National Labor Union formed, the first national association of unions to succeed for any length of time.
1865
13th Amendment to the US Constitution abolishes slavery.
1860
Great shoemakers strike in New England.
1852
The Typographical Union, the first national union to last through to the present day, was formed. (now merged with Communications Workers of America).
1845
The Female Labor Reform Association is formed in Lowell, Massachusetts by Sarah Bagley and other women cotton mill workers to reduce the work day from 12 or 13 hours a day to 10, and to improve sanitation and safety in the mills where they worked.
1842
The Massachusetts State Supreme Court ruled in Commonwealth v. Hunt that labor unions were not necessarily illegal conspiracies.
1840
President Martin Van Buren signs an executive order establishing a 10-hour workday without a decrease in pay.
1837
Andrew Jackson declares a 10-hour workday in Philadelphia Navy Yard.
1835
General strike in Philadelphia for 10 hour day.
1831
February, 1600 women members of the United Tailoresses of New York, strike for "a just price for our labor."
1828
First workingmen's parties formed to try to elect candidates favoring the 10-hour day, free public education, and ending the practice of imprisoning people in debt.
1827
In Philadelphia, several unions of skilled craftsmen combined to form the first trade association.
1825
The first union for women only formed: The United Tailoresses of New York.
1824
Women workers strike for the first time, in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. 102 women workers strike in support of brother weavers protesting the simultaneous reduction in wages and extension of the workday.
1814
The invention of the power loom makes weaving a factory occupation.
1806
Employers start taking labor groups to court for "criminal conspiracies in constraint of trade". The shoemakers, found guilty and fined, went bankrupt and disbanded.
Members of the Philadelphia Journeyman Cordwainers were tried for criminal conspiracy after a strike for higher wages.

1799
The Philadelphia shoemakers in a "sympathy strike" to support a local toolmakers' strike.
1794
The Philadelphia shoemakers reorganized as the Federal Society of Journeymen Cordwainers.
The Typographical Society was formed by printers in New York City.

1792
The first local craft union formed for collective bargaining was organized by shoemakers in Philadelphia.
1791
First Building Trades Strike: Philadelphia carpenters strike for a 10-hour day and overtime pay.
1790
First textile mill, built in Pawtucket, RI, is staffed entirely by children under the age of 12.
1786
Philadelphia printers strike.
1778
New York printers combine temporarily to ask for a wage increase, disband after winning it.
1776
Declaration of Independence signed in Carpenter's Hall.
1775
A strike in Boston harbor, more commonly known as the "Boston Tea Party." Local citizens dressed as Indians throw British tea overboard.
1770
Boston Massacre set off by a conflict between rope workers and British soldiers.
1768
New York tailors strike to protest a wage cut.
1765
The first society of working women, the Daughters of Liberty, is organized as an auxiliary of the Sons of Liberty, a workingman's association.
1741
New York bakers quit work to protest local government setting the price of bread-possibly the first work stoppage in America.
1648
Shoemakers and coopers (barrel-makers) guilds organize in Boston.
http://clear.uhwo.hawaii.edu/Timeline-US.html
 
wiseones2cents said:
Maybe English is your second or third language?lol

Perhaps thinking is your second or third language? lol


It was asked:"And what determines a good or services utility". And maineman replied "markets". I stated markets can be manipulated. That is my entire point. The rich have been cornering the market for decades. You will not compete with a company that is getting billions of dollars of gov kick backs. How are they doing that? Via capitalism. They are bribing politicians.
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What you stated is false. The rich cannot "corner" the market. They cannot legally get billions in Government "kickbacks". Why; because it is illegal. They cannot bribe politicians; why, because it is illegal.

But I am all eyes to see the solid evidence you have of how the "rich" corner markets and bribe officials assuming that they can get away with it and that this is how they succeed.

Tell me something, how did Steven Jobs "corner" the market to get filthy rich? How about Bill Gates? How did he "corner" the market?

How about how Tom Monaghan "cornered" the Pizza Delivery market?

What is in evidence is that you are talking out of your bunghole and clueless what point you are desperately trying to make.

Is it anti-Capitalist or anti-Government or conveniently just blaming everyone who is not you?

But here is a clue for you; Markets work fine when they are left to do what they are designed to do which is to provide the best products at the best prices using scarce resources that individuals and companies want and need.

But when politicians attempt to design the market through legislative efforts, they become distorted and result in really bad outcomes with unintended consequences.
 
wiseones2cents said:
What was the percentage rate for the rich in Reagan years? 35%? Now there are so many ways to cut that number in half. I believe Asshat supplied the chart of which you went silent upon reading.lol
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Is there a point here? Seriously, you are a clueless buffoon. How old are you?


wiseones2cents said:
Like most of your guesses? You guessed wrong.lol Only the naïve believe that the wealthy pay the most taxes.
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Only a dumbass thinks that the wealthy don't pay the bulk of taxes in this country.

But hey, I am enjoying watching you and asshat remove all doubt what dimwits you really are; why don't you post a credible link supporting your incredibly stupid and false assertion that the wealthy don't pay most of the taxes in this country. I will wait.
 
Truth Detector said:
Is there a point here? Seriously, you are a clueless buffoon. How old are you?




Only a dumbass thinks that the wealthy don't pay the bulk of taxes in this country.

But hey, I am enjoying watching you and asshat remove all doubt what dimwits you really are; why don't you post a credible link supporting your incredibly stupid and false assertion that the wealthy don't pay most of the taxes in this country. I will wait.
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You have been proven wrong over and over.
 
Truth Detector said:
What you stated is false. The rich cannot "corner" the market. They cannot legally get billions in Government "kickbacks". Why; because it is illegal. They cannot bribe politicians; why, because it is illegal.

But I am all eyes to see the solid evidence you have of how the "rich" corner markets and bribe officials assuming that they can get away with it and that this is how they succeed.

Tell me something, how did Steven Jobs "corner" the market to get filthy rich? How about Bill Gates? How did he "corner" the market?

How about how Tom Monaghan "cornered" the Pizza Delivery market?

What is in evidence is that you are talking out of your bunghole and clueless what point you are desperately trying to make.

Is it anti-Capitalist or anti-Government or conveniently just blaming everyone who is not you?

But here is a clue for you; Markets work fine when they are left to do what they are designed to do which is to provide the best products at the best prices using scarce resources that individuals and companies want and need.

But when politicians attempt to design the market through legislative efforts, they become distorted and result in really bad outcomes with unintended consequences.
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They get government contracts, legally. And the supreme court Citizens United decision basically legalized bribery, in effect.
 
Truth Detector said:
What you stated is false. The rich cannot "corner" the market. They cannot legally get billions in Government "kickbacks". Why; because it is illegal. They cannot bribe politicians; why, because it is illegal.
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Where the heck have you been hiding? You cant be that stupid are you?lol What do you think is happening with all these big box companies and mergers and hostile takeovers?lol Corporations aren't subsidized? Corporations do get corporate welfare? Corporations don't take full advantage of tax loopholes of which they use to pocket large sums of money? They cannot bribe politicians? What do you think Lobbyists do? This post is the most laughable post!!!!!

That's like saying Christians don't steal, or cheat, because they are Christians. ROTFLOL!!!!

But I am all eyes to see the solid evidence you have of how the "rich" corner markets and bribe officials assuming that they can get away with it and that this is how they succeed.
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The solid evidence is the Video in the OP. The top 5% own over 1/2 the entire wealth of America. The top 20% own over 80% of America's entire wealth. How do you think these people got so rich? You don't believe that back room deals are not struck? How naïve!!!

Tell me something, how did Steven Jobs "corner" the market to get filthy rich? How about Bill Gates? How did he "corner" the market?
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Bill gates stole it and now has a monopoly on computer operating software. Microsoft. Sure the US government forced them to split in 3 different companies, but we seen how that ends when they split up Standard oil. Exxon and Mobile reunited and started cornering the bulk of the market again. That is the end result of capitalism.



Steven Jobs stole his idea from Xerox.

But he doesn't have the market cornered because Samsung does. Apple survives because Samsung allows it. Probably because there are powerful investors invested in both companies. Therefore having a monopoly indirectly.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Electronics

Despite recent litigation activity, Samsung and Apple have been described as frenemies who share a love-hate relationship.[97] Samsung is a major supplier for Apple - first providing memory for the early iPod devices in 2005,[20] and Apple is a key customer for Samsung - in 2012 its component sales were thought to be worth in the region of $8 billion revenue to Samsung[97] - to the point where Apple CEO Tim Cook originally opposed litigation against Samsung wary of the company's critical component supply chain for Apple.


But here is a clue for you; Markets work fine when they are left to do what they are designed to do which is to provide the best products at the best prices using scarce resources that individuals and companies want and need.

But when politicians attempt to design the market through legislative efforts, they become distorted and result in really bad outcomes with unintended consequences.
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Markets left unmanipulated is a pipe dream and cannot exist in a capitalist system where profits is the end game. Markets would be more stable in a socialist system. Capitalist markets cause much financial ruin and bankruptcies, which equates to poor job security.

Why do you think government is interfering? They are interfering on the behalf of their capitalist puppet masters. For the benefit of the rich and powerful.
 
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AssHatZombie said:
1920
Palmer Raids, part II: on January 2 Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer ordered another round of raids by the Federal Department of Justice to arrest and deport suspected 'anarchists' many of whom were labor union activists and leaders. This time about 6,000 were rounded up, arrested and whnever possible, deported.
Baldwin-Felts guards invade Matewan, West Virginia to break up a coal miners strike. The mayor, a small boy, a miner and four guards were killed in a show-down.

John L. Lewis is elected president of the United Mine Workers of America, at the age of 40, taking control of the largest labor union in the nation.

1919
The Seattle General Strike of February 6 to February 11, 1919 by over 65,000 workers in several unions, dissatisfied after two years of World War I wage controls.
August 26, United Mine Workers' organizer Fannie Sellins, a widowed mother of four, is shot to death by coal company guards while leading strikers in Brackenridge, Pennsylvania.

September 9, A strike by 1,100 police in Boston is the first ever by public safety workers. It was broken when Governor Calvin Coolidge summoned the entire Massachusetts Guard.

The Great Steel Strike against U.S. Steel Corp. led by the Amalgamated Association of Iron, Steel and Tin Workers. Starting in Chicago, it spread to 350,000 workers throughout Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia and lasted from September 1919 to January 1920. It was broken by massive use of scabs.

Palmer Raids: on November 7 Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer ordered raids by the Federal Department of Justice in 30 cities across the United States to arrest and deport suspicious immigrants (so called "alien reds") many of whom were involved in US labor unions. The raids were coordinated by a young J. Edgar Hoover, Palmer's chief investigating officer. In all, he rounded up about 10,000 and deported many as foreign agitators, anarchists, communists.

1918
Leadership of the Industrial Workers of the World sentenced to federal prison on charges of disloyalty to the United States.
1915
Joe Hill, IWW organizer and "labor's troubador" was executed by firing squad in Utah on November 19, 1915 for a robbery and murder it is most unlikely he had anything to do with.
1914
The Clayton Anti-trust Act, described by Sam Gompers as "Labor's Magna Carta", limits the use of injunctions in labor disputes and providing that picketing and other union activities are not illegal conspiracies or trusts.
Ludlow Massacre: on April 20th a small army of goons hired from the Baldwin-Felts agency backed up by the National Guard lay down a barrage of machine gun fire on a strikers' tent village at Ludlow, Colorado, killing men, women and children.

1913
The United States Department of Labor (separate from Commerce) is established by law.
1912
In Lawrence, Massachusetts the IWW leads a strike of 23,000 men, women and children to organize the Lawrence Textile Mills: The "Bread & Roses" Strike, hailed as the first successful multi-ethnic strike (see History Matters).
1911
The Triangle Waist Co. fire in New York on March 25, causes the death of 146 workers.
1910
The wives of striking miners arrested in Greensburg, Pennsylvania sing their way out of jail under the leadership of Mother Jones.
1909
"Uprising of the 20,000" female shirtwaist workers in New York State strike against sweatshop conditions.
1908
The U.S. Supreme Court struck down section 10 of the Erdman Act of 1898, which had outlawed "yellow-dog" contracts. (U.S. v. Adair)
Connecticut Supreme Court holds that a boycott by hatters' union is a restraint of trade. Union and strikers are sued.

1907
Nation's worst mining disaster at Monongah, West Virginia. 361 coal miners known dead.
1906
The IWW pioneers the Sit-Down Strike. Employees at General Electric fold their arms on the job for 65 hours.
The International Typographical Union successfully strikes for an 8-hour day.

1905
In Chicago, Eugene Debs and Big Bill Haywood combine efforts to found the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW or Wobblies as they were called) to bring all American workers into "One Big Union."
1903
The Department of Labor and Commerce is created by an act of Congress, and its Secretary is made a member of the President's Cabinet.
Mary Harris "Mother" Jones leads a protest march of mill children, many of whom were victims of industrial accidents, from Philadelphia to New York.

November 14, at the AFL convention in Boston, women unionists unite to form the National Women's Trade Union League and elect Mary Morton Kehew president and Jane Addams vice-president.

1902
May 12 - Oct 23, The Great Anthracite Coal Strike; 147,000 miners strike over union recognition. Pres. Roosevelt mediated.
Big Bill Haywood leads the Western Federation of Miners (WMF) through a terrible and bloody series of conflicts spanning two years in what became known as the Colorado Labor Wars.

1898
Congress passes the Erdman Act, a more detailed version of the 1888 Railroad workers legislation, adding sections to make it illegal to fire workers for their union membership.
1894
Eugene V. Debs leads the newly formed American Railway Union in a national strike against the Pullman Company. The strike and the union were finally broken by a court injunction and the intervention of federal troops.
1893
In the Cripple Creek Strike, Colorado gold miners, represented by the Western Federation of Miners are able to negotiate a peaceful end to a pitched battle between unionists and the state militia.
1892
The Great Homestead Lockout at the Carnegie Steel Works outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania against the Amalgamated Association of Iron, Steel & Tin Workers. Carnegie directs his manager, Frick, not to renew the union contract. Frick turns mills into "Fort Frick," hires Pinkertons to protect scabs and locks out union laborers. Strikers battle arriving Pinkertons (9 strikers and 7 Pinkertons killed).
Integrated general strike of 42 unions in New Orleans, broken when Governor Foster sends in the State Militia to use military force against the strikers.

Mary Kenney O'Sullivan of the Bindery Workers is appointed the AFL's first female national organizer.

1888
The first federal labor relations law was enacted, applying to Railroad workers. It provided arbitration and Presidential boards of investigation.
1886
March, Great Southwest Railroad Strike of 200,000 workers against the Union Pacific and Missouri Pacific railroads owned by Jay Gould, one of the more flamboyant of the 'robber baron' industrialists of the day. The failure of the strike led directly to the collapse of the Knights of Labor and the formation of the American Federation of Labor.
Haymarket Tragedy: May 1, in Chicago's Haymarket Square a bomb went off in the middle of a protest rally against the killing of 4 strikers who had been on strike for the 8-hour day.

December 28, The American Federation of Labor is formed at a convention in Columbus, Ohio, representing 140,000 workers grouped in 25 national unions. Sam Gompers is elected President.

1885
Knights of Labor Strike of South West System (J. Gould): The Missouri Pacific, the Missouri, Kansas and Texas; and the Wabash.
The Foran Act bans immigration of laborers brought in under contract to break strikes.

1883
Pendleton Act established the United States Civil Service Commission, which placed most federal employees on the merit system and marked the end of the spoils or patronage system.
1882
September, First Labor Day Celebration takes place in New York City.
1881
Atlanta, Georgia: 3,000 Black women laundry workers stage one of the largest and most effective strikes in the history of the south.
1877
July 14, National Uprising of Railroad Workers cripples the nation in response to the cutting of wages for the second time in a year by the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad. The governor of West Virginia sends in state militia, but they refused to use force against the strikers and the governor called for federal troops. President Hayes sent federal troops from city to city. These troops suppressed strike after strike, until at last, approximately 45 days after it had started, the strike was over.
On June 21, "Rope Day" ten leaders of the Molly Maguires were hanged.

1876
Trials of the "Molly Maguires", a secret society of Irish coal miners in Pennsylvania that had been infiltrated by a Pinkerton detective, surrendered state sovereignty. A private corporation initiated the investigation through a private detective agency. A private police force arrested the alleged defenders, and private attorneys for the coal companies prosecuted them. The state provided only the courtroom and the gallows.
1875
A five-month long labor war in Pennsylvania between mostly Irish Coal Miners and the Reading Coal and Iron Company.
1874
The union label is used for the first time by the Cigar Makers International Union.
1869
The Noble Order of the Knights of Labor, a secret society, is organized in Philadelphia.
July 28, women shoemakers form the Daughters of St. Crispin, the first national union of women workers, at Lynn, Massachusetts.

1868
The first 8-hour day for federal workers takes effect.
1867
The Knights of St. Crispin was organized on March 7 to protect journeymen shoemakers against the competition of "green hands."
1866
The National Labor Union formed, the first national association of unions to succeed for any length of time.
1865
13th Amendment to the US Constitution abolishes slavery.
1860
Great shoemakers strike in New England.
1852
The Typographical Union, the first national union to last through to the present day, was formed. (now merged with Communications Workers of America).
1845
The Female Labor Reform Association is formed in Lowell, Massachusetts by Sarah Bagley and other women cotton mill workers to reduce the work day from 12 or 13 hours a day to 10, and to improve sanitation and safety in the mills where they worked.
1842
The Massachusetts State Supreme Court ruled in Commonwealth v. Hunt that labor unions were not necessarily illegal conspiracies.
1840
President Martin Van Buren signs an executive order establishing a 10-hour workday without a decrease in pay.
1837
Andrew Jackson declares a 10-hour workday in Philadelphia Navy Yard.
1835
General strike in Philadelphia for 10 hour day.
1831
February, 1600 women members of the United Tailoresses of New York, strike for "a just price for our labor."
1828
First workingmen's parties formed to try to elect candidates favoring the 10-hour day, free public education, and ending the practice of imprisoning people in debt.
1827
In Philadelphia, several unions of skilled craftsmen combined to form the first trade association.
1825
The first union for women only formed: The United Tailoresses of New York.
1824
Women workers strike for the first time, in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. 102 women workers strike in support of brother weavers protesting the simultaneous reduction in wages and extension of the workday.
1814
The invention of the power loom makes weaving a factory occupation.
1806
Employers start taking labor groups to court for "criminal conspiracies in constraint of trade". The shoemakers, found guilty and fined, went bankrupt and disbanded.
Members of the Philadelphia Journeyman Cordwainers were tried for criminal conspiracy after a strike for higher wages.

1799
The Philadelphia shoemakers in a "sympathy strike" to support a local toolmakers' strike.
1794
The Philadelphia shoemakers reorganized as the Federal Society of Journeymen Cordwainers.
The Typographical Society was formed by printers in New York City.

1792
The first local craft union formed for collective bargaining was organized by shoemakers in Philadelphia.
1791
First Building Trades Strike: Philadelphia carpenters strike for a 10-hour day and overtime pay.
1790
First textile mill, built in Pawtucket, RI, is staffed entirely by children under the age of 12.
1786
Philadelphia printers strike.
1778
New York printers combine temporarily to ask for a wage increase, disband after winning it.
1776
Declaration of Independence signed in Carpenter's Hall.
1775
A strike in Boston harbor, more commonly known as the "Boston Tea Party." Local citizens dressed as Indians throw British tea overboard.
1770
Boston Massacre set off by a conflict between rope workers and British soldiers.
1768
New York tailors strike to protest a wage cut.
1765
The first society of working women, the Daughters of Liberty, is organized as an auxiliary of the Sons of Liberty, a workingman's association.
1741
New York bakers quit work to protest local government setting the price of bread-possibly the first work stoppage in America.
1648
Shoemakers and coopers (barrel-makers) guilds organize in Boston.
http://clear.uhwo.hawaii.edu/Timeline-US.html
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So you believe that if you bombard the thread with nonsense, it will make your false case that Unions made the Middle Class in America?

You really are THAT stupid.

Here are some facts for you:

Percentage of workforce

▪ Total: 12.4%
▪ Public sector: 36.8%
▪ Private sector: 7.6%

FACT: Union thuggery helped to destroy the garment industry in the South, the automobile industry in the Northeast and the only area that they can claim any significant gains is in Government which has NOTHING to do with markets or the Middle Class, but merely representative of the fact that corrupt politicians support Unions in order to stay in political power against what is good for their constituents who are left paying the bills of Union wage
 
Truth Detector said:
So you believe that if you bombard the thread with nonsense, it will make your false case that Unions made the Middle Class in America?

You really are THAT stupid.

Here are some facts for you:

Percentage of workforce

▪ Total: 12.4%
▪ Public sector: 36.8%
▪ Private sector: 7.6%

FACT: Union thuggery helped to destroy the garment industry in the South, the automobile industry in the Northeast and the only area that they can claim any significant gains is in Government which has NOTHING to do with markets or the Middle Class, but merely representative of the fact that corrupt politicians support Unions in order to stay in political power against what is good for their constituents who are left paying the bills of Union wage
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percentage of workforce what?
 
NOVA said:
Capitalism hasn't been 'circular, (within one country) for centurys .... its world wide...but at least you acknowledge that it is the wealthy
that provide the people with with jobs...whether its Japanese auto makers providing jobs for US workers or US corps. providing jobs for the Chinese....
nations all over the world do the same thing....
Repeating the left wing crap line "the insatiable need by the wealthy to attain more wealth" just shows where you're coming from....
Hopefully, there will always be some group of people that enjoy great success in whatever business endeavors they explore, thats good for the country
and good for all of us.
It isn't 'the wealthy' that end up with the money...its the people that end up with the money become the wealthy.
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Try to keep up. I know it isn't easy for you. The thread addresses this country, and this economy. Further, the post I responded to opened with this comment;

You have no idea of what makes capitalism work, which incidentally, has been working splendidly for over 200 years here.
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Now, run along, and let the adults have intelligent discussion.
 
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Only by Government intrusions or illegal activity.
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You seem to think that government intrusions are created by the government. When we provably have things like the FDA board members moving into position directly from high-level positions at Monsanto and Archer-Daniels-Midland (link) and complaints about poverty-level entrepreneurs being phoned in by their wealthier competition (link), you start to realize that a significant amount of government oversight -- particularly those regulations that make it hard to break into an industry -- are created by free market actors, not by the government itself.

Corporations create government regulations. They do it either by acting so egregiously that even the uninformed common Americans figure it out and ask for it (Wall Street) or by getting under the government's sheets and tossing Fed salad until they get the regulations they think will keep their own dominant position in place.

Liberals want government oversight -- but the market actually creates it. (And, it should be noted, creates the kind that fucks things up rather than keeping shit straight.)
 
Essence said:
You seem to think that government intrusions are created by the government. When we provably have things like the FDA board members moving into position directly from high-level positions at Monsanto and Archer-Daniels-Midland (link) and complaints about poverty-level entrepreneurs being phoned in by their wealthier competition (link), you start to realize that a significant amount of government oversight -- particularly those regulations that make it hard to break into an industry -- are created by free market actors, not by the government itself.

Corporations create government regulations. They do it either by acting so egregiously that even the uninformed common Americans figure it out and ask for it (Wall Street) or by getting under the government's sheets and tossing Fed salad until they get the regulations they think will keep their own dominant position in place.

Liberals want government oversight -- but the market actually creates it. (And, it should be noted, creates the kind that fucks things up rather than keeping shit straight.)
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Exactly. People that defend private enterprise and blame government have fallen for the oldest hoodwink.

Private enterprise(big business) is behind corrupt government. Who do you think finances candidates? Who owns and bribes candidates? Once elected, big business uses lobbyists to bribe congress to pass laws(or send pork their way) that benefit big business. All the president is, is a rubber stamper with no real power. His masters tell him what laws to pass or veto.......George W Bush was the biggest rubber stamper of them all, not vetoing one single law in his first term......But we all know he couldn't run a lemonade stand.
 
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