Are the Bible Thumpers Losing Their Grip on Our Politics?

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PostmodernProphet said:
perhaps he's a tax payer......do you get EIC?.....are you a taxpayer?......
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I am a taxpayer....no, I get nothing more than our married tax credit.

The point wasn't that he isn't a taxpayer....the.point is that he is against taxation.....so I said great....keep your tax money....but then you can't use.public services.....simple.
 
Steelplate said:
I am a taxpayer....no, I get nothing more than our married tax credit.

The point wasn't that he isn't a taxpayer....the.point is that he is against taxation.....so I said great....keep your tax money....but then you can't use.public services.....simple.
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Hey shit for brains, I am against HIGH CONFISCATORY TAXATION, asshole.
 
Boris The Animal said:
No you're not. You're all about silencing Conservatives and especially Evangelicals because you know we are right 100% of the time!
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Bullshit....I silence no one. What you want is YOUR WAY....no matter what the people of this country want.

As far as evangelicals go, I am a Christian....been.one.my whole life. But I am also an American....which means I believe.in a free country where everyone has equal access to civil rights.....that means all those.people you hate....gays....aborters....Mooozlims....etc....have every right to civil rights as anyone else.

You see....I have the ability to separate my beliefs and my civics.
 
Steelplate said:
Bullshit....I silence no one. What you want is YOUR WAY....no matter what the people of this country want.

As far as evangelicals go, I am a Christian....been.one.my whole life. But I am also an American....which means I believe.in a free country where everyone has equal access to civil rights.....that means all those.people you hate....gays....aborters....Mooozlims....etc....have every right to civil rights as anyone else.

You see....I have the ability to separate my beliefs and my civics.
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That's just it. Our faith needs to permeate every aspect of our lives, including civics.
 
Steelplate said:
I am a taxpayer....no, I get nothing more than our married tax credit.

The point wasn't that he isn't a taxpayer....the.point is that he is against taxation.....so I said great....keep your tax money....but then you can't use.public services.....simple.
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if we cut taxes in half, can we use half the public services.....and of course, those who are against poor people paying taxes must not want poor people using public services either, right?.....
 
Steelplate said:
That's called a Theocracy, boy.....take a look at how it's working out over in the Middle East. And don't tell me it can't happen with Christianity.
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The country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and we have had a proud Christian heritage in this country for a long time before communists began to infiltrate this country.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
if we cut taxes in half, can we use half the public services.....and of course, those who are against poor people paying taxes must not want poor people using public services either, right?.....
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Why do you hate the poor? Why is it that you CLAIM to be so religious....but all your talking points damn the poor and favor the wealthy? You ever read the "goats and sheep judgment in the Bible?" It's also known as "The Judgment of Nations".

Poor people who can.barely keep a roof over their heads need all the help they can get.

How about we only pay taxes on what we support?

I support a strong infrastructure that is up to date and efficient. I support Universal Health Care and Public Education(although I am OK with Charter Schools using an individual family's tax dollars to pay tuition). I support a fair day's pay for a fair day's work....which means a sustainable wage for anyone who works. I support a welfare system....but not in it's current form....I think we ought to bring back modern day versions of the CCC and the WPA. That way folks can work for their benefits and gain job experience and training....a true hand up. I support Social Security for our elderly. I support investment in clean, renewable energy.

What I don't support is Corporate Welfare...such as in our oil, natural gas and auto industry....I don't mind temporary loans....but handouts are out of the question. I don't support a military that is 10x more powerful than our next competitor(China).
 
Steelplate said:
Why do you hate the poor? Why is it that you CLAIM to be so religious....but all your talking points damn the poor and favor the wealthy? You ever read the "goats and sheep judgment in the Bible?" It's also known as "The Judgment of Nations".

Poor people who can.barely keep a roof over their heads need all the help they can get.

How about we only pay taxes on what we support?

I support a strong infrastructure that is up to date and efficient. I support Universal Health Care and Public Education(although I am OK with Charter Schools using an individual family's tax dollars to pay tuition). I support a fair day's pay for a fair day's work....which means a sustainable wage for anyone who works. I support a welfare system....but not in it's current form....I think we ought to bring back modern day versions of the CCC and the WPA. That way folks can work for their benefits and gain job experience and training....a true hand up. I support Social Security for our elderly. I support investment in clean, renewable energy.

What I don't support is Corporate Welfare...such as in our oil, natural gas and auto industry....I don't mind temporary loans....but handouts are out of the question. I don't support a military that is 10x more powerful than our next competitor(China).
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In short, you support communism.
 
Boris The Animal said:
In short, you support communism.
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Not at all.

Socialism? Somewhat.....

Tell me something slick....how does an underemployed, overworked and underpaid workforce help this country? How does the financial windfall of those 1%ers that they have been enjoying increasingly since Reagan help this country when they don't invest here and demand that employees get paid shit wages and lousy to no benefits?

How is that good for the country? It's not....but you don't CARE about the country.....you only care about what Rush tells you.
 
Steelplate said:
Not at all.

Socialism? Somewhat.....

Tell me something slick....how does an underemployed, overworked and underpaid workforce help this country? How does the financial windfall of those 1%ers that they have been enjoying increasingly since Reagan help this country when they don't invest here and demand that employees get paid shit wages and lousy to no benefits?

How is that good for the country? It's not....but you don't CARE about the country.....you only care about what Rush tells you.
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It's really up to the individual private sector company, not some government lackie, to determine wages and benefits for their employees. And second, I will not begrudge anyone, even the so-called 1% from keeping their monies.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
if we cut taxes in half, can we use half the public services.....and of course, those who are against poor people paying taxes must not want poor people using public services either, right?.....
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Actually, we don't want poor people starving to death, or dying of diseases that are easily curable. We don't want them needing to sleep on the streets, piss in the alleyways, shit on our doorsteps (to be much cruder than I normally am). We want them having the basics, because we have a heart.

No room in your religion for taking care of the poor?
 
Boris The Animal said:
It's really up to the individual private sector company, not some government lackie, to determine wages and benefits for their employees. And second, I will not begrudge anyone, even the so-called 1% from keeping their monies.
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Wow....you really don't get the insanity of your post, do you? You're truly a Limbaugh disciple, aren't you?

What if all of those private sector companies know the power they weild(and they do)...and choose to keep the workforce desperate and hungry?

Why do you think tyranny can ONLY come from government?

What you are proposing is self governance by people you CAN'T vote out and have no vested interest other than their own greed.

In short....you want a fuedal aristocracy championed by the business and banking sector.

Have fun with that....I'll fight you tooth and nail on that bullshit though and so will most Americans.
 
tekkychick said:
Actually, we don't want poor people starving to death, or dying of diseases that are easily curable. We don't want them needing to sleep on the streets, piss in the alleyways, shit on our doorsteps (to be much cruder than I normally am). We want them having the basics, because we have a heart.

No room in your religion for taking care of the poor?
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Nope....and.let.me.guess.....it can all be attributed to two passages.in the.Bible....

Passage #1: "if you don't work, you don't eat"

Passage #2: the parable of the talents.


I also suggest that Boris read the goats and the sheep.
 
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