Sen. Feinstein calls Snowden's NSA leaks an 'act of treason'

Howey said:
He wasn't a whistleblower because the government did nothing wrong.
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From "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself!" to "Boy! I think that it is great that the government keeps records on every citizen because I am afraid of terrorists!" And all it took was the election of somebody wearing the same color jersey...

People. Pay attention. This is not okay, the government may have passed laws that say it is legal, but that will never make this okay. If you still believe we live in "the land of freedom" then you are delusional.
 
Damocles said:
From "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself!" to "Boy! I think that it is great that the government keeps records on every citizen because I am afraid of terrorists!" And all it took was the election of somebody wearing the same color jersey...

People. Pay attention. This is not okay, the government may have passed laws that say it is legal, but that will never make this okay. If you still believe we live in "the land of freedom" then you are delusional.
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Where is your precious constitution when you need it?http://uk.search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A...71001718/**http://www.staged.com/video?v=Klmb
 
Damocles said:
From "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself!" to "Boy! I think that it is great that the government keeps records on every citizen because I am afraid of terrorists!" And all it took was the election of somebody wearing the same color jersey...
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howey supports this because it's being used against the TEA party Libertarians with guns. that's the only reason he thinks it's awesome. He's probably hoping i'm being investigated
 
tekkychick said:
Good comment. I think most of us are torn. But more openness is good, so at least we know what's going on and we can try to influence it.
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EVERY whistle blower betrays a trust to someone ... thats what a whistle blower does....they are ALL traitors to someone....
Lefties believe the end justifies the means, infringing on our rights for some 'greater good'.....at least a greater good in their eyes, ignoring those that oppose their views.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
It says $200,000 here and in a few others I read, that's not to say they are right though. Actually that is not so much for an IT contractor with highly sought after skills.

www.speigel.de/international/world/...on-massive-us-intelligence-leak-a-904776.html
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Agree, I've heard the 200K number as well; just happened to read the 122K number this morning, so thought I'd mention it.

Wonder if he was a contractor - and therefore responsible for his own taxes, health care, etc - or an employee of Booz Allen who was contracted through them to the NSA? makes a difference on salary.

Ok, TC, you're really getting off on a big tangent here... best to stop and not worry about it...
 
Darla said:
"Alot of women in this thread and im kind of intimidated I hope they dont collectively rip me to shreds. Im below average intelligence and quite afraid of violent females"

Sounds like all of the conservative men who post here. Are you a conservative man? You will have plenty of company.

I suspect this is Superfreak with a new name. Trying to hide from DH. Certainly sounds like him!
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I am a registered independent and truly right down the middle, I piss both sides off , I have views on both sides of the political spectrum.
To give you an idea, Im pro Union and im all for workers. That usually enrages conservatives. Im not for gay marriage that usually enrages the progressives.
 
Darla said:
"Alot of women in this thread and im kind of intimidated I hope they dont collectively rip me to shreds. Im below average intelligence and quite afraid of violent females"

Sounds like all of the conservative men who post here. Are you a conservative man? You will have plenty of company.

I suspect this is Superfreak with a new name. Trying to hide from DH. Certainly sounds like him!
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Im not superfreak im an old guy I wouldnt label myself any kind of freak lol
 
Rana said:
Political correctness is synonomous with social consciousness, I understand why you have problems with it.
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B.S it's sugar coating stuff as to not to offend, If your liberal I want to offend you, because you are the problem with the country, again take political correctness, and tolerance, and diversity, and shove it, they are buzz words used to shut down speech
 
PostmodernProphet said:
obviously......after all, Google and Verizon sell this same information every day of the week to someone........
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do you even know what this shit is about? thousands of techs not only had the ability, but the authority to tap any phone line. judges, politicians, anybody. This isn't about collecting adclick data. Last I checked google doesn't listen in on my phone calls.
 
Yoda said:
I am a registered independent and truly right down the middle, I piss both sides off , I have views on both sides of the political spectrum.
To give you an idea, Im pro Union and im all for workers. That usually enrages conservatives. Im not for gay marriage that usually enrages the progressives.
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so you are the worst kind of taker then. you take money and also civil liberties.
 
"Fire and Blood" said:
do you even know what this shit is about? thousands of techs not only had the ability, but the authority to tap any phone line. judges, politicians, anybody. This isn't about collecting adclick data. Last I checked google doesn't listen in on my phone calls.
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It's actually unclear just what authority the NSA had and the circumstances under which they could access information on individuals under the PRISM program. I'm not saying that you are wrong, just that we don't really know exactly what was going on. The Guardian and Washington Post reported one thing, the companies at issue denied it, the NSA denied it, and the NY Times reported something different from the Guardian and the Post that dovetail with what the companies and NSA have said. I don't know who is correct. Here's a good rundown:

https://medium.com/prism-truth/82a1791c94d3
 
Rana said:
It is unfortunate, I have often wondered myself, what is it? Is it the classified stuff that they get to read? Is it dealing with the very Patriarichal governments in the world?

Clinton at one time, or I thought, was very anti-war, not sure what has changed unless it was her seeking national office.
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A good question. My guess is that the classified stuff would scare the shit out of the public and it may tweak the way they look at things. As for Hillary, I think she was always more hawkish than Bill. Just my opinion.
 
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