9 Out Of 10 Americans Are Completely Wrong About This Mind-Blowing Fact

Dixie said:
Can you cite some actual corporations as examples of what the fuck you're talking about? Because every corporation I know of in America, who has a CEO, also has a Board of Directors and shareholders. The BOD are selected by the shareholders, who are the people who have money invested in the company. Since it's highly illogical they'd want to screw themselves, I don't understand your complaint. Whether the shareholders are represented by an 'institutional investor' or not, the actions of the BOD are always in the best interest of the company, and I don't know of any example where this is not the case.
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Of course you don't understand, therein lies the problem. If you weren't so hidebound and reactionary you might be open to understanding.

http://wbiaus.org/3.%20Mourad.pdf

[url]http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/corpgov/2011/10/07/institutional-investors-the-next-frontier-in-corporate-governance/
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Rune said:
It says right in the bible a workman must be paid freak.
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Not that we are supposed to be arguing policy on the merit of the Bible, but who the hell has advocated for not paying people? The only people here who are doing that, are those who want us not to pay CEOs what their BODs feel they should be paid.
 
Thing1 said:
You haven't said anything except for the usual puerile, generalizing BS of "you're jealous" and "you're a Marxist!" I'm neither.
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You're BOTH, and I not only said "you're jealous," I told you how and why you were jealous, as well as why you are denying it. I even gave you a dictionary definition of the word and explained it to you. Now you want to claim this never happened, but the post is here for anyone who cares to read it. The same thing with "Marxist," I explained how you are espousing the tenants of Marxist Socialism, and all you've done is deny it.

I don't really believe that you've read Marx, but even if you did, you didn't understand it, just like you didn't understand "Origin of a Species" (remember that? Where does an arm COME from? Where does it come from? Priceless.)
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No, I've read Marx and done dissertations on Marxism, I know what the fuck I'm talking about, which is why you want to run away in denial and start hurling ad homs and insults at me. What I understand about Marxism is, it doesn't work. The ideology breaks down once Capitalism is dead, and the end result is people wind up being executed by the new 1%, the Ruling Class, who truly DO control all the power, freedom and wealth.

If you want to start a new thread to argue Origin of the Species, be my guest, it has no place in this thread.

What CEO's get paid IS my business, because I agree with the founders about the formation of a new aristocracy - something that they had just escaped from. I'd recommend that you read their writings on the topic, but you wouldn't understand those either.

Now, call me a jealous Marxist again - you're so good at that.
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You don't agree with the founders about any fucking thing, and people need to know this. It's not possible for our government system to be an aristocracy or a theocracy, or anything other than a representative republic as it is established. Flailing your hands around in the air, screaming "Aristocracy!" isn't going to change that fact. These are "excuses" you are clinging to, in order to support your arguments, because these are things you've been taught to say by Marxists. What a private company decides to pay it's CEO, is none of your fucking business... LITERALLY! And it's none of the government's business either.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Of course you don't understand, therein lies the problem. If you weren't so hidebound and reactionary you might be open to understanding.

http://wbiaus.org/3.%20Mourad.pdf

[url]http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/corpgov/2011/10/07/institutional-investors-the-next-frontier-in-corporate-governance/
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I asked you one simple thing, to post the specific name of a company as an example of your outrageous claim, and you come back with two links. The first is a ".org" link, which signifies it is some kind of organization, and since it apparently supports Marxism as you do, it's probably a Marxist propaganda outlet, and not worthy of my clicking. The other is from Harvard Law... same fucking difference! I don't have time for your games, either answer my goddamn question or STFU.

What company in America is being run by "institutional investors" up to and including the hiring of the CEO? The only example I can think of off the top of my head, is General Motors, and the "institutional investor" is the US Government.
 
Dixie said:
You people don't give a good shit about the poor or needy, you don't care about jobs or the economy, you are brainwashed fucktard Marxist Socialists, who want to take down Capitalism, so that you can usher in this glorious Utopia you think we can have. People need to stop listening to your propaganda, stop clicking on your links and watching your videos, and just start calling you Communists to your face every time you open your pie hole.
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PREACH IT DIXIE!
 
Dr. Krieger said:
You are now comparing one man to an entire body of people. Which is pretty stupid, because I bet the entire body of people you just brought up ARE paid more, collectively, than the CEO. So yes, the entire body of masses that make up a company are more valuable than an individual CEO, and thus they collectively, as said body, are paid more than the CEO.
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I'm sorry, I meant an employee.
 
Man....so many many posts and no one, not one can refute in an intelligent manner what the big D is saying.....thats awesome.
 
Sycamore said:
Which doesn't make it incorrect. If you want to try and disprove it, go ahead. But don't think what you just posted is an argument. ;)
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No, it's incorrect because Marxism is a failed ideology. It didn't work. Many years ago, people tried all this stupidity you are spewing, and it failed, because once the ruling class has all the money and power, they also have all the freedom. This means they can be as corrupt as they please, and they only need to account to themselves for it. When you complain too loudly, or begin to threaten the ruling class, they line you up in front of an open ditch and execute you.

So, everything you have to say about "value extraction" and similar Marxist ideas, leads to the open ditch scenario, which means it can be discounted in any intelligent argument.
 
Thing1 said:
I don't think Marxism would succeed, but it's never been tried.
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Yes, it was tried under Soviet ruler Karl Marx, did you fail World History or something?

A variation was again tried by Chairman Mao in China and Pol Pot in Cambodia. Both failed again.

Repeatedly, when some form of Marxist, Socialist or Communist government is established, it ends in disaster. Sometimes it even ends with people being executed.
 
Thing1 said:
I don't think Marxism would succeed, but it's never been tried.
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That's nonsense. One could just as easily argue (and some do) that capitalism has never been tried. Marxism/Communism has been tried and it failed miserably. Capitalism has been very successful.
 
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