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how about a wonderful life with adoptive parents who will love and support them......let the woman who really would rather kill them, give them up for adoption instead and then go on about their lives.....

Again with the WOMAN. You guys make me sick. Not one of you anti-choicers acknowledged that it takes two to make a baby, nor will you ever admit to how many men approve the woman's abortion because in Grind's words, "it would be a travesty and an utter disaster" if the man had to financially support the baby for two decades.
 
Please prove that.

"Contraception accounts for 35% of PPFA's total services and abortions account for 3%; PPFA conducts roughly 300,000 abortions each year, among 3 million people served."


 
Again with the WOMAN. You guys make me sick. Not one of you anti-choicers acknowledged that it takes two to make a baby, nor will you ever admit to how many men approve the woman's abortion because in Grind's words, "it would be a travesty and an utter disaster" if the man had to financially support the baby for two decades.

Yeah, it only takes two people to create the baby if you decided to keep it, and not kill it, then all of the sudden the man is absolutely essential to you supporting it, but if you decide to kill it, then the man has no say...Spare me.
 
2008 was 90 years ago? And the quotes from Sanger, the founder of PP, are relevant, because I believe that the core mission has never changed.

That's who I was talking about when I referenced 90 years. I don't know of anyone who holds these particular views of Sanger today, except maybe skinheads, Neo-Nazis and bigots.
 
"Contraception accounts for 35% of PPFA's total services and abortions account for 3%; PPFA conducts roughly 300,000 abortions each year, among 3 million people served."



Does PP keep money in separate accounts that we can trace to monitor to see if what they say is true? I don't think they do.
 
Yeah, it only takes two people to create the baby if you decided to keep it, and not kill it, then all of the sudden the man is absolutely essential to you supporting it, but if you decide to kill it, then the man has no say...Spare me.

I do not believe that for every couple who have an unwanted pregnancy, there is a man on his knees begging the woman not to abort.
 
Um, any chance at LIFE is better than the certain death via butchering that you would give them. What could they possibly experience in life that would be as bad as being ripped apart during an abortion?

Visit a hospital the specializes in the care of genetically ill children. Unless you see the suffering first hand you'll never understand.

As for the way abortions are done the fetus should be anesthetized. That would solve the pain problem.
 
I do not believe that for every couple who have an unwanted pregnancy, there is a man on his knees begging the woman not to abort.

I didn't say in every case now did I? Are you then saying that the father should have a say in whether or not the abortion should take place?
 
it is not the same thing. the rational for both are different. using your logic, rape and sex are the same, however, they are not. the rational behind the different acts are wholly different, despite both involve sex..... would you agree?

You do have a point, Yurt. One can say to a woman, "I want to have sex with you" or "I want to make love to you." While both involve sex saying the latter will more likely result in sex occurring. ;)
 
Visit a hospital the specializes in the care of genetically ill children. Unless you see the suffering first hand you'll never understand.

As for the way abortions are done the fetus should be anesthetized. That would solve the pain problem.

Do you believe that equals the 1.2 million per year?
 
how about a wonderful life with adoptive parents who will love and support them......let the woman who really would rather kill them, give them up for adoption instead and then go on about their lives.....

You forget the shortage of children is the result of over one million abortions per year. Add one million children to the adoption files, year after year, then try to visualize the numbers. If unable to do so read a little history about orphanages and how the children were treated. And let's not forget the general Repub position regarding helping anyone. Do you really believe a Repub government would properly finance orphanages when there would be no one directly involved to champion their cause? Or do you see 6 and 8 year olds petitioning Congress for funding?

Try to be honest here. What financial support do single, pregnant women get? Or single mothers? Or the children of parents on welfare? And you expect us to believe the government would supply decent care for the millions of adoptees? You'll never convince anyone of that, PmP.
 
So you'd like to force her to carry the child to term? 'Smaller government' - isn't that a righty slogan? But it doesn't apply to women's reproductive rights, does it?

Still wondering why sane people don't take the Righty retards seriously?

And hey - how many unwanted black orphans are in demand in this country? Poor unfit black mothers can't squeeze enough of them out to meet the demand....right, retard?

The Right don't advocate a government small enough to drown in a bath tub. Just small enough to fit in a vagina. :)
 
why wouldn't a woman who lives a life of poverty, addiction, crime and disfunction put her child up for adoption instead of kill it?......

Because prospective adopters don't want children from alcoholics and drug addicts because the child has a good chance of suffering from related illnesses.

(Excerpt) Alcohol crosses the placental barrier and can stunt fetal growth or weight, create distinctive facial stigmata, damage neurons and brain structures, which can result in psychological or behavioral problems, and cause other physical damage.....The main effect of FAS is permanent central nervous system damage, especially to the brain. Developing brain cells and structures can be malformed or have development interrupted by prenatal alcohol exposure; this can create an array of primary cognitive and functional disabilities (including poor memory, attention deficits, impulsive behavior, and poor cause-effect reasoning) as well as secondary disabilities (for example, predispositions to mental health problems and drug addiction. (End) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_syndrome

I suppose in your fantasy world you see prospective parents shouting out, "I'll take two of those special children!" The reality is they'll spend their entire childhood in under funded institutions and when released as adults and ultimately fumble in society we'll hear the Repub mantra, "Take responsibility or go to jail."

Yep, those Repub folks certainly know how to think things through.
 
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