"Science" textbook for fundamentalist homeschoolers

Excuse me, is there something in the textbook we are discussing here, that infers hate or persecution? If so, can you point that out? Because I ain't seeing it.
You are implying that science is debatable and that creationism should be allowed to be taught as an alternative explanation in classrooms. You promote the notion that science is scared to enter the 'debate' when in fact those of use who live in the real world know that there is no debate. Certain Christians feel persecuted because their insane beliefs are ridiculed...they can't get no respect. Usually these are the same Christians that like to make a public spectacle of their 'belief'...they want attention. When they get negative attention for their hypocrisy they claim they're being persecuted. Personally I don't think any of that has anything to do with Christianity or belief...just saying.
 
You are implying that science is debatable and that creationism should be allowed to be taught as an alternative explanation in classrooms. You promote the notion that science is scared to enter the 'debate' when in fact those of use who live in the real world know that there is no debate. Certain Christians feel persecuted because their insane beliefs are ridiculed...they can't get no respect. Usually these are the same Christians that like to make a public spectacle of their 'belief'...they want attention. When they get negative attention for their hypocrisy they claim they're being persecuted. Personally I don't think any of that has anything to do with Christianity or belief...just saying.

I missed the part where I was arguing that a Christian School science book should be used in public schools, can you point me to that quote, please?

And by the way, this thread (and others) seem to always be started by someone who is NOT Christian, and who wants to denigrate Christians, and deny them their constitutional right to religious expression. I don't see many Christians here trying to ram their views down your throat, if you could point a few of them out for me, that would be a big help.
 
We're talking about a book that is used to teach children, education, and an insane, ignorant book that is sold as educational material. What are you talking about?

How are your rights to express yourself as a Christian being curtailed?

Here are adults, too stupid to have even a basic understanding of science, trying desperately to make sure that the school children in their community will ALSO lack a basic understanding of science. (Kind of like a Republican manufacturing plant.)

They use their stated desire to make sure their children have the opportunity to learn the completely fabricated "controversy" among scientists, to camouflage their true intentions. Which of course is to protect their religion against any of that newfangled "thinking,"which tends to create unbelievers.

Or as these people label them, Satanists.

This is happening today all over the country, most recently in Louisiana. THIS is why I fear for our children's future.

Thankfully the Millennials are rejecting religion, at an incredible pace.

 
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We're talking about a book that is used to teach children, education, and an insane, ignorant book that is sold as educational material. What are you talking about?

How are your rights to express yourself as a Christian being curtailed?

No, you are talking about an educational textbook for Christian schools, and you are using a page from that book to make false and misleading determinations and insinuations about the whole book. In the process, you are completely disregarding and ignoring the uniform state standards for education that MUST BE MET by every graduating student. Aside from Divine intervention, how else would students learn the things they must know to pass the state testing and get a diploma? Why are Christian School graduates also able to get into pretty much any college they want to go to? Maybe the mostly-liberal universities out there, are all unfairly playing favorites to ignorant Christians? Does that make sense in your world?

I am not a Christian, so my rights aren't in question here. These people who educate their children in a Christian school, have the right to do so. You don't have the right to tell them how to teach, or what they can't teach. This is more a matter of what YOU DON'T have the right to do, than my personal rights.
 
No, you are talking about an educational textbook for Christian schools, and you are using a page from that book to make false and misleading determinations and insinuations about the whole book. In the process, you are completely disregarding and ignoring the uniform state standards for education that MUST BE MET by every graduating student. Aside from Divine intervention, how else would students learn the things they must know to pass the state testing and get a diploma? Why are Christian School graduates also able to get into pretty much any college they want to go to? Maybe the mostly-liberal universities out there, are all unfairly playing favorites to ignorant Christians? Does that make sense in your world?

I am not a Christian, so my rights aren't in question here. These people who educate their children in a Christian school, have the right to do so. You don't have the right to tell them how to teach, or what they can't teach. This is more a matter of what YOU DON'T have the right to do, than my personal rights.
NO...I'm talking about the fundamentalists trying to 'teach the controversy'...a controversy that doesn't exist. They do it at home and they want to do it with taxpayer money as well.
 
I missed the part where I was arguing that a Christian School science book should be used in public schools, can you point me to that quote, please?

And by the way, this thread (and others) seem to always be started by someone who is NOT Christian, and who wants to denigrate Christians, and deny them their constitutional right to religious expression. I don't see many Christians here trying to ram their views down your throat, if you could point a few of them out for me, that would be a big help.

Poor Dicksee. Still got me on ignore cuz he can't handle the truth. btw - I'm not Christian, I'm Jewish so I'm not "trying to ram views down your throat", that's your job. We're too intelligent to do that.

Here's an idea. How would dicksee react to someone setting up a school in Louisiana that teaches homosexuality is normal and heterosexuality is abnormal? Then receives these same federal funds to run that school and let the breeder's kids attend it?
 
Poor Dicksee. Still got me on ignore cuz he can't handle the truth. btw - I'm not Christian, I'm Jewish so I'm not "trying to ram views down your throat", that's your job. We're too intelligent to do that.

Here's an idea. How would dicksee react to someone setting up a school in Louisiana that teaches homosexuality is normal and heterosexuality is abnormal? Then receives these same federal funds to run that school and let the breeder's kids attend it?
Or how about a school that teaches witchcraft or a Muslim school?
 
NO...I'm talking about the fundamentalists trying to 'teach the controversy'...a controversy that doesn't exist. They do it at home and they want to do it with taxpayer money as well.

This thread is about a Christian school book for Christian school children. 4th Grade, to be exact.

It is not your place to declare there is no controversy, that is YOUR OPINION! They do not share YOUR viewpoint on this... that's why they are in a Christian school and not a Public school. It seems to me, YOU are the one who wants to stick your nose where it doesn't belong here, not the other way around.
 
Or how about a school that teaches witchcraft or a Muslim school?

If witches and Muslims want to develop a school textbook and have privately-funded schools, and produce students who pass the standardized tests required by the state board of education, then I have no problem with it, why do you?
 
If witches and Muslims want to develop a school textbook and have privately-funded schools, and produce students who pass the standardized tests required by the state board of education, then I have no problem with it, why do you?

Still doesn't get it...
 
If witches and Muslims want to develop a school textbook and have privately-funded schools, and produce students who pass the standardized tests required by the state board of education, then I have no problem with it, why do you?
Privately funded isn't publicly funded...voucher programs use public money to fund insane religious teaching in education. By the way...how do you staff this program that is going to provide the tests and monitor the schools...who pays for it? I believe I read recently that schools with a certain number of students (small schools) fly under the radar as they're not monitored.
 
You are implying that science is debatable and that creationism should be allowed to be taught as an alternative explanation in classrooms. You promote the notion that science is scared to enter the 'debate' when in fact those of use who live in the real world know that there is no debate. Certain Christians feel persecuted because their insane beliefs are ridiculed...they can't get no respect. Usually these are the same Christians that like to make a public spectacle of their 'belief'...they want attention. When they get negative attention for their hypocrisy they claim they're being persecuted. Personally I don't think any of that has anything to do with Christianity or belief...just saying.

Actually, anyone who would say that there is "no debate" when it comes to science, obviously doesn't believe in science. Anyone who says there is consensus in science, doesn't believe in science.


But, let's have some fun. Since you say there is no debate that man in his present form is 100% a product of evolution, then you and science can answer a few questions for me.

1) How did the human eye evolve?
2) What came first the ability to see or the ability to hear?
3) When did man develop the ability to convert ATP to ADP?

Thanks in advance for your contribution to the advancement of science.
 
Actually, anyone who would say that there is "no debate" when it comes to science, obviously doesn't believe in science. Anyone who says there is consensus in science, doesn't believe in science.


But, let's have some fun. Since you say there is no debate that man in his present form is 100% a product of evolution, then you and science can answer a few questions for me.

1) How did the human eye evolve?
2) What came first the ability to see or the ability to hear?
3) When did man develop the ability to convert ATP to ADP?

Thanks in advance for your contribution to the advancement of science.
:palm: Unfucking believable.....:whoa:
 
Privately funded isn't publicly funded...voucher programs use public money to fund insane religious teaching in education. By the way...how do you staff this program that is going to provide the tests and monitor the schools...who pays for it? I believe I read recently that schools with a certain number of students (small schools) fly under the radar as they're not monitored.

Voucher programs use tax dollars that currently fund public schools, to go to individuals who can send their kids to whatever kind of school they please, as long as standardized tests are passed, etc., as I mentioned before. If you don't understand how states determine who gets a high school diploma, you should research that. It's not my job to educate you on these things. I doubt there is much monitoring at all of private schools by the government, they have no business monitoring, it's an invasion of privacy. It's none of government's business. We have standardized accredited tests in order to maintain a consistent standard across the nation, in terms of basic education. No one can get a diploma without meeting the standard, it doesn't matter what kind of school they attend. This doesn't require any staffing, other than the usual staffing we have now in the state education systems, because this is how we do it already.
 
You seem lost. Voucher programs are funding religious education of all kinds...except where the republican legislatures are attempting to exempt religions they disapprove of, and they do it with taxpayer money....
 
You seem lost. Voucher programs are funding religious education of all kinds...except where the republican legislatures are attempting to exempt religions they disapprove of, and they do it with taxpayer money....

No, voucher programs that I am familiar with are just that... voucher. A voucher is something that is given to an individual, and represents the value that previously went to the state. The individual makes a choice of how to use the voucher to educate their children. As far as I am aware, state legislatures can't 'exempt' anything on the basis of religion, it's unconstitutional. I think it is YOU who is lost.
 
Voucher programs use tax dollars that currently fund public schools

Doesn't want to get it. Then would have to admit wrongness.

Well, he kinda does get it...in a Forrest Gump sort of way...

No, voucher programs that I am familiar with are just that... voucher. A voucher is something that is given to an individual, and represents the value that previously went to the state.

And he even admits it's public school funds being used. He's just not smart enough to realize it.

Can someone answer a question? What happens to the public school where those funds were supposed to go to?
 
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