Billy the Great Khan
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You're gonna need a few more zeros on that one.
"Science" textbook for fundamentalist homeschoolers
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You're gonna need a few more zeros on that one.
wanderingbear
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Ya you idiot like to teach your children lies ,based on mythology. Poor kids.
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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Why do they do that, these electrons? Was the valance shell of atoms expecting this, did it realize it first had to exist for the electrons?
You are explaining the HOW part really well, and we know HOW electricity works. I am asking you WHY?
Can you explain the phenomenon or not? So far, you've told me how it functions, and how it works, I am asking why it exists?
Where did this thing, that we know exists and can explain, come from? Do you have an answer?
Mystery NOT solved!!
Billy the Great Khan
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Because of a charge imbalance.
Do you even know what the valance shell of an atom is?
See above.
Funny, because that's not what the book in question attempts to state. It says that no one knows HOW it works, not no one knows why electrons move through valance shells to try and remain stable in their atomic order.
Electricity? I just said it comes from electrons moving.
Someone archive this somewhere, I have a feeling it's another Dixie classic.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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But see.... here's the thing, we don't HAVE the textbook, so we don't really KNOW what the textbook says. We only know this one part, that's all we're given. The part we're not given, might very well go on to explain how electricity works and functions, and what causes it to happen, but they aren't dealing with that aspect here, it's a completely different part of the conversation. In MY opinion, they are making the fundamentalist argument... WHY?
It has nothing to do with knowing how electricity works and what natural forces cause it, or how to generate it, etc. I am relatively sure those things have to be taught, even to Christians who expect to earn a diploma. What you are doing, is engaging in what secularists like to always do, distorting context to dishonestly make some point. You've grabbed this one tiny snippet from a textbook, and blown it entirely out of context to claim these people are teaching a completely different science. You even say "the textbook says..." so you clearly interpret this one tiny snippet to represent the entire textbook itself. Why do you make such an interpretation? Because you are an ignorant dummy, I guess... you can answer for yourself.
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I fixed your post by highlighting what you should have.
BINGO... there is a whole LOT that we don't KNOW WHY it happens, it just does. Here's another kick in the pants, we can even rely on things to always happen and predict them, or make them happen ourselves, and still not know why that is the case. Why it happens. What makes the properties of the universe react and inter-react as they do? Have you got an answer, Genius?
Billy the Great Khan
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Funny Dix, because here is what I ACTUALLY say.
In my statement I already explain that electrons move in order to remain stable. They try to remain stable because matter moves from disorder towards order (at the sub atomic level this isn't entirely accurate but at every level greater it applies). The text of the book directly states otherwise, and goes further with its falsities by stating that no one has observed electricity. Seriously Dixie, why can you not accept that there is a fucked up and erroneous book, and it's connected to Christianity? It doesn't invalidate the teachings of Jesus or the Bible in anyway, but clinging to the idea that the book is somehow correct makes you (and everyone else who does the same) look like a giant retard.
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Dixie, I did not quote crap out of context. I posted a picture of the page. There is no way that context makes that page any less of a lie.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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The page doesn't show me the whole book, Einstein. How do I not know, that on the next page, is all the stuff that you'd find in any typical textbook? I don't! If I had the whole chapter, perhaps I could tell more... but by one page of a book, you can't very well make an accurate assessment. Especially in a textbook, because so much of it becomes a process of building, it can't all be taught on one page of a book... even you should be smart enough to figure that out, WB.
it's child abuse and should be outlawed. we are purposely filling children's heads with stupidity, which will in time be reflected back upon society.
It's against the law to not educate children. If a parent didn't send their kid to school, the government would eventually step in and either mandate public schooling or CPS would be involved.
Teaching kids creationist theories in the place of science is still not educating them in any way. Those that teach their kids delusional christian myths in place of actual knowledge are bad parents, and their children should be taken away from them and properly educated by rational, thinking adults.
you are old and you will be dead soon. the dinosaurs that are stubbornly stuck in their delusional spheres will fade out in due time. You will be replaced. You will be forgotten. You cannot stop it. It is inevitable.
Victory is ours.
dixie = icp
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They're not necessarily bad parents; some of them are otherwise intelligent people, but they are ignorant on the subject because their parents also filled their heads with lies. Sooner or later, however, the cycle will come to an end. I chose to become educated and will not be teaching my children creationism. They are free to make up their own minds about religion, but I will make sure they're presented with the facts. I know many other people my age who've reached similar conclusions in spite of their upbringing. Like you said, victory is ours.
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LMFAO.. No, we're not talking about me educating my kids.
We're discussing a Christian School textbook, which is apparently under fire because it
(sic) beleaves differntly from others as you once put it.
One of my children did have a year of Baptist school. Straightened her butt right out! I have a buddy from high school, was smart and had a great future ahead of him, and was pissing it all away by being a little delinquent. Our senior year, his parents yanked him out of public school, and he went off to the Catholic school, and we didn't hear from him again for years. Turns out, he's a successful music mogul making big bucks... his life turned out okay from 'krishtun' education.
Personally, the only time I would send my kid to a religious school, is if it were to prove a point, as it was in my case. Otherwise, it is cruel and unusual punishment, but hey... if Christian parents want to give their kids a Christian education, I have no problem with that. It's not my business! I CAN say this about it, when my daughter went for one year, it is ultimately what got her through high school. Before the Baptists got hold of her, the kid did good to not fail something, and almost never made an A... I never knew you could make a B in PE until she came along. After one year at Tabernacle, she was like a year ahead of her class when she returned to public school. Her grades were all A&B and she wasn't even trying. Of course, that was 10th grade, and as the years wore on, she dumbed back down with the rest of the sheep, but it really left an impression on me regarding religious schools, they have the discipline thing down, and that's important when trying to cram information into mush-brain heads.
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Do you think the next page will say "Just kidding, here is the definition of electricty and how it works"?
There is no justification for what that page says.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Like I explained, there is plenty of justification if you are a Christian, and if you have the whole book. You can't see any justification because A) You're not a Christian, and B) You don't have the book. I offered a perfectly legitimate and plausible explanation, perhaps that was part of the 'forward' in the chapter, and served to establish some fundamentalist Christian point, (being it's a Christian school book) instead of actually teaching nuts and bolts of science, and the actual 'science' part comes later in the chapter? You don't know that not to be the case because you don't have the book. You're taking something that was given in one context, and using it in another. You're basing everything they teach regarding science, on this one page, and I'm sorry, no science class can be taught on one page. You're demanding they explain something as complex as electricity on the one representative page you've pulled, and since they don't explain it to your satisfaction, you want to proclaim they are stupid people who are backward-educating their kids.... well, guess what, Mr. Brilliant, in order for students to obtain a high school diploma in any state, certain things have to be taught and learned, including things in science. There is no way this could be the spectacle you have created, no Christian school student would ever get a diploma. The fact that Christian school students get diplomas every day, is an indication your chain is being yanked here, and there's more than meets the eye... I'm guessing, in the remaining pages of this book you don't have.
You use Christian in an all inclusive form as though all Christians are this ignorant...so not true. It's just a certain group, SBC, that are this ignorant...and a few other sects like Amish etc. There are plenty of Christians that live in this century and are capable of following Jesus' message without the hate and sense of persecution.
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Excuse me, is there something in the textbook we are discussing here, that infers hate or persecution? If so, can you point that out? Because I ain't seeing it.