What did Jordan Neely do?

[Lightbringer]

What did Jordan Neely do?

He threatened to get violent.

 

[anonymoose]

Is that your final answer?

No.

 

[Jade Dragon]

I just finished watching Shrek again. Still funny. Eddie Murphy was awesome as Donkey. LOL

I thought Donkey was played by Chris Rock.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I thought Donkey was played by Chris Rock.

Eddy Murphy. IMO, it’s one of his best roles. Better than Beverly Hills Cop.

 

[Jade Dragon]

Eddy Murphy. IMO, it’s one of his best roles. Better than Beverly Hills Cop.

I think I'm thinking of a different animated movie. Madagascar is what I think it is.

 

[Walt]

Its not like Neely was going to follow NCAA rules. So if you are going to risk getting beat up you should fight MMA rules not NCAA

You really do have trouble telling reality from fantasy.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I think I'm thinking of a different animated movie. Madagascar is what I think it is.

Another good one. I liked the penguins.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You really do have trouble telling reality from fantasy.

That is my observation as well.

In the biggest Blue City in America, a mentally ill guy screaming about being hungry was forcibly subdued and accidentally killed. Now tell me this is all Penny’s fault. LOL

 

[Jarod]

What did Jordan Neely do?

He threatened to get violent.

Citation? Now days it’s ok to kill someone for saying,”I’d kill someone”.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What did Jordan Neely do?

He threatened to get violent.

The Trumpers on 1/6 all got very violent. I agree the police should have taken them down like Neeley and Nazi mass murderers. .

 

[ExpressLane]

Something similar happened to me one time also, but when I asked the guy what he wanted, he just wanted to use the phone, when I let him use the phone, he left quietly. I know of two local cases where attorneys were killed by their clients. Both divorce situations, and wealthy murderers.

Justifiable homicide

 

[Nordberg]

No, he was not a trained police officer in the military, this idea that because Marines were taught hand to hand combat it means they had the same training as a police officer is simply incorrect, absurdly so. Military personnel may be trained to subdue someone with a hold, and this is one of the ways they were trained, but they are not all trained in Law Enforcement tactics. It is unusual for this particular hold to end the way it did. As I noted, even the prosecutor in NYC where they overcharge crimes in the hopes they'll get a plea deal, knew he had no basis to say it was his purpose.

Anyway, the standard will be "reasonable person" as he is not Law Enforcement any more than you are.

Contradiction there. You claim he was well trained on how to use force, yet he killed him. That is not good training, or he wanted to kill him.

 

[Nordberg]

Neely was a Micheal Jackson impersonator. He was a skinny little guy.
His mother was murdered when he was 14 and he had to testify at the trial. His family says that is when he broke. He had mental problems and was not getting enough help. He cried that he was hungry and thirsty. He was in bad straights. But he attacked nobody, he just yelled and made them uncomfortable. So Penny strangled him. That quieted him down.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

What did Jordan Neely do?

Took out a violent lunatic on the NYC subway.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Neely was a Micheal Jackson impersonator. He was a skinny little guy.
His mother was murdered when he was 14 and he had to testify at the trial. His family says that is when he broke. He had mental problems and was not getting enough help. He cried that he was hungry and thirsty. He was in bad straights. But he attacked nobody, he just yelled and made them uncomfortable. So Penny strangled him. That quieted him down.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Contradiction there. You claim he was well trained on how to use force, yet he killed him. That is not good training, or he wanted to kill him.

Here's the thing: anyone who has had some years of TRADITIONAL training in a martial art knows that there are a plethora of ways to subdue an opponent WITHOUT going to the ground in a choke hold (or using a "sleeper hold"). The opponent may suffer some bruising (or in some cases a broken limb) and after pain, but they'll be alive.

Perry obviously only had a limited muscle memory of what would make him safe from retaliation and put an end to the opponent. That comes from training ONLY to be in combat via military situations. Sad.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Took out a violent lunatic on the NYC subway.

 

[Earl]

Neely threatened to kill people. Wrestlers use rear naked choke holds all the time. Yes it is unfortunate that Neely died but Neely is responsible for the events that led to his death.

Indeed.

Neely had been arrested 40 plus times.

Why was he still on the streets?

 

[Damocles]

Contradiction there. You claim he was well trained on how to use force, yet he killed him. That is not good training, or he wanted to kill him.

You are reaching. You have built a strawman, pretending I said something I did not then arguing against that. You failed, your fallacy was made of onion skin.

The reality: Even the prosecutor understands that he did not try to kill him. Had he believed that he meant to kill him he would be charged with first degree murder after getting a grand jury to indict him. The prosecutor in NYC, where they overcharge in the hopes of getting plea agreements, knows that he has no reasonable cause and would not get a true bill to charge with a capital crime here.

This trial will focus on whether a reasonable person could believe that he or others were in danger, and whether such a hold was "reasonable". He used a hold that is not considered deadly, he didn't use a weapon. I think even a NYC jury is likely to acquit this former Marine as he tried to protect others from an erratic stranger threatening folks on the subway. Now, what I did say was that this gentleman was not law enforcement trained so the "excessive force" rules they apply to cops would not apply, as he is a civilian the standard that will apply will be the "reasonable" standard as he is not trained as LE.

 

[Nordberg]

You are reaching. You have built a strawman, pretending I said something I did not then arguing against that. You failed, your fallacy was made of onion skin.

The reality: Even the prosecutor understands that he did not try to kill him. Had he believed that he meant to kill him he would be charged with first degree murder after getting a grand jury to indict him. The prosecutor in NYC, where they overcharge in the hopes of getting plea agreements, knows that he has no reasonable cause and would not get a true bill to charge with a capital crime here.

This trial will focus on whether a reasonable person could believe that he or others were in danger, and whether such a hold was "reasonable". He used a hold that is not considered deadly, he didn't use a weapon. I think even a NYC jury is likely to acquit this former Marine as he tried to protect others from an erratic stranger threatening folks on the subway. Now, what I did say was that this gentleman was not law enforcement trained so the "excessive force" rules they apply to cops would not apply, as he is a civilian the standard that will apply will be the "reasonable" standard as he is not trained as LE.

He strangled him for 15 minutes and would not stop even though people were telling him he was killing him. He was deliberately killing him. If he was a combat expert as you claim, he knew what the end would be. You are wrong again.