How should we punish China?

I am telling you that China works much better than America does, and that they are going to keep kicking our ass.

No question that the Chinese are hard workers with admirable family structure and values. But we are dealing with their corrupt government...
 
Some are suggesting that we don't pay back the money that they loaned us. I say that is a good start...

LOL! Dude, you better be worried China don't escalate their Treasury Bonds!

Because if they did, and we didn't pay out, the other 75 nations that finance the US treasury would do the very same thing- AND YOU CAN FORGET LIFE AS YOU KNOW IT!

You people are some of the most irresponsible thinkers in the world.

One of these days, and it will only be just a few more months, YOU TRUMPTARDS are going to learn a valuable lesson in life- THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO EVERYTHING- MOST CERTAINLY BAD BEHAVIOR AND BAD DECISIONS!
 
Dutch is right wing?

All the extremist political nutjobs think I'm "the other wing". You're one, you think I'm a Librul, tree-hugging Biden-supporting commie, but that's just as wrong as Nomad's POV. Both of you are fucking idiots.

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No question that the Chinese are hard workers with admirable family structure and values. But we are dealing with their corrupt government...

We should be dealing with our corrupt government, but most of these fucks I live with still have not figured out how disastrously corrupt America is now.

The Chinese are much more honest and clear headed....which has a lot to do with why China works.
 
LOL! Dude, you better be worried China don't escalate their Treasury Bonds!

Because if they did, and we didn't pay out, the other 75 nations that finance the US treasury would do the very same thing- AND YOU CAN FORGET LIFE AS YOU KNOW IT!

You people are some of the most irresponsible thinkers in the world.

One of these days, and it will only be just a few more months, YOU TRUMPTARDS are going to learn a valuable lesson in life- THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO EVERYTHING- MOST CERTAINLY BAD BEHAVIOR AND BAD DECISIONS!

You mean raise interest rates on established debt? I'd have no problem ignoring that unethical and corrupt practice.
 
All the extremist political nutjobs think I'm "the other wing". You're one, you think I'm a Librul, tree-hugging Biden-supporting commie, but that's just as wrong as Nomad's POV. Both of you are fucking idiots.

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No, I just think, actually I know, that you're merely an envious asshole.
 
We should be dealing with our corrupt government, but most of these fucks I live with still have not figured out how disastrously corrupt America is now.

The Chinese are much more honest and clear headed....which has a lot to do with why China works.

Hopefully Trump will finally deal with our corrupt government. But I think you're naive to think that the ChiComs aren't even more corrupt.
 
Hopefully Trump will finally deal with our corrupt government. But I think you're naive to think that the ChiComs aren't even more corrupt.

The election of Trump was supposed to be The Failed Intelligentsia's last warning.

They refused to listen.

We are so screwed.
 
I am telling you that China works much better than America does, and that they are going to keep kicking our ass.

Dictatorships, regardless if monarchies, fascist or communist, are always going to be more efficient than Democracies.

"Democracies are messy" -- SecDef Rumsfeld

Additionally, China does it for power, the US does it for profit. Psychologically, if you know what motivates someone, you have an edge on knowing how to manipulate them.
 
You mean raise interest rates on established debt? I'd have no problem ignoring that unethical and corrupt practice.

Heaven's forbid no! Treasury Bonds are auctioned to a mature price that we have to stand behind. It is Uncle Sam's word! The most surest thing in the entire world.

Ok, well that was before the onset of a Donald Trump presidency- some nations are already pointing that out!

That is all we have is our word! We can't blow that now!

The US has never defrauded a loan and we won't now!

You want to punish China- Sanctions is the only way!

Oh, and remaining to be the leader of the world! We can never lose that title either.
 
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Dictatorships, regardless if monarchies, fascist or communist, are always going to be more efficient than Democracies.

"Democracies are messy" -- SecDef Rumsfeld

Additionally, China does it for power, the US does it for profit. Psychologically, if you know what motivates someone, you have an edge on knowing how to manipulate them.

America is deeply bankrupt, financially and most every other way too.

It is not lack of efficiency that caused this, it is the lack of will to do the right thing.
 
America is deeply bankrupt, financially and most every other way too.

It is not lack of efficiency that caused this, it is the lack of will to do the right thing.

The way Trump is printing money, I agree.

A slight disagreement. The IQ of a group of people goes down in inverse proportion to it's size. Or as Elmer Peterson once allegedly wrote:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters (i.e., we the people) discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. "

Democracies are flawed, which is why the Founders established our government as it did with lots of safeguards. Unfortunately, Americans have grown soft and lazy while elected leadership are destroying the country. This is where I again about "will" of the People.
 
The way Trump is printing money, I agree.

A slight disagreement. The IQ of a group of people goes down in inverse proportion to it's size. Or as Elmer Peterson once allegedly wrote:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters (i.e., we the people) discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. "

Democracies are flawed, which is why the Founders established our government as it did with lots of safeguards. Unfortunately, Americans have grown soft and lazy while elected leadership are destroying the country. This is where I again about "will" of the People.

Good point, elections make people feel like they have more power, than they actually probably do.

If it wasn't a Democracy voting rights, we'd probably be in the streets fighting.

Although, that could be good, or really bad.

Probably really bad, because Russia & China would probably provoke that as a pretext to invade.
 
The way Trump is printing money, I agree.

A slight disagreement. The IQ of a group of people goes down in inverse proportion to it's size. Or as Elmer Peterson once allegedly wrote:

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters (i.e., we the people) discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. "

Democracies are flawed, which is why the Founders established our government as it did with lots of safeguards. Unfortunately, Americans have grown soft and lazy while elected leadership are destroying the country. This is where I again about "will" of the People.

Trump is not printing money, the Federal government is... not everything is all about Trump.

Nothing is forever so saying that Democracies cant live forever is saying nothing. There is however a known birth-death cycle when it comes to societies....Paglia talks about this.....the fat/soft/lazy/dishonest dynamic is part of the death. Jordan Peterson talks about how the West has lost the power of rejuvenation, though he does not understand the how and why....this is right. At this point the West is so dead that there is realistically no hope that it will be saved from the current crisis, though I dont believe in giving up.
 
Heaven's forbid no! Treasury Bonds are auctioned to a mature price that we have to stand behind. It is Uncle Sam's word! The most surest thing in the entire world.

Ok, well that was before the onset of a Donald Trump presidency- some nations are already pointing that out!

That is all we have is our word! We can't blow that now!

The US has never defrauded a loan and we won't now!

You want to punish China- Sanctions is the only way!

Oh, and remaining to be the leader of the world! We can never lose that title either.

We'll just have to negotiate a different deal then.
 
Thinking you know something when, in fact, you do not, is just one of the many little things that make you a joke.

Have at it!

Oh, I know alright. Anyone who tries to give unsolicited, unwarranted and unwanted marital advice on a political debate forum is nothing but an asshole.
 
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