Feminists applaud Trump for support of Iranian dissidents

Shape Shifter said:
The common perception, rightly or wrongly, is that women will march if they feel that they might have to pay $5 a month for birth control pills but stay silent on the plight of women in the Middle East and Asia.
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And ironically the ones marching are usually well able to pay for their own birth control.

As is typical with arrogant, condescending liberals, they have deputized themselves as "warriors for the oppressed".
 
Shape Shifter said:
The common perception, rightly or wrongly, is that women will march if they feel that they might have to pay $5 a month for birth control pills but stay silent on the plight of women in the Middle East and Asia.

I'd be a lot more impressed if Gloria Steinem, Naomi Wolf or any number of third wave feminists spoke out but I must have missed it.

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Again, what do men want us to do about women in the ME that we're not doing already?

Mullahs aren't going to change their draconian laws because American women marched.
 
Hypocrisy, thy name is Christiecrite

christiefan915 said:
Again, what do men want us to do about women in the ME that we're not doing already? Mullahs aren't going to change their draconian laws because American women marched.
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Trump isn't going to leave the White House because American women march either, but that doesn't stop you, because superficial and silly cheap stunts are suddenly "empowering", "historic" and "consciousness-raising" when you agree with the marchers.
 
christiefan915 said:
Again, what do men want us to do about women in the ME that we're not doing already?

Mullahs aren't going to change their draconian laws because American women marched.
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Well why did people march against the Vietnam or Iraq Wars? Why aren't women, and men, protesting outside the Iranian embassy and consulates?

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Shape Shifter said:
Well why did people march against the Vietnam or Iraq Wars? Why aren't women, and men, protesting outside the Iranian embassy and consulates?

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And those marches didn't help either. Surely you remember how people like us were criticized for standing against the Iraq war.

I checked back to 2003 and found this: "According to BBC News, between six and eleven million people took part in protests in up to sixty countries over the weekend of 15 and 16 February; other estimates range from eight million to thirty million."

Yet it didn't help because going to war with Iraq was a done deal.
 
christiefan915 said:
It's amusing that people like you never criticize the paternalistic culture that lets men get away with treating women like dirt. It's always blame the victim instead.
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I most certainly would denounce the disgusting treatment of women by men in the Middle East and Asia. I have told about one example in Doha airport previously.

One truly evil practice is the disfiguring of women with acid. This practice is occurring more and more in the East End of London where there are many Muslim immigrants.

Not just women either, it seems to have become far more prevalent since the crackdown on knives. Men carry around acid in sport drink containers to use on victims, truly bloody awful.

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christiefan915 said:
And those marches didn't help either. Surely you remember how people like us were criticized for standing against the Iraq war.

I checked back to 2003 and found this: "According to BBC News, between six and eleven million people took part in protests in up to sixty countries over the weekend of 15 and 16 February; other estimates range from eight million to thirty million."

Yet it didn't help because going to war with Iraq was a done deal.
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Yes I remember very well but the Vietnam war protests most certainly helped to end that war. Well at least for Americans, people in Saigon reaped the whirlwind as my d-i-l's family can give you chapter and verse on the nastiness of the Vietminh.

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christiefan915 said:
It's amusing that people like you never criticize the paternalistic culture that lets men get away with treating women like dirt. It's always blame the victim instead.
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Is that so? I seem to recall criticizing Blowjob Billy.

Maybe you can provide some examples of this alleged impulse I have to "always blame the victim instead."

I'll understand if you can't, of course.
 
christiefan915 said:
And those marches didn't help either. Surely you remember how people like us were criticized for standing against the Iraq war. I checked back to 2003 and found this: "According to BBC News, between six and eleven million people took part in protests in up to sixty countries over the weekend of 15 and 16 February; other estimates range from eight million to thirty million." Yet it didn't help because going to war with Iraq was a done deal.
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Amusing. You think allying yourself with Desh in sisterly solidarity on a message forum is effective but not doing the same in support of the people of Iraq who are protesting Obama's patriarchal pals?

I don't believe that you think the Vietnam protests were ineffectual. I think you believe they helped end the war. Shall I delve into the archives?
 
Shape Shifter said:
I most certainly would denounce the disgusting treatment of women by men in the Middle East and Asia. I have told about one example in Doha airport previously.

One truly evil practice is the disfiguring of women with acid. This practice is occurring more and more in the East End of London where there are many Muslim immigrants.

Not just women either, it seems to have become far more prevalent since the crackdown on knives. Men carry around acid in sport drink containers to use on victims, truly bloody awful.
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I don't recall Dame Hagatha ever criticizing Muslims who abuse women.

Do you?

I imagine this will provoke a lame, insincere response that might include a lukewarm "rebuke" of sorts wrapped in in a condemnation of men generally.

It's more realistic to expect deflection from the doyenne of double standards, though, isn't it?
 
Shape Shifter said:
Yes I remember very well but the Vietnam war protests most certainly helped to end that war. Well at least for Americans, people in Saigon reaped the whirlwind as my d-i-l's family can give you chapter and verse on the nastiness of the Vietminh.
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I suspect she is lying as a matter of convenience. I may just check the archives for her past comments on the efficacy of protest.
 
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