Yes, some Republican senators really are talking openly about Social Security cuts

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Yes, Republicans want to cut Social Security.

Yes, some Republican senators really are talking openly about Social Security cuts
Published: Nov. 4, 2022 at 11:39 a.m. ET

If a Republican-controlled Congress comes for your Social Security benefits in the next few years, don’t say they didn’t warn you.

They did.

Sen. Mike Lee of Utah brings to a round dozen the number of sitting GOP senators who have said, quite openly, that they want to put Social Security on the chopping block one way or another.

As Social Security benefits are looking at a 20% cut without new taxes, we may be talking about major changes to America’s retirement plan.

Meanwhile, according to the latest numbers at Predictit.org, the online betting market, the Republicans are cruising toward control of the House after next week’s midterms and have a growing chance of also winning the Senate. Which means they would have the means and opportunity as well as the motive to start taking the pruning shears, or an ax, to America’s retirement plan.

Make of that what you will.

Lee this week refused to disavow or deny his past remarks that he wanted “to phase out Social Security, to pull it up by the roots and get rid of it.” He made those remarks in 2010, and an audio recording just resurfaced — and is appearing in a (video) attack ad in Utah, where Lee is up for re-election.

Challenged about the remarks, Lee told an interviewer late last month, “I don’t recall ever having advocated for dismantling those [programs]. … I don’t recall advocating for dismantling them.” He added, “I vaguely remember a time in 2010 when we were talking about a bunch of things.”

Another clip exists showing Lee making other alarming remarks about what he would like to do to Social Security if he ever got his hands on it. “We have to start making some very difficult, some very drastic decisions about Social Security,” he said (also back in 2010). While he said those already receiving benefits should have those benefits left intact, “those who have not yet retired but will be retiring in the next 10 to 20 years need to be told right now, so they can start planning ahead, you have to start making some changes.”

Changes, he said, should include raising the age at which those who have paid into Social Security become eligible for benefits. That’s a cut in benefits for each future beneficiary, no matter what people call it.

(To be clear, Lee has said he doesn’t want to cut benefits for Americans who have already retired.)

Lee is not alone in wanting changes to Social Security. Fellow Senate Republican Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, one of his party’s ardent fans of anarcho-capitalist author Ayn Rand, is on record as wanting the program turned into “discretionary” federal spending.

Sen. Rick Scott of Florida, who as a private–sector businessman once oversaw the biggest fraud against Medicare in history, is on record as wanting to introduce an automatic five-year “sunset” on all federal programs, including Social Security and Medicare. “If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again,” Scott said.

Meanwhile eight other GOP senators say they want to “rescue” America’s retirement program with unspecified, er, measures … to be decided upon behind closed doors.

That proposal, put forward by Lee’s fellow Utah senator Mitt Romney, is also being championed by occasional Republican maverick Lindsey Graham, who earlier year spoke out for lower Social Security benefits for some to help “save” the program.

Among the other senators supporting Romney’s bill is Kyrsten Sinema, the Arizona Democrat who recently used her pivotal vote to save those important special tax breaks America offers to private-equity honchos, hedge-fund tycoons and venture capitalists. (The carried-interest loophole, designed just for them, cuts their top rate of income tax nearly in half.)

Naturally if you give billionaires a near-50% cut in their tax rates, the money has got to come from somewhere. And why not Grandma?

There is, actually, no reason to cut Social Security benefits unless you want to. The program can be maintained through other changes, such as ending the payroll-tax cap; investing the trust fund at least in part in stocks, as every other pension plan does; levying a wealth tax on all assets; increasing high-skilled immigration; or issuing bonds.

It will be interesting if, instead, the next Congress chooses to start cutting benefits. And if the voters who were perfectly well-informed in advance suddenly squeal with shock.

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They did warn you.
 
Debunking a fake claim about cuts to Social Security if Republicans win the House

• The screenshot is fake and does not align with language in the actual House Republican plan as published online.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...ing-fake-claim-about-cuts-social-security-if/

Instagram posts shared a screenshot showing a purported House Republican plan that says that if the GOP wins the majority, "Retirees who have a pension, IRAs, 401k, disabled veteran benefits will be ineligible for Social Security benefits."

The screenshot is fake and does not align with language in the actual House Republican plan.

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Earl said:
Debunking a fake claim about cuts to Social Security if Republicans win the House

• The screenshot is fake and does not align with language in the actual House Republican plan as published online.
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They screech Reps will cut Social Security every 2 years and it never happens. Usually there's an occasional raise for cost of living and it's never opposed.
 
RB 60 said:
They screech Reps will cut Social Security every 2 years and it never happens. Usually there's an occasional raise for cost of living and it's never opposed.
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Indeed. The far left Democrat Socialist loons, like Walter, are is full panic mode.

They post this crap and "pushing Grandma in a wheelchair off the cliff" every election cycle.

Poor Walter.
 
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"Congress must keep the promise made to current retirees and those nearing retirement, as Social Security has been one of the primary pillars of retirement support for millions of older Americans for the past eight decades. However, under current estimates, Social Security financial solvency will be threatened in the next decade. Reforms must be made to strengthen the long-term fiscal health of the program so that our children and grandchildren can have a bright future for retirement."

https://kevinmccarthy.house.gov/issues/social-security

Kevin McCarthy, House Minority Leader in the United States House of Representatives statement on Social Security.


Poor Walter.
 
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Walter, could you explain your post:

"No one can be forced to commit a crime."

You posted it three days ago.

I have asked Walter to explain his post at least five (5) times.

He must have missed it.

I see that you are currently browsing this thread, Walter.
 
Democrats Misleadingly Claim 'Republicans' Plan' Would 'End ...
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Claim: "Republicans’ plan would make Social Security disappear."
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Fact check by FactCheck.org: Misleading
 
Earl said:
Walter, could you explain your post:

"No one can be forced to commit a crime."

You posted it three days ago.

I have asked Walter to explain his post at least five (5) times.

He must have missed it.

I see that you are currently browsing this thread, Walter.
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Stewart Rhodes of the Neo-Nazi Oath Keepers claimed, "If you don't then Biden/Kamala will turn all that power on you, your family, and all of us. You and your family will be imprisoned and killed." Now a reasonable adult realizes that is garbage, but someone like you might think he is being forced into committing a crime through a threat to his family.

So are you being forced to commit treason against America? No... You would just be a fool.
 
Walt said:
Yes, Republicans want to cut Social Security.



They did warn you.
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Voters get the govt. they deserve. They were warned about trump, but refused to vote because they were butt hurt over Bernie's failures.

So they got the Supreme Court they were warned about.

If Democrats cannot be bothered to vote next Tuesday, then they will get the govt. they deserve.


Thankfully, there is very little that happens in Washington that affects me. Biden will veto any efforts by Republicans to slash SS benefits. They can shut down the govt. again if they wish. That rarely works in their favor.
 
RB 60 said:
They screech Reps will cut Social Security every 2 years and it never happens. Usually there's an occasional raise for cost of living and it's never opposed.
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It can't be opposed. It is not voted on by Congress. They want to cut Social Security. Rick Scott admitted this, and McConnell told him to keep quiet.
 
Concart said:
It can't be opposed. It is not voted on by Congress. They want to cut Social Security. Rick Scott admitted this, and McConnell told him to keep quiet.
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It still ain't happening. It hasn't yet and liberals have been lying it will for decades.


FJB
 
Concart said:
It can't be opposed. It is not voted on by Congress. They want to cut Social Security. Rick Scott admitted this, and McConnell told him to keep quiet.
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James Baldwin, a famous writer of the 50s and 60s, famously, and accurately, wrote "The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose."

Cancel social security, and I'm guessing there will be a lot of armed, angry old men with nothing to lose in blowing the heads off political loudmouths.
 
Althea said:
Voters get the govt. they deserve. They were warned about trump, but refused to vote because they were butt hurt over Bernie's failures.

So they got the Supreme Court they were warned about.

If Democrats cannot be bothered to vote next Tuesday, then they will get the govt. they deserve.


Thankfully, there is very little that happens in Washington that affects me. Biden will veto any efforts by Republicans to slash SS benefits. They can shut down the govt. again if they wish. That rarely works in their favor.
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Yet things were far better 4 years ago than they are today. Make any excuses you want, but that is a fact.

Yep. We got a few good new appointees confirmed. Thanks Trump!

Hopefully they stay home with their therapy pets and coloring books.

You people and your claims of slashing SS. You've been saying that for 40 years and it hasn't happened :rolleyes:
 
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