World power swings back to America

I stopped at Fargo and Bisquick on my last roadtrip. Driving through the flat prairies is kind of neat, because it contrasts from much of the rest of the trip, and they are pretty.

That said, when we stopped in Bozeman, MT, and I spent a few hours at the local speakeasy, there were several people who were transplants from ND, and they were like, "I don't really have to explain why I moved out here to Bozeman, do I?" LOLZ

My parents met in Bozeman. My dad worked there as steel worker (I.E. he built steel frames for buildings).
 
Ok. I read it and now I read at least 101 articles on fracking. Now what the hell does that article have to do with the fact that large amounts of water are used to extract the gas and the water becomes polluted?

Quote from the article.

There is no question that hydraulic fracturing uses a lot of water: It can take up to 7 million gallons to frack a single well, and at least 30 percent of that water is lost forever, after being trapped deep in the shale. And while there is some evidence that fracking has contributed to the depletion of water supplies in drought-stricken Texas, a study by Carnegie Mellon University indicates the Marcellus region has plenty of water and, in most cases, an adequate system to regulate its usage. The amount of water required to drill all 2916 of the Marcellus wells permitted in Pennsylvania in the first 11 months of 2010 would equal the amount of drinking water used by just one city, Pittsburgh, during the same period, says environmental engineering professor Jeanne VanBriesen, the study's lead author. Plus, she notes, water withdrawals of this new industry are taking the place of water once used by industries, like steel manufacturing, that the state has lost. Hydrogeologist David Yoxtheimer of Penn State's Marcellus Center for Outreach and Research gives the withdrawals more context: Of the 9.5 billion gallons of water used daily in Pennsylvania, natural gas development consumes 1.9 million gallons a day; livestock use 62 mgd; mining, 96 mgd; and industry, 770 mgd.
 
This is delusional nonsense. The only thing that's really changed in the past three years is that China will exceed our GDP in 2017 instead of 2020. I think that, should the Republicans win the white house in 2012, that's going to be more like 2014 or 2013. People keep pointing to the example of Japan, and I agree here. Except we are the Japan in this picture. American is falling apart and embracing its own demise.
 
This is delusional nonsense. The only thing that's really changed in the past three years is that China will exceed our GDP in 2017 instead of 2020. I think that, should the Republicans win the white house in 2012, that's going to be more like 2014 or 2013. People keep pointing to the example of Japan, and I agree here. Except we are the Japan in this picture. American is falling apart and embracing its own demise.

To misquote Mark Twain, "the reports of the USA's death are greatly exaggerated."


 

Lets see. 7 million gallons a well. 30 percent lost, 70% of that 7 million gallon is contaminated. Do you know what happens to that water? I'll tell you what doesn't happen. It is not treated or handled properly which leads to more contamination.

We drink water, pee it out, it gets treated and added back into the water supply.

OK lets do the math

2,100,000 gallons of water lost. 4,900,000 contaminated per well

20,412,000,000(lowest figure) gallons of water either lost or contaminated in total and usually dumped(untreated).

You can't compare that to water used by a city to drink, wash, cook or whatever. That water is treated and added back into the system.

Ohhhh ok, since one company stopped polluting, they can now take their place(note sarcasm).

What did you expect by a study done by the gas companies? Did you expect them to make an argument against fracking?LOL Don't you know that the job of a booky is sometimes to cook the numbers so they all add up?lol That is what these people are doing.
 
Lets see. 7 million gallons a well. 30 percent lost, 70% of that 7 million gallon is contaminated. Do you know what happens to that water? I'll tell you what doesn't happen. It is not treated or handled properly which leads to more contamination.

We drink water, pee it out, it gets treated and added back into the water supply.

OK lets do the math

2,100,000 gallons of water lost. 4,900,000 contaminated per well

20,412,000,000(lowest figure) gallons of water either lost or contaminated in total and usually dumped(untreated).

You can't compare that to water used by a city to drink, wash, cook or whatever. That water is treated and added back into the system.

Ohhhh ok, since one company stopped polluting, they can now take their place(note sarcasm).

What did you expect by a study done by the gas companies? Did you expect them to make an argument against fracking?LOL Don't you know that the job of a booky is sometimes to cook the numbers so they all add up?lol That is what these people are doing.

I don't think the amounts of water used are that excessive certainly not compared to the amounts that would be needed for recovering shale oil.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/debunking-myths-about-nuclear-fuel-coal-wind-solar-8
 
I don't think the amounts of water used are that excessive certainly not compared to the amounts that would be needed for recovering shale oil.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/debunking-myths-about-nuclear-fuel-coal-wind-solar-8

Considering the amount of water that is contaminated via fracking, not too mention the amount of water contaminated via dumping? It is not advisable. I prefer Nuclear, Solar and Wind.

Not to mention all the other dangers associated with fracking I have mentioned(quakes, radiation, ect....)
 
I stopped at Fargo and Bisquick on my last roadtrip. Driving through the flat prairies is kind of neat, because it contrasts from much of the rest of the trip, and they are pretty. That said, when we stopped in Bozeman, MT, and I spent a few hours at the local speakeasy, there were several people who were transplants from ND, and they were like, "I don't really have to explain why I moved out here to Bozeman, do I?" LOLZ

Is this where you stopped, ThreeDweeb?

bisquick.jpg
 
I also laughed at a sign not far from the ND/MT border which read "Sentinel Butte, Camel Hump Lake," because I was pronouncing butte as "butt" on every sign-post that I read...
 
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