“Woke”

Flash said:
Colleges have sided with students who opposed a (black) speaker who was going to speak against reparations because it is "insensitive" to minorities.

That one CA group wants to give all blacks $5 million and then give low income black families $98,000 per year for 250 years. Not sure how they are low income if they get $5 million.

Somebody is going to call us racist for these posts.
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I think it was around 2015 or so that I first really started hearing the term #staywoke used. Not surprising that San Francisco/Oakland would be at the forefront (not that the idea of wokeness is a new one but use of the term in more popular lexicon). So ask folks around here and plenty will tell you they're woke.

Now check out this headline from a week ago in the San Francisco Chronicle:

In Valentine's Day rally for S.F. reparations, Black leaders say city doesn't love its Black population

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/san-francisco-reparations-town-hall-17783943.php


Now how is that even possible in such a supposedly woke City?


But you'll notice reading this thread that there is still this level of abstractness about wokeness and then that its simply a political partisan slogan. This idea that 'I'm on the left and therefore I'm woke' or 'I'm on the right and therefore I'm not woke' is really missing a whole lot of nuance. But partisan politics leads to a lot of simple thinking unfortunately.
 
martin said:
The conventional dictionary definition is past tense of wake. The dictionary currently includes a "slang" definition for "woke" in the political context used as a cudgel by Right wingers against leftists, an imprecise mockery that works because of its very imprecision. When you ask Righties to explain what it means you inevitably get evasions like yours and others in this thread.
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If you want to speak in simply partisan terms those on the left say woke is not being racist yet plenty of people do racist things under the guise of being woke. Totally contradicts the meaning but you justify it I guess saying the ends justifies the means.
 
cawacko said:
If you want to speak in simply partisan terms those on the left say woke is not being racist yet plenty of people do racist things under the guise of being woke. Totally contradicts the meaning but you justify it I guess saying the ends justifies the means.
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Gobbledygook.
 
Flash said:
Not really. Woke can apply to a number of different political issues and attitudes not dealing with race. Of course, everything is about race to some.
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All "woke" means to people like you is that you can't go around deadnaming or using the N-word anymore without drawing ire or criticism, even though you really want to do both free of consequences.
 
cawacko said:
Not at all actually. It doesn't make sense of course strictly going off the dictionary definition but that's not the real world.
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The Trumppers formerly Republicans corrupted it and now use it as an insult for anyone trying not to be racist.
 
Jarod said:
Neither, a flub, misspeak.
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How many "misspeaks" constitutes a racist? I have to tell you I've seen leftists carry water for their candidates but youre a fucking camel. Had trump made even one of those statements you retards would have shit your pants. If you deny it then we know you're full of shit. This is precisely why leftists are retards.
 
LV426 said:
All "woke" means to people like you is that you can't go around deadnaming or using the N-word anymore without drawing ire or criticism, even though you really want to do both free of consequences.
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To me "woke" has relatively little to do with race. That is just one issue.

Only the most "woke" worry about issues like deadnaming.

I don't mind drawing ire or criticism. You and I both do it regularly on JPP. Someone who wants to avoid ire or criticism is afraid to exercise their free speech because somebody might not like them.
 
Jarod said:
The Trumppers formerly Republicans corrupted it and now use it as an insult for anyone trying not to be racist.
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No Jarod, that's not accurate. This board is dominated by old(er) white people. A lot of people here never even heard this term until a couple of years ago. That's why it's just associated here with how someone votes rather than how things are implemented in the real world. Like I said, read John McWhorters book Woke Racism. He's a black, liberal atheist and he speaks how wokeness has become a religion, a cult. He offers the best insight into why we see the pushback we do.
 
Flash said:
I don't mind drawing ire or criticism.
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Except that you get extremely fucking defensive when ire and criticism are directed your way.

Like, the most defensive of anyone on JPP.

Shitting in your own pants and then dismissing away the people who noticed you shit your pants, is the kind of pointless feedback loop that bOThsIdErISts use to validate their existence. So you're not bringing anything new to the table...you're just hacking old bullshit that everyone has seen thousands of times before from other, more articulate people.
 
LV426 said:
Right, we know how you refuse to accept that institutional racism exists, even though your "wife" has "faced more than will ever know".
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Nope, my wife has faced prejudice. You always misstate what others say. You told one guy I said my wife was Asian which I never said.

Institutional racism is a term for those who think everything is about race because they cannot accurately describe it or design a study to determine if it exists. Prejudice and discrimination are more precise descriptors.

Racism is too vague a term because people use it not just to discuss race but to apply to religion, ethnic group, nationality, and any other type of prejudice. It is especially used by woke people as a derogatory term for those who they have political differences. If you can put everybody in the racist and not racist category, you can satisfy your need to place the entire world into good and bad which always puts you in the good category.
 
Yakuda said:
No it means retarded idiot. That's you.
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It means "Black"...you know it, I know it, they know it, everyone knows it.

You can just say you don't like seeing Black people, you know...the Dilbert guy did that already, so he gave you some cover.
 
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