With Strife, Republicans Induced Their Own Poor Showing

This point is presented elsewhere in the forum. Giving it a separate thread. It is time to calm down.

George Will's conservative commentary is usually on the mark even for a liberal and it is again this morning. Older Democrats, he suggests, should think twice before accepting Biden's recommendation that they thank inflation for enabling an 8.7 increase in Social Security payments next year; Republicans should understand that the country never responds well to leaders who make a habit of demonizing political opponents or insists they accept nonsense that has a soothing quality (translate "stolen election"). With strife, Will suggests, Republicans induced their own poor showing.

It could be added that strife is the main, and witless, ingredient of this forum.

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It was actually George Will who said, "The current GOP is behaving like the Germans of the 1930's.".
 
I think MAGA rubes just thought there was this vast wellspring of hatred and anger towards Biden that would carry them forth on a Red Tsunami.


Because banning school textbooks and flying asylum seekers around the country on private chartered luxury jets aren't really compelling campaign issues to sell your party on nationally

Yep, Americans have grown tired of the MAGA hate, bigotry and lies. The midterms proved that.
 
As I suspected. A BIG part of jackasses voting the perpetually stupid ticket is the simple fact that you're a bunch of butthurt twinklepuffs who are all frowny faced because those mean ol' wepubwicans called you bad names. George should hang out on JPP for a while. If it's any consolation, I no longer claim to be an "election denier", I simply believe that the blue half of the American electorate is a bunch of petulant morons.

You got your ass handed to you last night. Your tears are delicious. Give us more!
 
Nope, you made explicitly clear that what you were looking forward to the most was Democrats screaming and crying about a massive Red Tsunami.

Which is exactly what did not happen.

It was the best midterm election performance by an incumbent party in two decades

It's amazing how many JPP members moved their goalposts yesterday morning :)
 
Liberals and progressives shouldn't be in a hurry to celebrate too much.

Yes, we thankfully avoided the huge red wave, but we still lost enough seats to totally fuck up the government even beyond where it's fucked up now.
Neither ideology will get any legislation passed for the next two years.
No incredibly destructive republican legislation.
No helpful Democratic legislation either.

Due to the assholes Manchin and Sinema, Biden couldn't pack the SCOTUS while he had the chance,
and now we'll have the current group of six fucking idiots on the court letting the red state legislatures do anything they want.

Good thing a couple of those red state legislatures flipped to blue, Tuesday. Yep, it will be gridlock and a clown show for 2 years, but that's what it was Obama's last 2 years. We'll survive.
 
It's amazing how many JPP members moved their goalposts yesterday morning :)

MAGA posters spent the last six months eagerly anticipating that Democrats would be despondent on November 8. Having six months of anticipation get flushed down the toilet in one afternoon was hard for MAGA to accept
 
MAGA posters spent the last six months eagerly anticipating that Democrats would be despondent on November 8. Having six months of anticipation get flushed down the toilet in one afternoon was hard for MAGA to accept

I think what's making them the most furious - they were looking forward to gloating and us being miserable this week. We're all celebrating and it's making their little heads explode :)
 
I think what's making them the most furious - they were looking forward to gloating and us being miserable this week. We're all celebrating and it's making their little heads explode :)

Personally , I'm relieved that this is probably the beginning of the end for Trump.
 
What do you think he'll announce next week? He's going to make some "big announcement" on 11/15.
That he knows something about DeSantis.
No, wait. He already did that.
He'll reveal what he knows about DeSantis that nobody else knows except his wife.
What a dick. 8th graders are more mature than that.
 
It wasn't just Fox that was making that shitty prediction; The Hill, 538, CNN, The National Review...they all got it wrong because of the polling and the lazy historical precedent.

Historical precedent didn't play into this election at all, since the #1 issue for most voters was either abortion or democracy, not the economy and not punishing the President.

Biden wasn't even an issue in this election. His name barely came up. Trump's name came up more.

Historical precedent predicted correctly. It eliminates those subjective evaluations like the president's approval rating, a "referendum on Biden," abortion, democracy, inflation, or any of those other factors that everybody interprets differently.

If something is a well-established precedent it eliminates all those predictions by people who are convinced their side will win big.
 
But there was no world in which you thought the loss would be this small...or even no loss at all, because we still need to count all the votes.

So I'm not sure why you are even running your mouth about this before all the votes have been counted.

Didn't you learn that lesson two years ago, or have you had your head up your ass this entire time?

You would know that is not true if you actually read my posts rather than making up lies about things I never said. I said several times I thought the Democratic loss would be in the 20's. That is lower than the average loss of 27 seats in the first midterm. I said the Senate was too close for a rational opinion.
 
Historical precedent predicted correctly.

Sure, if you're going to lower the bar to the floor because you don't want to drill into the specifics of this election.

And how do you know that the shift in seats was truly historical precedent and not an effect of gerrymandering? Because losing seats to gerrymandering is a lot different than losing seats due to historical precedent.

The only way we will be able to tell for sure is only after all the votes are counted; but I suspect that the aggregate vote margin will again favor the Democrats by millions of votes, just like it did in 2018 and 2020, which means it wasn't historical precedent that flipped those seats, it was gerrymandering.

I bet you never even thought of that because of your habitually lazy nature.

You always, ALWAYS do this...you always go to the lowest common denominator in your arguments because you're a lazy person by nature and someone who thinks he's entitled to his own version of reality because no one in your entire fucking pathetic life has ever challenged you to be a better version of the putrid, garbage, and pompous ass that you show to everyone here every fucking day as you sniff your own farts.
 
You would know that is not true if you actually read my posts rather than making up lies about things I never said. I said several times I thought the Democratic loss would be in the 20's. That is lower than the average loss of 27 seats in the first midterm. I said the Senate was too close for a rational opinion.

What led you to this conclusion? "historical precedent"...which is just a nicer way of saying that you're too fucking lazy to do the work necessary to understanding this particular midterm dynamic.

Because you are trying to credit the loss of seats to some "historical precedent against the sitting President" when the loss of seats was clearly due to partisan gerrymandering since the aggregate vote total will once again show Democrats won by a wide margin for the third consecutive election.
 
Sure, if you're going to lower the bar to the floor because you don't want to drill into the specifics of this election.

And how do you know that the shift in seats was truly historical precedent and not an effect of gerrymandering? Because losing seats to gerrymandering is a lot different than losing seats due to historical precedent.

The only way we will be able to tell for sure is only after all the votes are counted, because I suspect that the aggregate vote margin will again favor the Democrats by millions of votes, just like it did in 2018 and 2020.

The only bar was that the president's party would lose seats. You always bring up trivia unrelated to the issue to divert from the main point. It doesn't matter whether the loss was due to gerrymandering or those other factors because they are too varied to ever reliably predict anything.

The aggregate vote count is irrelevant to the main point, but let's look at the aggregate vote count:

Democrats: 45,846,105 (46.4%)
Republicans: 51,415,367 (52.1%)

No doubt you will argue with this because I didn't include their hair color.
 
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