With Strife, Republicans Induced Their Own Poor Showing

[martin]

This point is presented elsewhere in the forum. Giving it a separate thread. It is time to calm down.

George Will's conservative commentary is usually on the mark even for a liberal and it is again this morning. Older Democrats, he suggests, should think twice before accepting Biden's recommendation that they thank inflation for enabling an 8.7 increase in Social Security payments next year; Republicans should understand that the country never responds well to leaders who make a habit of demonizing political opponents or insists they accept nonsense that has a soothing quality (translate "stolen election"). With strife, Will suggests, Republicans induced their own poor showing.

It could be added that strife is the main, and witless, ingredient of this forum.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ed-wounds/

 

[Flash]

This point is presented elsewhere in the forum. Giving it a separate thread. It is time to calm down.

George Will's conservative commentary is usually on the mark even for a liberal and it is again this morning. Older Democrats, he suggests, should think twice before accepting Biden's recommendation that they thank inflation for enabling an 8.7 increase in Social Security payments next year; Republicans should understand that the country never responds well to leaders who make a habit of demonizing political opponents or insists they accept nonsense that has a soothing quality (translate "stolen election"). With strife, Will suggests, Republicans induced their own poor showing.

It could be added that strife is the main, and witless, ingredient of this forum.

I'm not sure it is a "poor showing." Certainly a lot fewer seats than all the optimistic Republicans predicted, but not the better analysts.

Sabato's Crystal Ball:
-- Our final Senate pick is 51-49 Republican, or a net Republican gain of 1 seat.
-- Our final House pick is 237-198 Republican, or a net Republican gain of 24 seats.
Republicans have won the House and possibly the Senate. I'm sure they will be happy with that result.

 

[martin]

I'm not sure it is a "poor showing." Certainly a lot fewer seats than all the optimistic Republicans predicted, but not the better analysts.

Sabato's Crystal Ball:
-- Our final Senate pick is 51-49 Republican, or a net Republican gain of 1 seat.
-- Our final House pick is 237-198 Republican, or a net Republican gain of 24 seats.
Republicans have won the House and possibly the Senate. I'm sure they will be happy with that result.

Those predictions were made in our current hostile atmosphere Will addressed. Historically, Republicans fared poorer than the out of power party typically does in midterms. It was the expectation they would do as well that fueled the misplaced optimism.

 

[Yakuda]

This point is presented elsewhere in the forum. Giving it a separate thread. It is time to calm down.

George Will's conservative commentary is usually on the mark even for a liberal and it is again this morning. Older Democrats, he suggests, should think twice before accepting Biden's recommendation that they thank inflation for enabling an 8.7 increase in Social Security payments next year; Republicans should understand that the country never responds well to leaders who make a habit of demonizing political opponents or insists they accept nonsense that has a soothing quality (translate "stolen election"). With strife, Will suggests, Republicans induced their own poor showing.

It could be added that strife is the main, and witless, ingredient of this forum.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ed-wounds/

And leftists are it's most ardent proponents

 

[Yakuda]

Those predictions were made in our current hostile atmosphere Will addressed. Historically, Republicans fared poorer than the out of power party typically does in midterms. It was the expectation they would do as well that fueled the misplaced optimism.

What problems do Democrats have that are self induced. I admit I'm excited at the possibility of a leftist engaging in critical self evaluation. I wonder what will shake out?

 

[Cypress]

I think MAGA rubes just thought there was this vast wellspring of hatred and anger towards Biden that would carry them forth on a Red Tsunami.


Because banning school textbooks and flying asylum seekers around the country on private chartered luxury jets aren't really compelling campaign issues to sell your party on nationally

 

[Yakuda]

I think MAGA rubes just thought there was this vast wellspring of hatred and anger towards Biden that would carry them forth on a Red Tsunami.


Because banning school textbooks and flying asylum seekers around the country on private chartered luxury jets aren't really compelling campaign issues to sell your party on nationally

It's enough to drop a house on the witch of the west. That's all that matters

 

[Callinectes]

This point is presented elsewhere in the forum. Giving it a separate thread. It is time to calm down.

George Will's conservative commentary is usually on the mark even for a liberal and it is again this morning. Older Democrats, he suggests, should think twice before accepting Biden's recommendation that they thank inflation for enabling an 8.7 increase in Social Security payments next year; Republicans should understand that the country never responds well to leaders who make a habit of demonizing political opponents or insists they accept nonsense that has a soothing quality (translate "stolen election"). With strife, Will suggests, Republicans induced their own poor showing.

It could be added that strife is the main, and witless, ingredient of this forum.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ed-wounds/

As I suspected. A BIG part of jackasses voting the perpetually stupid ticket is the simple fact that you're a bunch of butthurt twinklepuffs who are all frowny faced because those mean ol' wepubwicans called you bad names. George should hang out on JPP for a while. If it's any consolation, I no longer claim to be an "election denier", I simply believe that the blue half of the American electorate is a bunch of petulant morons.

 

[Cypress]

It's enough to drop a house on the witch of the west.

That's all that matters

Nope, you made explicitly clear that what you were looking forward to the most was Democrats screaming and crying about a massive Red Tsunami.

Which is exactly what did not happen.

It was the best midterm election performance by an incumbent party in two decades

 

[Yakuda]

Nope, you made explicitly clear that what you were looking forward to the most was Democrats screaming and crying about a massive Red Tsunami.

Which is exactly what did not happen.

It was the best midterm election performance by an incumbent party in two decades

Right it didn't happen but what matters is getting rid of the witch. She's dead. Yeah!

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Liberals and progressives shouldn't be in a hurry to celebrate too much.

Yes, we thankfully avoided the huge red wave, but we still lost enough seats to totally fuck up the government even beyond where it's fucked up now.
Neither ideology will get any legislation passed for the next two years.
No incredibly destructive republican legislation.
No helpful Democratic legislation either.

Due to the assholes Manchin and Sinema, Biden couldn't pack the SCOTUS while he had the chance,
and now we'll have the current group of six fucking idiots on the court letting the red state legislatures do anything they want.

 

[Cypress]

Right it didn't happen but what matters is getting rid of the witch. She's dead. Yeah!

Most people have expected the GOP to win the House for the past two years.

House Republicans can conduct all the fishing expeditions they want; they don't have the power to indict anyone. They would have to politely ask the Biden Justice Department to indict someone.

The power of the Congressional subpoena is limited. Your hero Trump set the precedent that the Executive branch can just ignore congressional subpoenas.

First term presidents always enact there domestic agenda in the first two years, which is what Biden did. The last two years are focused on foreign affairs and Executive governance. Biden doesn't need House Republicans for that.

 

[LV426]

I'm not sure it is a "poor showing." Certainly a lot fewer seats than all the optimistic Republicans predicted, but not the better analysts.

Sabato's Crystal Ball:
-- Our final Senate pick is 51-49 Republican, or a net Republican gain of 1 seat.
-- Our final House pick is 237-198 Republican, or a net Republican gain of 24 seats.
Republicans have won the House and possibly the Senate. I'm sure they will be happy with that result.

Pervert Republicans have not won the House yet; there are still plenty of votes to count there and most of them are mail votes which are heavily Democratic.

They have definitely not won the Senate either, and in fact appear poised to possibly LOSE a net seat, depending on how the GA runoff goes.

 

[Yakuda]

Most people have expected the GOP to win the House for the past two years.

House Republicans can conduct all the fishing expeditions they want; they don't have the power to indict anyone. They would have to politely ask the Biden Justice Department to indict someone.

The power of the Congressional subpoena is limited. Your hero Trump set the precedent that the Executive branch can just ignore congressional subpoenas.

First term presidents always enact there domestic agenda in the first two years, which is what Biden did. The last two years are focused on foreign affairs and Executive governance. Biden doesn't need House Republicans for that.

Again as long as the witch is dead all is good. We would have hoped for more but the first step was to ditch the witch

 

[LV426]

Most people have expected the GOP to win the House for the past two years.

House Republicans can conduct all the fishing expeditions they want; they don't have the power to indict anyone. They would have to politely ask the Biden Justice Department to indict someone.

The power of the Congressional subpoena is limited. Your hero Trump set the precedent that the Executive branch can just ignore congressional subpoenas.

First term presidents always enact there domestic agenda in the first two years, which is what Biden did. The last two years are focused on foreign affairs and Executive governance. Biden doesn't need House Republicans for that.

There are still plenty of votes left to count and neither party has been declared the winner of anything yet.

We probably won't get full results until this time next week, and a lot can change between now and then as the vote is counted.

I would much rather be sitting in the D seat than the R one over the next week or two.

 

[Cypress]

There are still plenty of votes left to count and neither party has been declared the winner of anything yet.

We probably won't get full results until this time next week, and a lot can change between now and then as the vote is counted.

I would much rather be sitting in the D seat than the R one over the next week or two.

I would be shocked if Dems held the House. I am expecting modest Republican gains when the dust settles

 

[LV426]

I would be shocked if Dems held the House. I am expecting modest Republican gains when the dust settles

Truly don't know what the end result will be, but it could go either way once all the votes are counted.

But regardless, no red wave at all.

 

[evince]

Even if republicans eek it out


It will soon change due to sitting republicans being indicted for election crimes


The Republican Party is dead

 

[Flash]

Pervert Republicans have not won the House yet; there are still plenty of votes to count there and most of them are mail votes which are heavily Democratic.

They have definitely not won the Senate either, and in fact appear poised to possibly LOSE a net seat, depending on how the GA runoff goes.

That is why I said "possibly" the Senate. While they have not won the House, Republicans have picked up 16 seats vs. 4 for Democrats. Republicans only need 9 seats for reach a majority while Democrats need 26.

So, we are safe with the historical precent that the president's party almost always loses seats in midterms.

Republicans have probably won the House and possibly the Senate.

As the election got closer JPP Republicans let their enthusiasm get the best of them and were announcing a "devastating" red wave and JPP Democrats were talking about keeping the House and maybe even gaining seats. They let optimistic hope overtake their rational reasoning, historical precedent, and scientific polls (not from any candidate or party).

 

[Flash]

Those predictions were made in our current hostile atmosphere Will addressed. Historically, Republicans fared poorer than the out of power party typically does in midterms. It was the expectation they would do as well that fueled the misplaced optimism.

I disagree. If we look at only a president's first midterm election as this is Biden's first midterm from 1954 we find:

Average Republican seats lost (House + Senate): -21
Average Democratic seats lost (House + Senate): -37

Clinton and Obama are responsible for the big difference.