Will this time be allowed to be taught as history?

[Nordberg]

The fact that Africans were involved in slavery and the slave trade is not hidden. I guess Stone just learned it. They did not have ships, so white people went there and bought them. That is when it became our problem and our fault. It is like the drug trade. If there is money in it, someone will provide. Unlike drugs, we ended slavery. That ended the slave trade for us. We took away the profit, so it ended.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Not only is Evince's take on things closer to the truth than your evaluation of it, TA...Evince's take on things are a hell of a lot closer to the truth than the rubbish I just quoted above.

You MAGA people have got to get your shit together, because right now you are more dangerous to America and its values than all of our foreign enemies put together.

Really, TA. Get your shit together.

You have anything to offer as a counter example? I can post up plenty, even off-the-cuff, that supports my position.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The fact that Africans were involved in slavery and the slave trade is not hidden. I guess Stone just learned it. They did not have ships, so white people went there and bought them. That is when it became our problem and our fault. It is like the drug trade. If there is money in it, someone will provide. Unlike drugs, we ended slavery. That ended the slave trade for us. We took away the profit, so it ended.

Slavery was also not unique to the US in the Americas. The French, British, Spanish, and Portuguese all used it too, often to a greater extent that in the American colonies or nation that followed. The only reason it was practiced was the need for cheap labor exceeded--greatly exceeded--the available supply and there were few or no alternatives to it. Indentured servitude and transport of prisoners was done, but these lacked anywhere close to the volume of warm bodies needed to do cheap labor--mostly agricultural and mining--in the Americas.

 

[ExpressLane]

You have anything to offer as a counter example? I can post up plenty, even off-the-cuff, that supports my position.

You aren't a MAGA supporter are you TA?

 

[Stone]

The fact that Africans were involved in slavery and the slave trade is not hidden. I guess Stone just learned it. They did not have ships, so white people went there and bought them. That is when it became our problem and our fault. It is like the drug trade. If there is money in it, someone will provide. Unlike drugs, we ended slavery. That ended the slave trade for us. We took away the profit, so it ended.

Bullshit. Our involvement in the slave trade by no means absolves what the Africans did to other Africans. It begins THERE.

 

[Stone]

Both Good trees and bad trees have roots. The root of African slavery began IN AFRICA. If they werent selling there would be no buyers.

 

[archives]

Never said Africans invented slavery,.....LIAR. I said Blacks enslaved other blacks and sold them to White people. The butthurt is strong in you.....

And thereby implying Blacks are responsible for their own enslavement, not the fact that it was the profit motive whites introduced that led to millions in chains

 

[evince]

Not what I said at all,.... dont be stupid. But those of us who actually KNOW history refuse to let people leave out black peoples role in slavery. American slavery BEGAN in Africa. Africans made war on their brother Africans. They then enslaved them and sold them to slave traders who then took them to America. THAT is exactly what happened. Teach it,.......or STFU.

But to teach that bit if it we have to teach about slavery


You don’t want that taught remember


Oh and they didn’t sell their brothers


They sold their tribal enemies


What percent were sold by an African and what percent were captured by slavers?

 

[evince]

They say that history is written by the winners.

If the republicans successfully create the culture that they seek, history will be about as literal as the bible that they claim to adore.
This is the reason why I so virulently disrespect a moderate attitude toward liberalism or conservatism.
Moderation is surrender from the perspective of both sides.

The truth isn’t automatically in the center

 

[evince]

Wrong again. Teach it,....but teach it accurately. Leaving out the part about how Africans first became slaves is not only unjust but ignorant. Start the story at the beginning,...NOT AT THE MIDDLE.

What percent were captured and what percent were sold


And I learned about the selling in school


So you are lying about that part

 

[evince]

But its not ancient you uneducated imbecile. Where did we in America get our slaves? We bought them from AFRICAN SLAVE TRADERS who attacked fellow Africans and enslaved them. Why cant you admit what anyone who has actually read history already KNOWS?

Again

What percent were sold and what percent were captured

 

[evince]

Just how the fuck does the fact that they may have been enslaved by blacks excuse those who brought them to this country and treated them like animals? It doesn't. Teaching about slavery in this country has nothing to fucking to do with where they came from.

And he is pretending ALL were sold


He’s lying

 

[evince]

Not at all fucktard. If we want to teach history teach the TRUE history. I have no idea how anyone could disagree with that.

But you are lying about them all being sold asshole

 

[evince]

It's one of the strangest defenses for American slavery I've seen.

It's like people trying to excuse the Holocaust by citing a previous genocide.

And he forgets it’s his team that merely wants it not to be taught

 

[evince]

NEVER said it did. Just saying we need to teach TRUE history,....not pick up the story right after they got here. Thats absurd.

What percent were captured you fucking liar

 

[evince]

Didnt say it did. Just teach the true history.

But your dude doesn’t want it taught idiot

 

[evince]

If you are teaching American history you don't start with Egypt. Not to mention that every american history class teaching about slavery is going to tell you how they got here, you must have missed that part. Just what difference does it make what the color of the fucking people were that rounded them up? Sure they were just as guilty as those transporting them is that supposed to be an excuse for slavery in this country?

They were not all sold to the white people by tribal enemies


I was taught that Part in school


He’s just lying about everything

 

[evince]

The real reason that this topic is treated the way it is............Black Shame.

Story 1......A bunch of white guys went to Africa, kicked African ass, and made slaves of them.

Story 2...one African Tribe kicked the ass of the weaker tribe and made slaves of them.

If we are honest neither version is very palatable to the slave descendants. Im sorry,....thats what happened. Story 2. Get over it and deal with it. We cant suppress history just because it makes some feel butthurt. Grow up....

All of that Is taught idiot


So where is your real complaint?

 

[evince]

They got here because blacks enslaved and sold other blacks to the boat captains. Sorry if the truth makes you butthurt. Cry to someone else. Most people could give a fuck less.

That is taught you lying shit sack

 

[evince]

No,...it was ALL of us. Grow up, read history,...then come back. Have a nice day.....

Your side doesn’t want any of it taught remember