Why We Must Raise Taxes on the Rich

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Why We Must Raise Taxes on the Rich
Wednesday 6 April 2011
by: Robert Reich

Its tax time. Its also a time when right-wing Republicans are setting the agenda for massive spending cuts that will hurt most Americans.

Heres the truth: The only way America can reduce the long-term budget deficit, maintain vital services, protect Social Security and Medicare, invest more in education and infrastructure, and not raise taxes on the working middle class is by raising taxes on the super rich.

Even if we got rid of corporate welfare subsidies for big oil, big agriculture, and big Pharma even if we cut back on our bloated defense budget it wouldnt be nearly enough.

The vast majority of Americans cant afford to pay more. Despite an economy thats twice as large as it was thirty years ago, the bottom 90 percent are still stuck in the mud. If theyre employed theyre earning on average only about $280 more a year than thirty years ago, adjusted for inflation. Thats less than a 1 percent gain over more than a third of a century. (Families are doing somewhat better but thats only because so many families now have to rely on two incomes.)

Yet even as their share of the nations total income has withered, the tax burden on the middle has grown. Todays working and middle-class taxpayers are shelling out a bigger chunk of income in payroll taxes, sales taxes, and property taxes than thirty years ago.

Its just the opposite for super rich.

The top 1 percents share of national income has doubled over the past three decades (from 10 percent in 1981 to well over 20 percent now). The richest one-tenth of 1 percents share has tripled. And theyre doing better than ever. According to a new analysis by the Wall Street Journal, total compensation and benefits at publicly-traded Wall Street banks and securities firms hit a record in 2010 $135 billion. Thats up 5.7 percent from 2009.

Yet, remarkably, taxes on the top have plummeted. From the 1940s until 1980, the top tax income tax rate on the highest earners in America was at least 70 percent. In the 1950s, it was 91 percent. Now its 35 percent. Even if you include deductions and credits, the rich are now paying a far lower share of their incomes in taxes than at any time since World War II.

The estate tax (which only hits the top 2 percent) has also been slashed. In 2000 it was 55 percent and kicked in after $1 million. Today its 35 percent and kicks in at $5 million. Capital gains comprising most of the income of the super-rich were taxed at 35 percent in the late 1980s. Theyre now taxed at 15 percent.

If the rich were taxed at the same rates they were half a century ago, theyd be paying in over $350 billion more this year alone, which translates into trillions over the next decade. Thats enough to accomplish everything the nation needs while also reducing future deficits.

If we also cut what we dont need (corporate welfare and bloated defense), taxes could be reduced for everyone earning under $80,000, too. And with a single payer health-care system Medicare for all instead of a gaggle of for-profit providers, the nation could save billions more.

Yes, the rich will find ways to avoid paying more taxes courtesy of clever accountants and tax attorneys. But this has always been the case regardless of where the tax rate is set. Thats why the government should aim high. (During the 1950s, when the top rate was 91 percent, the rich exploited loopholes and deductions that as a practical matter reduced the effective top rate 50 to 60 percent still substantial by todays standards.)

And yes, some of the super rich will move their money to the Cayman Islands and other tax shelters. But paying taxes is a central obligation of citizenship, and those who take their money abroad in an effort to avoid paying American taxes should lose their American citizenship.

But dont the super-rich have enough political power to kill any attempt to get them to pay their fair share? Only if we let them. Heres the issue around which Progressives, populists on the right and left, unionized workers, and all other working people who are just plain fed up ought to be able to unite.

Besides, the reason we have a Democrat in the White House indeed, the reason we have a Democratic Party at all is to try to rebalance the economy exactly this way.

All the President has to do is connect the dots the explosion of income and wealth among Americas super-rich, the dramatic drop in their tax rates, the consequential devastating budget squeezes in Washington and in state capitals, and the slashing of vital public services for the middle class and the poor.

This shouldnt be difficult. Most Americans are on the receiving end. By now they know trickle-down economics is a lie. And they sense the dice are loaded in favor of the multi-millionaires and billionaires, and their corporations, now paying a relative pittance in taxes.

The President has the bully pulpit. But will he use it?

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i have no problem raising taxes on those making over a million dollars a year....interestingly, what i have found (among the small group of people, very small, i know who make over that) is that they don't mind....they are so wealthy, they don't see the increase in taxes (back to clinton or something like that) as a burden. in fact, warren buffet and i believe about 40 other billionaires or millionaires, support raising taxes on the wealthy. pubs messed up big time by trying to protect tax cuts on those making over a million dollars, its stupid to "protect" that income when they are making that much money.
 
i have no problem raising taxes on those making over a million dollars a year....interestingly, what i have found (among the small group of people, very small, i know who make over that) is that they don't mind....they are so wealthy, they don't see the increase in taxes (back to clinton or something like that) as a burden. in fact, warren buffet and i believe about 40 other billionaires or millionaires, support raising taxes on the wealthy. pubs messed up big time by trying to protect tax cuts on those making over a million dollars, its stupid to "protect" that income when they are making that much money.
Then you don't understand living by and sticking to your principles do you ?

Taxing anyone because of what they make is wrong in principle.......its unfair....one rate for everyone is relatively fair... rich and poor alike....a flat tax...
 
We will have to raise taxes, at least on a temporary basis, but the notion that raising taxes is a stand-alone solution to the budget deficit is ludicrous. Furthermore, raising tax rates back up to 91% would not generate $350 billion in revenue. It would destroy jobs, companies would close their doors, and revenues would plummet.

Kenneth isn't the brightest bulb in the box, that is for certain.
 
Clearly we just haven't spent enough. I know that when my bank account is in the negative, spending more is mandatory. It's the only way I can increase revenues. Don't ask me how.
 
I love it when people who are not rich defend tax cuts for the rich because they fear the rich will take their toys and leave. Thing is, when you look at outsourcing, downsizing, tax breaks....they already have left, in a fashion.

If you return the taxes to Clinton era, the rich will still be rich and more revenue will be added to the country's coffers.
 
i have no problem raising taxes on those making over a million dollars a year....interestingly, what i have found (among the small group of people, very small, i know who make over that) is that they don't mind....they are so wealthy, they don't see the increase in taxes (back to clinton or something like that) as a burden. in fact, warren buffet and i believe about 40 other billionaires or millionaires, support raising taxes on the wealthy. pubs messed up big time by trying to protect tax cuts on those making over a million dollars, its stupid to "protect" that income when they are making that much money.

Again-a million dollars in revenue is relative to how you made that million. If you are a company YOU NEED REVENUES in order to grow...hire people expand your company and prosper! All that is accomplished by graduated tax systems is people looking to hide assets. The clearest; fairest; and most productive tax system would be a flat tax on corporations of about 25% and close their loopholes thereby avoiding the debacle as we saw with GE. Then for all persons under 350k 15% also close all loopholes for discretionary write offs i.e.-devaluations of equipment etc. Of course everyone would have to give up their partisan polemics (translation blocks of guaranteed voters) and actually demand congress do it.
 
Great Idea!

Raise Taxes on the Rich.

Then they can raise the price of things that I buy.

This,,,,,,,, "Raise Taxes on the Rich" has gotten old.

What you really mean to say is, "make poor people pay more, & be more poor".

Make gas go up for the poor, because those bad old oil companies aren't taxed enough,,,,,, "by making the price of gas go up".

Man,,,, the poor have to really love higher food prices, and other things they get to choose from.

All because the rich are getting away with not paying their fair share. (of taxes)

WOW!!!

Great idea,,,, Try to make sense of making the cost of living go up.

For the poor.

And the less wealthy (every pay check) middle class.
 
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i have no problem raising taxes on those making over a million dollars a year....interestingly, what i have found (among the small group of people, very small, i know who make over that) is that they don't mind....they are so wealthy, they don't see the increase in taxes (back to clinton or something like that) as a burden. in fact, warren buffet and i believe about 40 other billionaires or millionaires, support raising taxes on the wealthy. pubs messed up big time by trying to protect tax cuts on those making over a million dollars, its stupid to "protect" that income when they are making that much money.

Why is $1 million your standard for who should have their earnings confiscated more? If someone makes $1 less than a million, it's okay for them to get to keep more of their earnings? What if it's an individual filing as a small business, and although he has an income of over $1 mil, he also has business expenses which have to come out of his income... do you tax him at the higher rate too?

Yurt, Republicans didn't mess up, YOU are messed up! You've bought into the Socialist meme that rich people need to have more of their money taken away and redistributed to those who don't have as much. You view someone who makes $1 million in a year, as being "rich" or "wealthy" and it doesn't matter what expenses they might have, or what their personal situation is, this is a prejudice you have applied to them, based on the information that they earned $1 million, and to you, that is a lot of money.

Let me tell you what would happen, the second it becomes law, that persons earning over $1 mil a year have to pay a higher tax... every person in America who has a salary of $1 mil a year, will have a salary reduction of $1, so they no longer make $1 mil a year, they make $999,999.00. For people who make more than $1 mil, their company will reduce their earned income to $999,999... then offset the difference with tax-deferred dividends. Most people have no problem living on $999k per year, so it's no problem. End result, you didn't raise any more tax revenue, the rich people outsmarted you, which is why they are rich and you're not.
 
You want to generate more revenues by raising taxes? Raise the taxes on the middle class and poor! Those are people who have no other choice but to pay the tax, they aren't rich, so they can't NOT work... they have to work! Rich people simply do not need to earn incomes, they already have wealth, the incomes they earn are purely a luxury to them, they can live without them.
 
You want to generate more revenues by raising taxes? Raise the taxes on the middle class and poor! Those are people who have no other choice but to pay the tax, they aren't rich, so they can't NOT work... they have to work! Rich people simply do not need to earn incomes, they already have wealth, the incomes they earn are purely a luxury to them, they can live without them.

You're right.
 
$1 million/year is well off, but not necessarily rich, especially if they are a small business (e.g. s corp) owner who employs others. I'd prefer to create an entirely new bracket for multimillionaires, such as 45% on >$20 million, provided that ALL of the revenue generated from this tax increase is put toward the national debt. That would have to be a legal requirement. Otherwise, I have no doubt whatsoever the libbies will simply take that money and blow it on a wasteful, counterproductive government program. It is guaranteed.
 
$1 million/year is well off, but not necessarily rich, especially if they are a small business (e.g. s corp) owner who employs others. I'd prefer to create an entirely new bracket for multimillionaires, such as 45% on >$20 million, provided that ALL of the revenue generated from this tax increase is put toward the national debt. That would have to be a legal requirement. Otherwise, I have no doubt whatsoever the libbies will simply take that money and blow it on a wasteful, counterproductive government program. It is guaranteed.

A-GAIN.... What do you suppose some entrepreneurial "rich" person is going to do, if you raise tax on their income to 45% ???? Do you just think they are going to be STUPID and let you take nearly half of what they earned? I sure don't, I wouldn't! A-GAIN.... Rich people do not need to earn an income! There are plenty of other things rich folk can do, besides earning an income, and if you tax it at 45%, they will simply stop doing it. You can't tax what isn't earned income... You can't tax the wealth they already own! They have enough money to live comfortably the rest of their lives and never earn another dime of income, is that what you WANT them to do? I don't... I want them to turn lose of the money and invest in new business, but they aren't going to do that if you implement a 45% tax on what they earn... it would be STUPID to do that. So, it's up to you..... be STUPID or be SMART! I choose to be SMART.
 
A-GAIN.... What do you suppose some entrepreneurial "rich" person is going to do, if you raise tax on their income to 45% ???? Do you just think they are going to be STUPID and let you take nearly half of what they earned? I sure don't, I wouldn't! A-GAIN.... Rich people do not need to earn an income! There are plenty of other things rich folk can do, besides earning an income, and if you tax it at 45%, they will simply stop doing it. You can't tax what isn't earned income... You can't tax the wealth they already own! They have enough money to live comfortably the rest of their lives and never earn another dime of income, is that what you WANT them to do? I don't... I want them to turn lose of the money and invest in new business, but they aren't going to do that if you implement a 45% tax on what they earn... it would be STUPID to do that. So, it's up to you..... be STUPID or be SMART! I choose to be SMART.

And yet historically speaking tax increases have worked, e.g. when Bush Sr. and Clinton raised taxes, both of which contributed to balancing the budget in '98. If you think tax hikes never increase revenue, well, I don't know what to say. By that logic we should drop taxes to 0.05% and the deficit will disappear.
 
$1 million/year is well off, but not necessarily rich, especially if they are a small business (e.g. s corp) owner who employs others. I'd prefer to create an entirely new bracket for multimillionaires, such as 45% on >$20 million, provided that ALL of the revenue generated from this tax increase is put toward the national debt. That would have to be a legal requirement. Otherwise, I have no doubt whatsoever the libbies will simply take that money and blow it on a wasteful, counterproductive government program. It is guaranteed.

Voltaire, Dixies correct on this one.

We need to open up more opportunities for people, and not focus on raising taxes on anyone.
 
And yet historically speaking tax increases have worked, e.g. when Bush Sr. and Clinton raised taxes, both of which contributed to balancing the budget in '98. If you think tax hikes never increase revenue, well, I don't know what to say. By that logic we should drop taxes to 0.05% and the deficit will disappear.

Taxes raised on the middle class will always generate more revenue, because the middle class have no choice but to pay it and keep earning income. That's the only place a substantial increase in revenues can be realized. If you want to be ridiculous and simple-minded, you can argue that logic says we should lower taxes to .05%.... but that isn't what I stated, nor how it works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve

In economics, the Laffer curve is a theoretical representation of the relationship between government revenue raised by taxation and all possible rates of taxation. It is used to illustrate the concept of taxable income elasticity (that taxable income will change in response to changes in the rate of taxation). The curve is constructed by thought experiment. First, the amount of tax revenue raised at the extreme tax rates of 0% and 100% is considered. It is clear that a 0% tax rate raises no revenue, but the Laffer curve hypothesis is that a 100% tax rate will also generate no revenue because at such a rate there is no longer any incentive for a rational taxpayer to earn any income, thus the revenue raised will be 100% of nothing. If both a 0% rate and 100% rate of taxation generate no revenue, it follows that there must exist at least one rate in between where tax revenue would be a maximum.
 
Taxes raised on the middle class will always generate more revenue, because the middle class have no choice but to pay it and keep earning income. That's the only place a substantial increase in revenues can be realized. If you want to be ridiculous and simple-minded, you can argue that logic says we should lower taxes to .05%.... but that isn't what I stated, nor how it works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve

In economics, the Laffer curve is a theoretical representation of the relationship between government revenue raised by taxation and all possible rates of taxation. It is used to illustrate the concept of taxable income elasticity (that taxable income will change in response to changes in the rate of taxation). The curve is constructed by thought experiment. First, the amount of tax revenue raised at the extreme tax rates of 0% and 100% is considered. It is clear that a 0% tax rate raises no revenue, but the Laffer curve hypothesis is that a 100% tax rate will also generate no revenue because at such a rate there is no longer any incentive for a rational taxpayer to earn any income, thus the revenue raised will be 100% of nothing. If both a 0% rate and 100% rate of taxation generate no revenue, it follows that there must exist at least one rate in between where tax revenue would be a maximum.

I am familiar with the Laffer curve. Obviously you are not. If you were, you would realize that most economists estimate the threshold to be around 55%, or even as high as 70%.
 
I am familiar with the Laffer curve. Obviously you are not. If you were, you would realize that most economists estimate the threshold to be around 55%, or even as high as 70%.


Uhm, no they don't. Not unless they are insane economists on crack.

And obviously, you weren't familiar with the Laffer Curve or you wouldn't have made the smart ass comment about lowering taxes to .05%
 
Then you don't understand living by and sticking to your principles do you ?

Taxing anyone because of what they make is wrong in principle.......its unfair....one rate for everyone is relatively fair... rich and poor alike....a flat tax...
You're so fucking clueless and apparently as incapable of doing math as Dixie. What is fair is if an income group controls 20% of the wealth then they should pay 20% of the taxes. That is why progressive taxation is the only fair form of taxation and flat taxes are regressive and inherently unfair and shift the burden of taxation from the wealthy, who control the majority of revenue, to the professional and middle classes who control a minority of revenue. Now it is certainly true that progressive taxation can be taken to far. If an income group controls 50% of the wealth and are paying 75% of the taxes then that to is unfair but that does not change the fact that progressive taxation is the only fair form of taxation and if you can't see that then you're either a dupe for the wealthy, a partisan hack or incapable of doing math.

The OP is essentially correct. We currently have a system of taxation that is aggravating income disparities in this nation. Those who control 75% of the wealth are paying about 60% of the taxes and while their incomes continue to grow, the majority has stagnated and has seen little growth in 30 years! Add to that, the wealthy wish to substantially slash social services which benefit the middle and working classes while fighting any reduction in programs, such as military spending, which benefit them.

It's unfair, lopsided and unsustainable and will eventually lead to both political and social destabilization in our nation as eventually the majority of Americans will start to fight for their fair share of the economic pie.
 
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